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Under the Constitution, Article 1, Section 9, among other relevant laws.

No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State.

Got it. So asking the president of Ukraine to get to the bottom of a story is illegal. So you're on record as saying no politician can ask for a favor without facing legal action. But extorting them, as in threatening to take money away if a person isn't fired, giving them a time limit to comply, then rewarding the compliance is OK. Wow, I guess it's a good thing Joe Biden extorted instead of asking a favor, huh?
 
Asking someone to look into a legitimate criminal concern on behalf of the country is one thing ... asking someone to affirm bogus charges against a political rival is something entirely different.

A legitimate concern... like a politician who bragged about extorting a senior government official of another country?
 
Why do you think that's the only reason?

Trump’s obvious desperation and the fact that he avoided going through normal channels by asking the president to meet with his personal attorney, and the way the White House evinced consciousness of wrongdoing by immediately attempting to cover up the phone call.
 
Trump’s obvious desperation and the fact that he avoided going through normal channels by asking the president to meet with his personal attorney, and the way the White House evinced consciousness of wrongdoing by immediately attempting to cover up the phone call.

Wow, they sure did a lousy job of covering up the phone call, given the transcript has been released. Or is that just another trick by the Trump administration?
 
Ask him to do a personal favor in exchange for political decisions.

Given Ukrainian prosecutors had already been investigating Biden and Biden had already bragged about extorting Ukraine on video, clearly it was no longer personal.

But using your logic, Biden could say he killed someone on video, and Trump couldn't ask anyone to look into it because that would be election interference. Wow, I had no idea just being a presidential candidate gave one such immunity. Why didn't that immunity you speak of benefit Donald Trump during the 2016 campaign? You know, like with the Steele dossier, for example.
 
"interfere"?

Loaded language there.

I thought finding out crimes was a good thing. However, I guess when it's against Democrats, it's suddenly "interfering" in things.

I guess info outside of the USA doesn't count? and it's not fair? That's what we learned from the DNC hack.

And this coming from someone who supports an investigation based on a Russian Steele Dossier? LMAO

It is not “finding out” crimes when you tell the other country what you want them to “find out.”
 
They wanted American aid and they knew what they had to say to get it ... top officials are already on record saying so.

So Trump was extorting them last year????? Wow, that's a new revelation. Tell me more.
 
and again, the investigation into collusion was based on a paid for Russian Steele Dossier..

That's foreign.. interference?

Suddenly it's not so evil I guess.

Steele produced the dossier on his own initiative, based on the evidence he unearthed while doing routine opposition research that was paid for. No one went to him and told him what to find.
 
It is not “finding out” crimes when you tell the other country what you want them to “find out.”

Well yeah, given Biden bragged about extorting Ukraine and given a prosecutor had already found evidence against Biden and other corrupt US politicians, it would be derelict for Trump to NOT ask them to find out the rest of the story.
 
Steele produced the dossier on his own initiative, based on the evidence he unearthed while doing routine opposition research that was paid for. No one went to him and told him what to find.

Translation: Steele was paid to dig up dirt on Trump. But I'll lie and say otherwise.
 
Julie sweetheart, please educate yourself. The Ukrainians have been trying to give us evidence of US corruption since at least 2018. Here are some of the FACTS you'll have to deal with.

  • Sworn statements from two Ukrainian officials admitting that their agency tried to influence the 2016 U.S. presidential election in favor of Hillary Clinton. The effort included leaking an alleged ledger showing payments to then-Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort;

  • Contacts between Democratic figures in Washington and Ukrainian officials that involved passing along dirt on Donald Trump;

  • Financial records showing a Ukrainian natural gas company routed more than $3 million to American accounts tied to Hunter Biden, younger son of then-Vice President Joe Biden, who managed U.S.-Ukraine relations for the Obama administration. Biden’s son served on the board of a Ukrainian natural gas company, Burisma Holdings;

  • Records that Vice President Biden pressured Ukrainian officials in March 2016 to fire the prosecutor who oversaw an investigation of Burisma Holdings and who planned to interview Hunter Biden about the financial transfers;

  • Correspondence showing members of the State Department and U.S. Embassy in Kiev interfered or applied pressure in criminal cases on Ukrainian soil;

  • Disbursements of as much as $7 billion in Ukrainian funds that prosecutors believe may have been misappropriated or taken out of the country, including to the United States.

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-h...s-why-dont-you-want-our-evidence-on-democrats

Most of those allegations can be traced directly to Giuliani. The Ukrainian prosecutor alleging wrongdoing by Biden has since admitted he “has no evidence.”

https://www.politicaljack.com/threa...k-at-since-at-least-2018.125057/#post-2536300
 
There's certainly a conflict of interest in Biden's case. That's not in dispute. Whether it's worthwhile of an investigation could be up to dispute, but nobody can say there's absolutely nothing.


Then why was the Russian Steele Dossier fine and dandy?

Because the Steele dossier (which came from the U.K., not Russia) came into McCain’s hands unsolicited.
 
Because the Steele dossier (which came from the U.K., not Russia) came into McCain’s hands unsolicited.

Irrelevant. It was dirt bought and paid for to interfere with a presidential election. Leaking it to McCain doesn't change that.
 
Maybe the opinion writer knows of which he speaks... but a quick check on his creds, claims he like to create fake controversy.
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John F. Solomon is an American who has worked as an investigative reporter, a media executive, and as a conservative political commentator. He is an editorialist and executive vice president of digital video for The Hill.[1] He was formerly employed as an executive and as editor-in-chief at The Washington Times.[2] He has a reputation for magnifying small scandals and creating fake controversy.[3][4]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Solomon_(political_commentator)

In fact, he (via Giuliani and Lutsenko) is the source of many of the debunked rumors about Biden in the first places
 
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