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Craig said:
It doesn't offend me in the slightest. I know why you use it. I think it's idiotic, but not offensive.

So...what is it you want? You despise the "global fascist bankers"...and hate both the Republicans and the Democrats. What is it you want? What do you hope to accomplish by screeching about the global fascists in your every post?
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I want my Liberty and Republic back!

I want a govt that is closest to "We the People", (local/State), Not a Federal Govt financed by a offshore central banking cartel, and taking its orders from the U.N in the name of globalism.
 
i think the twist here is that some interpret the provision of a road, or electricity, or the internet..or what have you as the government somehow bestowing (or granting access) these conveniences upon the individual, or business..

the fact is...it (the government) exists because We (the People) came together and created it, to serve us. Further, We (the People) commanded it to build such things as roads, electrical grids and the like.

When we did...we financed it through dint of taxation (or more precisely our forebears did, we pay to maintain, expand, upgrade). THese things, all of them, are already bought and paid for. THe govt isnt granting, facilitating, or otherwise providing access to those things...theyre ours...and we each avail ourselves of them to one degree or another. SOme, better than others.....and when they do..they pay more (in taxes). That's about the sum of it...no more is owed. Period.
 
worldlymrb said:
I want my Liberty and Republic back!

I want a govt that is closest to "We the People", (local/State), Not a Federal Govt financed by a offshore central banking cartel, and taking its orders from the U.N in the name of globalism.
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When did you...not the founders...but you...have liberty? Or...what liberties have you lost in your lifetime? You can write any thing you want here on the internet. You can move to another state. Worship as you see fit. Assemble with like minded folks. So...I don't go for these massive generalities...so...if you want to provide specifics...feel free.

And if that is your goal...why in god's name are you voting for either of these candidates???? Especially the one who has benefited the most by the very policies you say you despise? It's completely ludicrous.
 
Thanks for your biased opinion. I'll keep it on file for future reference in my "negative vibes" drawer.

Gramps





American Patriot said:
It never ceases to amaze me that when the far far left socialist progressives are confronted with facts, they either deny these facts or refute their sources saying the source was biased or far right, even when there are numerous sources provided from many different points of view. Even worse is when the actual words used by a socialist progressive like Obama are used in a debate the left says that it was taken out of context or quoted incorrectly. It seems to be a loosing battle to present real data and actual numbers to anyone on the far far left when they are confronted with failure, waste, fraud, abuse of power, cover ups, lies, and deceit, especially when Obama is involved.
The far far left somehow believes that by denying the truth and the validity of the subject discussed, that subject just vanishes into thin air. Justification of failure is not their forte, they just deny it happened or ever existed. Convenient but clearly not real nor a very intelligent way of perceiving reality. Logic, intellect, and facts do not seem to matter much to these folks on the far far left.
In the real world, people do build their own businesses, all by themselves. Most Americans are very concerned about the direction our nation is taking. Walking the walk is a whole lot different than talking the talk. When the far far left is confronted with the serious issues that are very real and do exist, they molly coddle and blame something or someone for that problem or concern. If you notice, no solution to the problem is ever even provided by the far far left as they do not have a solution and they will never compromise to anything other than what is in line with their own political agenda.
Broken promises seem to be a subject to be dismissed by stating that they all do that. Sort of sounds to me like the we have to vote for it to see what is in it line. Accountability is not a word the far far left seems to grasp very well.
We, as Americans are about to participate in what some have called the most important election in this century. The very fate of our nation is arguably hanging in the balance. The leader we select will have a very direct impact on all of our futures in this country. We had best choose wisely and carefully for if we do not we will have only ourselves to blame. Our nation needs real Leadership and Real Solutions to very difficult problems, denying these problems exist or blaming ATMs or George Bush for these problems, solves nothing. The far far left is drunk on Obama Kool Aid, they need some fresh air and they continue to kick the can down the road. Our best chance now is that there is real hope for change in the White House.
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Craig said:
When did you...not the founders...but you...have liberty? Or...what liberties have you lost in your lifetime? You can write any thing you want here on the internet. You can move to another state. Worship as you see fit. Assemble with like minded folks. So...I don't go for these massive generalities...so...if you want to provide specifics...feel free.

And if that is your goal...why in god's name are you voting for either of these candidates???? Especially the one who has benefited the most by the very policies you say you despise? It's completely ludicrous.
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what liberties have you lost in your lifetime? Are you serious? - Our public schools look like prisons - even kids lemonade stands are being jackbooted in the name of "public safety".

You blabber about freedom of speech - yet, federal govt creates illegal "free speech zones", makes protesting govt officials under Secret Service Protection an act of terrorism.

Does a free society have 30K armed drones monitoring its slaves?

And if the govt represents the people, why are they training the military for a armed insurrection which they claim will come from the Tea Party, Constitutionalists, Libertarians, who will ally with federal govt funded al-Quada?

And do this test. Create a blog describing with links, how the FEDERAL GOVT is SEIZING PRIVATE PROPERTY AT RECORD LEVELS, and see how quickly NSA run Google blocks access to your website with "Google has determined this website may harm your computer" warning.
 
Nice long rant, now what's your point? The left is anymore biased than the right? That's total BS and you know it.

In the real world name me one person who all by their lonesome built a business from nothing. You can't because such a person has never existed.

Accountablity? That coming from a rightwinger? Who on your side has ever taken responsibility for their actions? Not a single person.

I agree we better choose wisely in the coming election and send Romney and Ryan back to the ranks of the unemployed. I did notice that Ryan has no real commitment to running for VP with Romney, he is still on the ballot for his House seat just to cover his azzz when they lose.
 
Huh? We, the people, came together and created the conditions for mutual prosperity, by way of government investment. We, the people, come together and maintain those conditions, while expanding them to allow for future expanded mutual prosperity, by way of further government investment. If we, the people, choose, we can backtrack on that. We can under-invest in our common good, and watch our mutual prosperity erode. If we choose, we can collectively decide to let it erode all the way back to the kinds of dark-age subsistence level mankind suffered in during the era before government. That's our choice to make. I'm just saying it would be a really, really stupid choice. And, either way, only a complete cretin would think that any business around today exists in a kind of vacuum where it owes nothing to the mutual efforts made, by way of the government, to allow such prosperity in the first place.
 
worldlymrb said:
what liberties have you lost in your lifetime? Are you serious? - Our public schools look like prisons - even kids lemonaide stands are being jackbooted in the name of "public safety".

So...you...haven't lost any. You make noise about some LOCAL officials...the ones you say you wish to have control...and a lemonade stand. You make noise about schools...still run LOCALLY...as you say you desire. Fascinating.

You blabber about freedom of speech - yet, federal govt creates illegal "free speech zones", makes protesting govt officials under Secret Service Protection an act of terrorism.

Yet you continue to attack government officials right here on PJ.



Does a free society have 30K armed drones monitoring its slaves?

Does "free" mean unpoliced?

And if the govt represents the people, why are they training the military for a armed insurrection which they claim will come from the Tea Party, Constitutionalists, Libertarians, who will ally with federal govt funded al-Quada?

See: Wisconsin Sikh Slaughter.


And do this test. Create a blog describing with links, how the FEDERAL GOVT is SEIZING PRIVATE PROPERTY AT RECORD LEVELS, and see how quickly NSA run Google blocks access to your website with "Google has determined this website may harm your computer" warning.
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Linking to virus filled sites isn't a good idea. No one appreciates it.
 
Huh, huh? Who says a business owes nothing? and further that the individuals conprising it are not already paying in to that 'mutual effort'?
 
Arkady said:
Huh? We, the people, came together and created the conditions for mutual prosperity, by way of government investment. We, the people, come together and maintain those conditions, while expanding them to allow for future expanded mutual prosperity, by way of further government investment. If we, the people, choose, we can backtrack on that. We can under-invest in our common good, and watch our mutual prosperity erode. If we choose, we can collectively decide to let it erode all the way back to the kinds of dark-age subsistence level mankind suffered in during the era before government. That's our choice to make. I'm just saying it would be a really, really stupid choice. And, either way, only a complete cretin would think that any business around today exists in a kind of vacuum where it owes nothing to the mutual efforts made, by way of the government, to allow such prosperity in the first place.
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Your delusional. Only way to prosperity is through production/saving, and both are penalized/restricted by a global banking cartel, who are also majority shareholders of the worlds largest GLOBAL CORPORATIONS and govts.
 
The federal government wasn't funding it for the first ten years, from 1852-1862. Although it was a magnificent private enterprise, there wasn't much to it during that period (in comparison to after federal involvement). North and south weren't even connected.
 
Craig said:
Linking to virus filled sites isn't a good idea. No one appreciates it.
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Google doesn't say there are viruses on the site. And if Google really did block access to websites because of "virus's" there would be no porn on the internet.

It is just the way NSA Google censors content.
 
Rather than rant, how about some examples of facts that are in dispute. I read nothing here that could not be learned in a bar near a construction site.
 
College is for lefties and logic? A foreign concept created by Greeks who are nothing but socialists and communists...Get with the program here Leroy. Go outside, hit your head against the wall a few times and then come back and re-read this guys post. It will all make sense once you get the proper conditioning.
 
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