Only old people die of COVID?

[Bugsy McGurk]

Here’s a story about a boy approaching his 5th birthday who lost both parents to COVID. His mother was 29 and his father was 33.

A touch of sad reality....

A boy lost both parents to Covid-19. His family asks Texas community for help celebrating his 5th birthday

At just 4 years old, Raiden Gonzalez has lost both his parents. Coronavirus stole their lives four months apart, leaving Raiden with only a few years' worth of memories to cherish for a lifetime.

www.cnn.com

 

[Angus Young]

I don't know of anyone who says only old people die of COVID. However, the data clearly shows that the risk of death by COVID grows exponentially with age.

Data Visualization | COVID-19 Deaths by Age | The Heritage Foundation

According to data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, COVID-19 is deadliest among older populations. CDC data also show that Americans, regardless of age group, are far more likely to die of something other than COVID-19. From @HeritageDataViz

www.heritage.org

Cases, Data, and Surveillance

Cases, data, and surveillance to track and analyze COVID-19.

www.cdc.gov

In fact, deaths in the 65-74 age group dwarf all deaths of people ages 0-34 by 21.8 times.

Perspective. Do you have information on the parents' age, so that we can offer more targeted perspective?

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

I don't know of anyone who says only old people die of COVID. However, the data clearly shows that the risk of death by COVID grows exponentially with age.

Data Visualization | COVID-19 Deaths by Age | The Heritage Foundation

According to data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, COVID-19 is deadliest among older populations. CDC data also show that Americans, regardless of age group, are far more likely to die of something other than COVID-19. From @HeritageDataViz

www.heritage.org

Cases, Data, and Surveillance

Cases, data, and surveillance to track and analyze COVID-19.

www.cdc.gov

Even in just the next highest age group, deaths are more than 10 times higher than the age group of the case you just cited.

In fact, deaths in the 65-74 age group dwarf all deaths of people ages 0-34 by 21.8 times.

Perspective.

Excellent. Perhaps we can end the drivel about “vulnerable people just protecting themselves.” Everyone is vulnerable. So just be honest and admit you are willing to trade lives for an absence of things like mandatory mask laws and restrictions on economic activity.

The “pro life” approach, no?

 

[Angus Young]

Excellent. Perhaps we can end the drivel about “vulnerable people just protecting themselves.” Everyone is vulnerable. So just be honest and admit you are willing to trade lives for an absence of things like mandatory mask laws and restrictions on economic activity.

The “pro life” approach, no?

Why yes, of course we trade lives for the freedom and convenience of others- every single day.

Oh and I have some good news! I read your article more thoroughly. The kid's parents were both in the 25-34 age group, which constitutes 0.71% of total COVID deaths.

Now, as to your "vulnerable people just protecting themselves". Who said that? And specifically, how does relate to or contribute to honest debate and discussion?

Oh and for bonus points.... tell me about these mandatory mask laws? And whose economic activity should we be limiting? And why?

 

[RickWA]

Excellent. Perhaps we can end the drivel about “vulnerable people just protecting themselves.” Everyone is vulnerable. So just be honest and admit you are willing to trade lives for an absence of things like mandatory mask laws and restrictions on economic activity.

The “pro life” approach, no?

That’s NOT how public health policy is made. The statistical remarkably low risk to people under 50 is staggering. That this statistic is not “zero” is a pathetically dishonest and flatly non-compelling argument to make for shutdowns - or any larger policy. I could point you to the fact that this holds for all disease and associated policy, but what point would that serve?

Pathetic.

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

Why yes, of course we trade lives for the freedom and convenience of others- every single day.

Oh and I have some good news! I read your article more thoroughly. The kid's parents were both in the 25-34 age group, which constitutes 0.71% of total COVID deaths.

Now, as to your "vulnerable people just protecting themselves". Who said that? And specifically, how does relate to or contribute to honest debate and discussion?

Oh and for bonus points.... tell me about these mandatory mask laws? And whose economic activity should we be limiting? And why?

Enjoy your rabbit holes. I won’t be joining you.

I just wanted to dispel that notion that “vulnerable people can just protect themselves.” Everyone is vulnerable. I graciously accept your concession on the point.

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

That’s NOT how public health policy is made. The statistical remarkably low risk to people under 50 is staggering. That this statistic is not “zero” is a pathetically dishonest and flatly non-compelling argument to make for shutdowns - or any larger policy. I could point you to the fact that this holds for all disease and associated policy, but what point would that serve?

Pathetic.

Maybe we can get someone to read your tirade to the five year old boy who lost both parents to COVID. That should make him feel better, no?

 

[Angus Young]

Enjoy your rabbit holes. I won’t be joining you.

I just wanted to dispel that notion that “vulnerable people can just protect themselves.” Everyone is vulnerable. I graciously accept your concession on the point.

Yes, anecdotes can be very fun. That is the only thing I concede.

 

[Angus Young]

Maybe we can get someone to read your tirade to the five year old boy who lost both parents to COVID. That should make him feel better, no?

Decisions made based on emotion are often not wise decisions. True or false?

 

[PhilFish]

Decisions made based on emotion are often not wise decisions. True or false?

As are these unwarranted attacks on your person...

 

[RickWA]

Maybe we can get someone to read your tirade to the five year old boy who lost both parents to COVID. That should make him feel better, no?

Yes - and maybe we can shut down everything everywhere every time based on non-zero risk factors...right, honest, science-following poster?

Good grief. What a hack.

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

Yes, anecdotes can be very fun. That is the only thing I concede.

Such news accounts are “anecdotes”? Lies, perhaps?

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

Decisions made based on emotion are often not wise decisions. True or false?

False. We are all guided by emotions. Always. The only thing that varies is the emotion that controls the outcome of one’s decision-making process.

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

Yes - and maybe we can shut down everything everywhere every time based on non-zero risk factors...right, honest, science-following poster?

Good grief. What a hack.

Who said that? Let’s gang up on him.

;-)

 

[RickWA]

Who said that? Let’s gang up on him.

;-)

You infer it with each [underachieing...yet subsidized] post. Awful stuff.

Have a swell day.

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

You infer it with each [underachieing...yet subsidized] post. Awful stuff.

Have a swell day.

Oh, you claim I “infer” something I did not say.

Perhaps you should ask people what they think instead of just concocting things. Try to be honest. Just try.

 

[middleview]

You infer it with each [underachieing...yet subsidized] post. Awful stuff.

Have a swell day.

Losing to another professional poster again, Rick?

 

[middleview]

Oh, you claim I “infer” something I did not say.

Perhaps you should ask people what they think instead of just concocting things. Try to be honest. Just try.

Honesty from him? Good luck with that.

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

Honesty from him? Good luck with that.

Hope springs eternal.

;-)

 

[TBLee]

Enjoy your rabbit holes. I won’t be joining you.

I just wanted to dispel that notion that “vulnerable people can just protect themselves.” Everyone is vulnerable. I graciously accept your concession on the point.

FFS Bugs, man up and answer the questions.