PC child abuse.

[resident_evil]

This is the greater cause of devaluation of human life than the mere presence of guns and why we have active shooters acting out in our society. We've always had guns what is new is this shit:

What is also true is that a great number of people who play these games smoke pot and are on psychotropic drugs both prescribed and stolen.

You can go to youtube and watch the endless stream of bizarrely narcissistic posting of FSP (first person shooter) videos. These are the children raised by liberal values. Computer hardware is specifically made to facilitate the sharing of game play by recording it in stream.

 

[marvin martian]

Like all media depictions of violence, this is a parenting issue. Parents need to know what their kids are seeing, hearing and doing online and on all their electronic devices. If a parent neglects this obligation, they are at fault, period.

 

[Figjam]

...so only "liberals" play violent video games and use drugs. Interesting.

...video games is the new version of cowboys and indians or combat both of which I played using toy guns or later on bb-guns (which looking back was a really bad idea). Nevertheless, none of those activities made me want to go out and actually kill anyone. Somehow I doubt video games have a different effect.

...drugs, that is another issue and one I cannot comment on...

 

[resident_evil]

Like all media depictions of violence, this is a parenting issue. Parents need to know what their kids are seeing, hearing and doing online and on all their electronic devices. If a parent neglects this obligation, they are at fault, period.

Society as a whole bears some responsibility to the wider environment children are raised in. Never more than now has technology been better able to assist parents to filter crap out of their children's lives without resorting to the "censorship" the debauched "adult" elements of our society object to.

 

[resident_evil]

...so only "liberals" play violent video games and use drugs. Interesting.

...video games is the new version of cowboys and indians or combat both of which I played using toy guns or later on bb-guns (which looking back was a really bad idea). Nevertheless, none of those activities made me want to go out and actually kill anyone. Somehow I doubt video games have a different effect.

...drugs, that is another issue and one I cannot comment on...

Pay attention - liberal values.

 

[as seen on tv]

the problem is drugs.

not videogames, tv, or books.

people have been trying to censor messages they disagree with since before the bible.

just like devout muslims think ANY music is forbidden, and memorizing the koran is all that the average person needs, there is a frantic effort among other religions to insult their scriptures against debate, and political parties across the spectrum want to ban opposing ideas.

the world is not made better by censorship. or by narcotics addiction.

 

[Figjam]

Pay attention - liberal values.

...it's your story, tell it anyway you like.

 

[Renee]

Society as a whole bears some responsibility to the wider environment children are raised in. Never more than now has technology been better able to assist parents to filter crap out of their children's lives without resorting to the "censorship" the debauched "adult" elements of our society object to.

Do you really believe that parents can filter the crap out of the children's lives? Stop being so naïve.... As great as technology is , the Internet, it has created a totally different society and scary to me.

 

[marvin martian]

Do you really believe that parents can filter the crap out of the children's lives?

Yes. I'm sorry (for you and your children) that you failed so egregiously as a parent, but a lot of us are willing to work harder than that and do a better job...

 

[resident_evil]

the problem is drugs.

not videogames, tv, or books.

people have been trying to censor messages they disagree with since before the bible.

just like devout muslims think ANY music is forbidden, and memorizing the koran is all that the average person needs, there is a frantic effort among other religions to insult their scriptures against debate, and political parties across the spectrum want to ban opposing ideas.

the world is not made better by censorship. or by narcotics addiction.

Is there a difference between filtering and censorship?

Yes, censorship gets rid of material for all and permanently. Filtering on the other hand allows for labeling material and using that labeling to direct it away from demographic groups such as minors. When Playboys were held behind the counter at the store that was filtering. Banning the Playboys from the stores was censorship.

We can label shows at 20 second intervals to their content rating on television. All pornography can be relegated to domains such as .xxx and filtering programs can block out that top level domain more effectively than if porn is allowed to stay on .com domains. You can actually hold people legally liable for putting porn on .com if you legislate they must use .xxx. Not a perfect solution but definitely a speed bump. Violence can also be set aside for responsible adults to decide how best to allow these influences into their homes and into their children.

If I let my child go play at my neighbors house he should be liable for what content he exposes my child too. It should be a kind of child abuse to expose my child to debauchery. To hold my neighbor liable though he needs to be enabled to turn off evil from entering his home.

 

[resident_evil]

Do you really believe that parents can filter the crap out of the children's lives? Stop being so naïve.... As great as technology is , the Internet, it has created a totally different society and scary to me.

A lack of knowlege about technology is no excuse Renee.

 

[resident_evil]

Yes. I'm sorry (for you and your children) that you failed so egregiously as a parent, but a lot of us are willing to work harder than that and do a better job...

You only think they didn't get around your parenting. If you didn't get around your parents you weren't an ordinary kid.

 

[marvin martian]

You only think they didn't get around your parenting. If you didn't get around your parents you weren't an ordinary kid.

It's not about monitoring every single thing they do every minute of the day. It's about teaching them to make good decisions on their own, when confronted with the opportunity to do otherwise. That starts with moral teaching and instilling responsibility, accountability and a healthy fear of consequences...something folks like Renee clearly couldn't be bothered with because they were too busy.

 

[resident_evil]

It's not about monitoring every single thing they do every minute of the day. It's about teaching them to make good decisions on their own, when confronted with the opportunity to do otherwise. That starts with moral teaching and instilling responsibility, accountability and a healthy fear of consequences...something folks like Renee clearly couldn't be bothered with because they were too busy.

Of course it is about teaching them. That is given. Always has been.

Now think about kids, remember yourself as a child. Did you do anything you weren't supposed to as a child? I did. Most kids do. It helps to not only educate kids it is equally important to put speed bumps in their path.

 

[Renee]

Yes. I'm sorry (for you and your children) that you failed so egregiously as a parent, but a lot of us are willing to work harder than that and do a better job...

And I feel sorry for you that you believe you can filter what your children see. That is denying the reality that they have access to,social networking unless you are a good filtering parent and deny them use of computers and iPhones, we can protect them only so far....and then pray for them to take the right path. As a teacher I would see girls change clothes in the bathroom, I would see boys put their belts in the closet so their pants would sag.....and they too had parents who thought they were doing a great job.
What makes you think I failed egregiously as a parent? Pretty stupid and nasty thing to say. My daughter is an amazing woman, but I didn't fool myself into believing that filtering her , as you say, was totally possible.

 

[Renee]

It's not about monitoring every single thing they do every minute of the day. It's about teaching them to make good decisions on their own, when confronted with the opportunity to do otherwise. That starts with moral teaching and instilling responsibility, accountability and a healthy fear of consequences...something folks like Renee clearly couldn't be bothered with because they were too busy.

I bet your kids are despicable people since you must have shared your warped values with them...you certainly weren't too busy for that. Good decisions for your kids were probably to mock gay people and stay away from blacks,

 

[resident_evil]

And I feel sorry for you that you believe you can filter what your children see. That is denying the reality that they have access to,social networking unless you are a good filtering parent and deny them use of computers and iPhones, we can protect them only so far....and then pray for them to take the right path. As a teacher I would see girls change clothes in the bathroom, I would see boys put their belts in the closet so their pants would sag.....and they too had parents who thought they were doing a great job.
What makes you think I failed egregiously as a parent? Pretty stupid and nasty thing to say. My daughter is an amazing woman, but I didn't fool myself into believing that filtering her , as you say, was totally possible.

Computer illiteracy does not absolve you Renee. You can get phones that call only white listed numbers and 911. You can get firewalls that filter the internet for your children on your behalf. If companies can set up group policies for their computers families can do the same and much easier to boot. <-- this too was an intended pun for those who can see it.

 

[Renee]

Of course it is about teaching them. That is given. Always has been.

Now think about kids, remember yourself as a child. Did you do anything you weren't supposed to as a child? I did. Most kids do. It helps to not only educate kids it is equally important to put speed bumps in their path.

I agree....but parents have to also leave the door open so if their kids disobey and get into trouble, they can talk about it. Sometimes parents try to instill their values and their children might believe that their values are the correct ones , not the parents. I remember that with music. I love rock 'n roll and my parents thought it was disgusting and it would ruin society I just thought they were wrong. I have had students who wanted to have sex and their parents told them they better not and the kids just believed they were in love and it was okay. It doesn't mean they were bad children they just thought that parents were wrong. Of course I sided with the parents on that one. They were too young

 

[Renee]

Computer illiteracy does not absolve you Renee. You can get phones that call only white listed numbers and 911. You can get firewalls that filter the internet for your children on your behalf. If companies can set up group policies for their computers families can do the same and much easier to boot.

That's what you don't get.....kids can get around these things all the time. They go to friends houses. Not every parent is as technically savvy as you are. So you think giving your teen a cell phone that only dials white page,listed numbers and 911 is really fair? And do you really think that there aren't white page numbers that they can call that can also get them in trouble? I don't think you realize how savvy teenagers are. To me it is amazing. Remember companies can set up all these computer protections and still get hacked ....think of target

 

[Renee]

Is there a difference between filtering and censorship?

Yes, censorship gets rid of material for all and permanently. Filtering on the other hand allows for labeling material and using that labeling to direct it away from demographic groups such as minors. When Playboys were held behind the counter at the store that was filtering. Banning the Playboys from the stores was censorship.

We can label shows at 20 second intervals to their content rating on television. All pornography can be relegated to domains such as .xxx and filtering programs can block out that top level domain more effectively than if porn is allowed to stay on .com domains. You can actually hold people legally liable for putting porn on .com if you legislate they must use .xxx. Not a perfect solution but definitely a speed bump. Violence can also be set aside for responsible adults to decide how best to allow these influences into their homes and into their children.

If I let my child go play at my neighbors house he should be liable for what content he exposes my child too. It should be a kind of child abuse to expose my child to debauchery. To hold my neighbor liable though he needs to be enabled to turn off evil from entering his home.

You Give a good example with your playboy analogy. . Yes they hid the Playboys behind the counter . Then they were wrapped in brown paper and could not be sold to teenagers. But lo and behold just about every boy I know had the ability to get one.
Just like every kid has probably seen hardcore porn....I wish they didn't but it is naive not to think that they won't look .....