“one man with a gun can control 100” - Vladimir Lenin

[as seen on tv]

Information is scant. Here’s what we do know

• White, age 64
  
• No known terrorism ties or military service
  
  
• Lived in a retirement community
  
  
• Only publicly revealed photo shows him on barstool, shitfaced
  
  
• “Known to local authorities” but no arrest record.
  
  
• Accomplice “Marilou Danley” appears to be Filipina hobbit (update - she was apparently a vegas dealer who fell on hard times as her looks faded).
  

I watched (and heard) the crowd supplied videotapes on TV. Definitely a fully automatic weapon, which is illegal for everyone. Which means it was stolen, or Padddock used internet parts to turn a semi into a fully automatic weapon.


In any case, fully automatic weapons are fully illegal, and I’m fully okay with that.

This will undoubtedly renew calls by the fully ignorant to ban handguns, shotguns used for geese, deer rifles, crossbows, etc. Any excuse to politicize a tragedy.

Here’s my contribution to the politicization of the latest gun tragedy

• More concealed carry permits probably wouldn’t have helped in this case. Paddock was firing from across the street, 30 stories up (300 feet). I still support wider issuance of concealed carry to responsible citizens, though.
  
  
• Law enforcement authorities have been praised. But they took 10 minutes to figure out where the gunfire was coming from. And all we know is “Paddock is now dead”. I will withhold judgment on police efficiency until I find out if Paddock shot himself, or if the police put an end to this.
  
  
• Better than even money that a post mortem will reveal narcotics in Paddock’s blood. If he was simply drunk, he wouldn’t have been able to reload so rapidly.
  
  
• We’re also going to find that he was a “regular” at some sort of shooting range.
• How do you carry that much ammo to a hotel room? Did Paddock put it in a trunk, and have a bellhop help deliver it?

 

[Deleted member 21794]

I would only clarify that certain gun dealers can own automatic weapons. I have read the process is difficult and there are relatively few of them.

However, for all intents and purposes, automatic weapons are illegal.

The solution is simple: make them really, really illegal. Problem solved.

 

[freyasman]

I would only clarify that certain gun dealers can own automatic weapons. I have read the process is difficult and there are relatively few of them.

However, for all intents and purposes, automatic weapons are illegal.

The solution is simple: make them really, really illegal. Problem solved.

No. Freedom ain't safe, and it ain't ever going to be.

 

[as seen on tv]

I would only clarify that certain gun dealers can own automatic weapons. I have read the process is difficult and there are relatively few of them.

However, for all intents and purposes, automatic weapons are illegal.

The solution is simple: make them really, really illegal. Problem solved.

I'm okay with making (keeping) all of the following illegal for private citizens:

• fully automatic weapons
• mortars
• hand grenades
• land mines
• RPGs
• shoulder fired surface to air missiles
• tanks
• artillery
• armed aircraft (helicopters, fixed wing)
• ownership of radioactive waste
• germ warfare materials
• mustard gas
• nerve gas
• flamethrowers
• napalm

 

[as seen on tv]

No. Freedom ain't safe, and it ain't ever going to be.

at the end of the day, we're likely to find out:

• paddock DID have a military recordd after all
• he was a power drinker/addict of some sort
• charges were dropped in at least one previous crime, because he intimidated witnesses
• some relative is going to come forward and say "I tried to warn the police 2 years ago"

 

[middleview]

I'm okay with making (keeping) all of the following illegal for private citizens:

• fully automatic weapons
• mortars
• hand grenades
• land mines
• RPGs
• shoulder fired surface to air missiles
• tanks
• artillery
• armed aircraft (helicopters, fixed wing)
• ownership of radioactive waste
• germ warfare materials
• mustard gas
• nerve gas
• flamethrowers
• napalm

I think it easier to simply make a list of those non-military weapons that make sense to own for self defense, sport or hunting. Manufacturers could simply apply for the appropriate approvals to put a new weapon into circulation.

That is the easy part. The hard part is the weapons already in private hands. Would you advocate confiscation? I'm not so sure that would be acceptable. We could try a buyback program. What about guns that are easily convertible to full auto? How about conversion kits or bumpfire devices? I don't know the perfect solution. I'm just bringing up the fact that they exist and wondering if someone else has an idea.

 

[as seen on tv]

I think it easier to simply make a list of those non-military weapons that make sense to own for self defense, sport or hunting. Manufacturers could simply apply for the appropriate approvals to put a new weapon into circulation.

That is the easy part. The hard part is the weapons already in private hands. Would you advocate confiscation? I'm not so sure that would be acceptable. We could try a buyback program. What about guns that are easily convertible to full auto? How about conversion kits or bumpfire devices? I don't know the perfect solution. I'm just bringing up the fact that they exist and wondering if someone else has an idea.

I do, in fact, advocate confiscation.

this is how alcohol was handled during prohibition.

 

[middleview]

I do, in fact, advocate confiscation.

this is how alcohol was handled during prohibition.

That didn't work at all.