American Patriot
Mayor
Obama seemed hell bent to free a deserter Sgt. at any cost. Why is it then that he allowed four Americans to be murdered in Benghazi, and he never lifted a finger to help them in any way at all.
Please Explain This
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If Obama did not order reinforcements....how did Doherty die? He was in Tripoli when the attack began.
If the consulate received no help....how was it that the hundred or so militiamen not manage to kill all thirty people at the consulate? In fact, reinforcements were sent from the CIA annex and arrived about 20 minutes after the start of the attack. The reinforcements sent from Tripoli arrived a couple hours later.....
Why lie? This stuff is easily checked.
as seen on tv
Senator
the parents of the 4 diplomats in libya didn't have their parents pester the white house day in and day out.
we don't have the rule of law in america; we have the rule of lobbying and public relations.
we don't have the rule of law in america; we have the rule of lobbying and public relations.
Really? There were four diplomats killed in Libya?
So, reinforcements didnt come from the CIA annex?
And the fact that Glen Doherty was in Tripoli when the attack began would have anyone interested in the truth to wonder how he was killed in Benghazi....but that wouldn't interest "American Patriot"....
I think we all understand that Obama's priority is politics. He thought releasing Bergdahl would help him politically. He thought doing anything at all in Benghazi that might show voters that terrorists were still active would hurt him politically.
It's all about helping him politically.
That's all it ever was.
It's all about helping him politically.
That's all it ever was.
By doing "anything at all" I assume you mean sending help from the nearest group of armed Americans (at the CIA annex) as well as the next nearest group of armed Americans (Tripoli)....oh, yeah....he wouldn't want to do that. Oh...he did?
What he didn't do was send a couple of F-15s from Aviano (nearest AF base)...to fly over and make noise for a few minutes (because that is all the time they'd have after using all their fuel to get there) or FA-18s from Sigonella....same problem.
What we did not have is aircraft capable of landing troops on the ground within range of being able to help. No helicopters with enough range to reach Benghazi from our bases in Italy...and that is what would have been needed, but even then, given a speed of 150mph or so....it would have been hours to get there and the ambassador was certainly dead by then.
Arkady
President
First, the soldier in question has never been convicted of desertion. At this point, that's just a rumor. He deserves his day in court before we brand him a deserter.
Second, what makes you think Obama "allowed" four Americans to be murdered in Benghazi?
Figjam
Mayor
...how do you or anyone know Berghdal was a deserter? He may be a deserter or he may have gone undercover - the CIA kept awfully close tabs on someone for his 5-years in captivity - ever wonder why? I certainly don't know why, do you?
...what proof do you have to support the claim that Obama, "allowed four Americans to be murdered in Benghazi..." - oh, right, none...
Caroljo
Senator
Obama did nothing......The RSO in Benghazi notified the Benghazi CIA to send out help, and the CIA & JSOC in Tripoli scrambled to find a way to get there to help. Obama sent NOBODY. They can make all the excuses they want...but this could have been taken care of by providing the security that was needed, or they could have forced the Americans to leave the consulate like they had others. But no, they left them there without enough security when there had been threats for weeks or months.
The Regional Security Office sounded the alarm and placed calls to the Benghazi CIA annex and the embassy in Tripoli, saying, "We're under attack, we need help, please send help now ..." Then the call cut off. After some discussion, the CIA's Global Response Staff (GRS) at the CIA annex, which included senior security operative Tyrone S. Woods, decided to implement a rescue. By 10:05pm, the team was briefed and loaded into their armored Toyota Land Cruisers. By this time, communicators at the CIA annex were notifying the chain of command about current developments, and a small CIA and JSOC element in Tripoli that included Glen Doherty was attempting to find a way to Benghazi
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Benghazi_attack
Drumcollie
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yet no link...hmmm suspicious
Drumcollie
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who has Obama attacked or put in jail for this crime and what efforts has he made to convict...hmmm let me guess a Coptic Christian is in jail and Hillary blames the Swedes for this... A Smaland savage group.
Caroljo
Senator
Yes....but they weren't sent by Obama, or Clinton.
so, in the entire military, security apparatus...only Obama and or Clinton respectively taking an action would have been the satisfactory response, no other persons of responsibility could do so? regardless of the FACT that reinforcements were too far away...and for that matter that security enhancements / funing were cut by..... awww heck....Republicans.... there I said it.
Arkady
President
I don't know how the military justice system works, but if this were a civilian matter, the president would have no role in deciding whether or not to prosecute Berghdal. In fact, it would be quite inappropriate for him to intervene in one direction or another. That's a decision for the Justice Department. I'd imagine there's a similar decision-making apparatus for the Pentagon that decides when there's sufficient evidence of a crime by a soldier to justify prosecution.
As for Benghazi, time will tell. It can take a long time to get justice. Just ask Bush -- seven and a half years after the 9/11 attack, he left office with Bin Laden still evading us. And that was despite Bush essentially getting a blank check from Congress for anything he wanted to do in relation to the terrorist threat (even an authorization to use force on a completely unrelated nation).
Drumcollie
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wow did you just waste a lot of space on gibberish or jibberish if you prefer...that was alot to say you know nothing. Maybe you could do what no lefty has ever done before...research the subject matter...I know right...Voodoo to you...and not an F101.
Bush quit thinking about Bin Laden a couple of months after he killed 3,000 Americans...Obama ordered his death. You have no evidence that there is not an effort underway to find those responsible. It ain't over until January 2017.
fairsheet
Senator
Benghazi, amnesty, General Motors. Obama, taxes, regulations.
So while this was happening you think nobody was in touch with anyone in DC?
The system operated as it was supposed to. You want to blame Obama because some undersecretary of state denied a request for two more security guards, but he gets no credit when other government employees do the right thing.
Do you actually think that the folks in Tripoli were operating on their own with no instructions from anyone higher up at state?
