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Poor, poor climate warmists. Here's your failure.

Even if the U.S. went to zero emission overnight that wouldn't stop China from running the CO2 into the Red Zone. Hey, dummies, you have to sequester Chinese ambient CO2 or else forget about it.

10 Images Show China's Doomsday Air Pollution | China Uncensored

 
Even if the U.S. went to zero emission overnight that wouldn't stop China from running the CO2 into the Red Zone. Hey, dummies, you have to sequester Chinese ambient CO2 or else forget about it.

10 Images Show China's Doomsday Air Pollution | China Uncensored

Whatever response(s) you receive, I'm interested in the scenario and/or classification of "Doomsday Air Pollution".

Our environment matters. That's why we shouldn't be hyperbolic in its discussion. Much like how our pols serve up bills, we should abide no ride-ons.
 
Whatever response(s) you receive, I'm interested in the scenario and/or classification of "Doomsday Air Pollution".

Our environment matters. That's why we shouldn't be hyperbolic in its discussion. Much like how our pols serve up bills, we should abide no ride-ons.

That shot of Beijing smog from orbit being 600 miles across is mind boggling!!! What bothers me is that these guys complain that the bulk of the CO2 was put there by the West and that 'fact' means they get to put more in the air. But who said they could create such a untenable demand on the world environment by breeding to such a large extent? They want to throw blame around I think they got some splain' to do.

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No I didn't. I know their air is bad. But you want to use China as an excuse of inaction. Don't.


It does beg the question, though: If you want to keep a balloon from popping, what good is accomplished from protecting only 1/2 of the balloon and not the other?
 
No I didn't. I know their air is bad. But you want to use China as an excuse of inaction. Don't.

Not an excuse.

What you liberals want is like the desire to have a peeing section in a pool. No peeing allowed in the US side of the pool, China/India, piss away...............We will save us all.

Doesn't work. Try again.
 
It does beg the question, though: If you want to keep a balloon from popping, what good is accomplished from protecting only 1/2 of the balloon and not the other?
Not an excuse.

What you liberals want is like the desire to have a peeing section in a pool. No peeing allowed in the US side of the pool, China/India, piss away...............We will save us all.

Doesn't work. Try again.

It is no longer a matter of reversing or even stopping the temperature rise. It is not a matter of how fast and how severe it will be. What ever action that is taken now goes towards the time allotted for current and future preparations to mitigate the impact.
 
STRONGLY recommended reading: Better Growth, Better Climate: The New Climate Economy Report, recently published by the prestigious London School of Economics.

Shifting more rapidly to renewable energy resources is good for us, REGARDLESS of what China is doing. It is good for us, because it will lead to: (1) FASTER economic growth; (2) a CLEANER environment; and (3) LONGER life expectancies.

But as for China, that country is investing more in solar and wind power than ANY OTHER COUNTRY on the planet. They are going to burn less coal this year than they did last year. Yes, China is terribly polluted, but the current Chinese leadership takes climate change seriously, and is aware of the need for change.

Should we assume that you are in favor of: (1) SLOWER economic growth; (2) a DIRTIER environment; and (3) SHORTER life expectancies?
 
china opens an average of 1 or 2 additional coal fired electric generation plants each week. they have the planet's largest proven reserves of coal
 
STRONGLY recommended reading: Better Growth, Better Climate: The New Climate Economy Report, recently published by the prestigious London School of Economics.

Shifting more rapidly to renewable energy resources is good for us, REGARDLESS of what China is doing. It is good for us, because it will lead to: (1) FASTER economic growth; (2) a CLEANER environment; and (3) LONGER life expectancies.

But as for China, that country is investing more in solar and wind power than ANY OTHER COUNTRY on the planet. They are going to burn less coal this year than they did last year. Yes, China is terribly polluted, but the current Chinese leadership takes climate change seriously, and is aware of the need for change.

Should we assume that you are in favor of: (1) SLOWER economic growth; (2) a DIRTIER environment; and (3) SHORTER life expectancies?

You'd get my cooperation immediately if you would couple support for freer markets (and lower corporate taxes) with a carbon tax.
 
You'd get my cooperation immediately if you would couple support for freer markets (and lower corporate taxes) with a carbon tax.

I've been in favor of lower corporate taxes for, oh, about 25 years. MY idea is that we should gradually replace the income tax with a carbon tax. NO income taxes: how does THAT grab you?
 
I've been in favor of lower corporate taxes for, oh, about 25 years. MY idea is that we should gradually replace the income tax with a carbon tax. NO income taxes: how does THAT grab you?

I could go for that but we would still have to do something about the corporate tax mess to be competitive internationally.
 
I could go for that but we would still have to do something about the corporate tax mess to be competitive internationally.

No disagreement. With the right kind of tax reforms, I would even be willing to abolish the corporate profits tax, along with the income tax. On the other hand, I would actually INCREASE the estate tax, inheritance tax, or death tax----call it what you wish.
 
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