Queen Titania
Senator
How can a happy balance be found?
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Poll on Moderating
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RickWA
The Pissant Snagglesooth
In my humble opinion...from one who went from zero times banned (or even warned) over the better part of a decade to twice banned in the past week...the moderation has become markedly more heavy-handed. There is clearly a NEW objective in play.
While I favor a wider berth in terms of allowable expression, I acknowledge private property rights as critical.
I am here less and less. The fact of the matter is that the rules here allow complete retards to jack up whole threads - and for entire discussions among multiple posters to be THREADKILLED by a certain unbalanced poster or two...and then if one refers to someone in discussion as a knucklehead, it's immediate account banishment.
Again, it would be more rationally and sparingly managed if it were up to me, but I didn't buy this forum - and I recognize an owner's right to be wrong. Dead wrong.
Have a nice day.
Dang.In my humble opinion...from one who went from zero times banned (or even warned) over the better part of a decade to twice banned in the past week...the moderation has become markedly more heavy-handed. There is clearly a NEW objective in play.
While I favor a wider berth in terms of allowable expression, I acknowledge private property rights as critical.
I am here less and less. The fact of the matter is that the rules here allow complete retards to jack up whole threads - and for entire discussions among multiple posters to be THREADKILLED by a certain unbalanced poster or two...and then if one refers to someone in discussion as a knucklehead, it's immediate account banishment.
Again, it would be more rationally and sparingly managed if it were up to me, but I didn't buy this forum - and I recognize an owner's right to be wrong. Dead wrong.
Have a nice day.
I had no idea.
There is no point in posting when there are so many words in the list of things we can't say that nobody can remember what they are.
Moderators should be pleased if they are asked to just moderate actual threats and illegal statements. That's how I would like to see it go.
But then, of course................. the thread killers would be out there killing any decent thread that shows up. Clearly, we have people here who would never be allowed to stay on any other board.
It is those thread killers, and we all know who they are, and the thread killing is no accident .............who will kill the board if they can. I am here less too.
Queen Titania
Senator
Queen Titania
Senator
In my humble opinion...from one who went from zero times banned (or even warned) over the better part of a decade to twice banned in the past week...the moderation has become markedly more heavy-handed. There is clearly a NEW objective in play.
While I favor a wider berth in terms of allowable expression, I acknowledge private property rights as critical.
I am here less and less. The fact of the matter is that the rules here allow complete retards to jack up whole threads - and for entire discussions among multiple posters to be THREADKILLED by a certain unbalanced poster or two...and then if one refers to someone in discussion as a knucklehead, it's immediate account banishment.
Again, it would be more rationally and sparingly managed if it were up to me, but I didn't buy this forum - and I recognize an owner's right to be wrong. Dead wrong.
Have a nice day.
SW said that he will go with us if we all, or at least most of us, would rather allow the insults to flow
Will he?
I am still willing to go the less/ almost no moderation route.
Queen Titania
Senator
Queen Titania
Senator
RickWA
The Pissant Snagglesooth
Who knows? It's his call - as it should be as owner.
I'm not actually arguing for insults in any case. I am arguing that there exist more formidable obstacles to good faith discussion than simple name-calling...and that stifling expression is a cure worse than the disease. Many is the time I've been called all manner of things...from "Theocrat" to "fake Christian" (virtually EVERY TIME I AM HERE) by the same two posters. I never report it. I will never report other posters. Never have, never will.
Free expression is too important. Even when folks are wrong.
SW is an intelligent man. He can see thru the ugly motives of some here. I don't think he is going to allow name calling anymore. And he shouldn't. It isn't censorship; it's just common courtesy.
Anyone who doesn't like his rules is free to seek greener pastures.
Anyone who doesn't like his rules is free to seek greener pastures.
RickWA
The Pissant Snagglesooth
Surely he is - enough so that the Eddie Haskell routine sells not so well.
Have a nice evening.
Queen Titania
Senator
Yes it is SW's call but isn't it obviously the 'report game' which has brought on these stricter rules? All Mods see and have to deal with are 'reports' so the rules, ( outside the obvious) in the main, are based on them.
I know we are a community, or at least, we are not strangers to one another, each with different styles in and abilities to debate, some like their insults and others not so much - and but yes I agree with you --- who cannot?
Nor am I not much of one for insulting people - though I have a huge, though not very imaginative, collection of insults which have flown my way, which I do not report ----- Baths have a lot to answer for in the decline of a decent insult - there just are not enough cod pieces and toe rags around any more.
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Queen Titania
Senator
Is sycophant the mode this week? It suits your faces well, both of them?
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Queen Titania
Senator
Yep. That's life.
We're all free to purchase our own forums if we want to enforce our own sensibilities. I barely have time to occasionally participate here - I certainly could not do any forum justice. Pure armchair quarterbacking by me here.
One maybe the owner here but they took on what has become our 'local'. It is a two way street - a relationship -
RickWA
The Pissant Snagglesooth
You are correct that "reporting" is the action agent in all of this. Regardless, I have never reported any poster for any reason and I shall not. That is a "values" thing and I won't do it regardless of outcomes. I blame no mods for what I do - they simply execute scope based on published (and newly emphasized) rules. I freely acknowledge that it is on me if/when I am banned for calling someone a name. That is a dumb reason for banishment, but if I did it (and if they want to enforce dumb rules), that is MY fault.
You are a night owl, young lady.
Queen Titania
Senator
You are correct that "reporting" is the action agent in all of this. Regardless, I have never reported any poster for any reason and I shall not. That is a "values" thing and I won't do it regardless of outcomes. I blame no mods for what I do - they simply execute scope based on published (and newly emphasized) rules. I freely acknowledge that it is on me if/when I am banned for calling someone a name. That is a dumb reason for banishment, but if I did it (and if they want to enforce dumb rules), that is MY fault.
You are a night owl, young lady.
Yes, I seem to have turned the clocks round again, don't I? Oh, they'll right themselves in a couple of days.
Ummm ok so, knowing the rules, it is our fault if our voice is silenced for a day or more. If though the rules are curbing the flow of everyones communications , rules which are made because of the actions of a few, is it not best that mods and owner and crew talk about it?
RickWA
The Pissant Snagglesooth
Yes, it is good if you are able to cause some basic introspection and rethinking of poorly conceived concessions (and, believe me, I specifically use the term "concessions" for a reason - frankly, it's been one ankle-grab after another - from symbols, buttons, and emoticons to rules enforcement). The whining, moaning squeaky wheel gets the lube.
Good luck with that. Principle and...ahem...testicular fortitude are in short supply in 21st Century America.
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