Primary voting out dated?

[Dawg]

In Oregon you cannot vote in party primaries. In TX you could.

As world posted DNC voters don't pick President candidate, Super Delegates do
Remember at DNC convention when crowd didn't want Jesus invoked and those in charge held 3 votes and went against the crowd to get r done? Voters are toothpicks.

 

[Spamature]

Come on Spam. You are starting to sound like some of the right wingers here running around like chickens with their heads screaming that the sky is falling because of Joe, Hunter and now Jim Biden. If Trump wins, it will be the fault of the 50%+ of Americans who don’t bother to vote. Then, like my old man said, you get what you get. Either way, I will survive. I do what I can and try to enlighten people I interact with. I will cast my vote. I’m not worried.

You don't most of that 50% wouldn't vote for Trump if they did vote.
Sure, you'll be fine. Just erase your history here. Else, you might make the new dear leader's enemies list. He promised retribution.

 

[Spamature]

Nope - It will be the fault of the Democrats who stood by silently while a mediocre 81 year old decrepit President put his ego ahead of his country and ran for re-election when it is obvious that someone younger would make a better Commander in Chief.

The ONLY reason to vote for Biden is because Trump is worse. And to many that just isn't enough. Maybe if enough people stay home the Democrats will get rid of the current party leaders and start replacing them with people that will actually fight for the things that these fossils only pay lip service to. Unfortunately there may not be a country to save by that point.

Are you voting for Biden ?

 

[write on]

Is it me or is the primary voting process out dated. Seems like it was created in the horse and buggy era where candidates would travel the country slowly and the different states would vote in their primary. The current system when Trump first ran for president gave Trump an insurmountable lead because there were so many candidates and as they dropped out his lead shrunk but it was too little too late. If the entire primary had been revoted at the end of the election season that year Trump may have lost.

It seems like the current Primary process favors the early leader and is out dated with today's media, travel, and news cycle being much quicker than it was when the process was created. It also seems that the current system allows a candidate to build a big enough lead that any bad press towards the end of the process could have no effect on the final outcome and leave a lot of early primary voter's upset they can't change their vote. Of course as an independent I don't get to vote in any primary's.

Thoughts, what am I missing?

The media now controls the vote.

I've read this before...

What do we do about it?

 

[Jack4freedom]

You don't most of that 50% wouldn't vote for Trump if they did vote.
Sure, you'll be fine. Just erase your history here. Else, you might make the new dear leader's enemies list. He promised retribution.

I am not scared of Trumps retribution. The sky is not falling. We be ok Brother…

 

[Dawg]

I am not scared of Trumps retribution. The sky is not falling. We be ok Brother…

Good thing this isn't 'X' Smith is collecting every name that mentions Trump on what was Twitter (that I've never been on)



Again, IMO neither Biden or Trump will be 24 Noms.......their mega donors are jumping the ships

 

[middleview]

I guess I never realized an independent can vote in primaries. Maybe its just my state or maybe I don't know what I am doing?

In 2000 I was pissed at how McCain was treated in the primary and reregistered as a democrat, only because in Colorado there was no provision for Independents to vote in primaries. In 2008 that changed...now you can choose to vote in the primary for one party or the other, but not both.

 

[middleview]

Damn right I would want to groom a little girl on how to use a 9mm snub-nosed handgun to defend herself from a cult of Homosexual/Trans leftist wanting to surgically remove her gentile without parental consent or have her sit on the lap of some hairy 6ft dude with an erection for Drag Queen story time. Wouldn't you?

Newsom Signs Bill That Removes Children from Parents Who Oppose Transgender Treatments (christian-heritage-news.com)

Figures the "Christian Heritage" bunch would lie about the bill.

Texas has passed a law that allows the state to take children away from parents who allow their children to undergo gender therapies.

While SB 107 (here), does not grant California courts any new powers to take custody of minors away from parents, according to legal analysts, it was designed in part to prevent California courts from participating in another state’s attempt to take custody away from parents for providing gender-affirming care to their child.

California law gives courts clear jurisdiction over minors seeking gender care in the state | Reuters

 

[Alinvegas]

Is it me or is the primary voting process out dated. Seems like it was created in the horse and buggy era where candidates would travel the country slowly and the different states would vote in their primary. The current system when Trump first ran for president gave Trump an insurmountable lead because there were so many candidates and as they dropped out his lead shrunk but it was too little too late. If the entire primary had been revoted at the end of the election season that year Trump may have lost.

It seems like the current Primary process favors the early leader and is out dated with today's media, travel, and news cycle being much quicker than it was when the process was created. It also seems that the current system allows a candidate to build a big enough lead that any bad press towards the end of the process could have no effect on the final outcome and leave a lot of early primary voter's upset they can't change their vote. Of course as an independent I don't get to vote in any primary's.

Thoughts, what am I missing?

By all means, we must abolish anything that helps Trump...

 

[middleview]

Is it me or is the primary voting process out dated. Seems like it was created in the horse and buggy era where candidates would travel the country slowly and the different states would vote in their primary. The current system when Trump first ran for president gave Trump an insurmountable lead because there were so many candidates and as they dropped out his lead shrunk but it was too little too late. If the entire primary had been revoted at the end of the election season that year Trump may have lost.

It seems like the current Primary process favors the early leader and is out dated with today's media, travel, and news cycle being much quicker than it was when the process was created. It also seems that the current system allows a candidate to build a big enough lead that any bad press towards the end of the process could have no effect on the final outcome and leave a lot of early primary voter's upset they can't change their vote. Of course as an independent I don't get to vote in any primary's.

Thoughts, what am I missing?

I would favor regional primaries instead of having a few states control the primaries. At present Iowa (Jan 15) and New Hampshire (Jan 23) have a huge impact on the rest of the country. South Carolina (Feb 3), Nevada (Feb 6) and Michigan (feb 27) will make our choices for us...just 6 states.

 

[middleview]

By all means, we must abolish anything that helps Trump...

Like the law about inciting insurrection?

 

[SW48]

The media now controls the vote.

I've read this before...

What do we do about it?

You would think we wouldn't have to do anything about it. You would think the parties would look and think "this is an outdated system that doesn't necessarily give us the best candidate" and change the system to just campaigning and then a month before the presidential election have all states vote the same day for primary.

 

[middleview]

You would think we wouldn't have to do anything about it. You would think the parties would look and think "this is an outdated system that doesn't necessarily give us the best candidate" and change the system to just campaigning and then a month before the presidential election have all states vote the same day for primary.

Doesn't the same logic apply to the Electoral College?

 

[SW48]

Doesn't the same logic apply to the Electoral College?

Seeing as to how the electors always vote the way they are supposed to and the people vote on the same day, I would say it is not the same logic.

But I am open to hearing how you think they are the same

 

[EatTheRich]

Is it me or is the primary voting process out dated. Seems like it was created in the horse and buggy era where candidates would travel the country slowly and the different states would vote in their primary. The current system when Trump first ran for president gave Trump an insurmountable lead because there were so many candidates and as they dropped out his lead shrunk but it was too little too late. If the entire primary had been revoted at the end of the election season that year Trump may have lost.

It seems like the current Primary process favors the early leader and is out dated with today's media, travel, and news cycle being much quicker than it was when the process was created. It also seems that the current system allows a candidate to build a big enough lead that any bad press towards the end of the process could have no effect on the final outcome and leave a lot of early primary voter's upset they can't change their vote. Of course as an independent I don't get to vote in any primary's.

Thoughts, what am I missing?

What’s your alternative?

 

[SW48]

What’s your alternative?

All states do primary voting on the same day.

 

[middleview]

Seeing as to how the electors always vote the way they are supposed to and the people vote on the same day, I would say it is not the same logic.

But I am open to hearing how you think they are the same

They are both outdated, they both interfere in actual democratic process.

 

[Dawg]

Seeing as to how the electors always vote the way they are supposed to and the people vote on the same day, I would say it is not the same logic.

But I am open to hearing how you think they are the same

They are not the same, w/out electoral would allow the states with highest populations always Win

 

[Spamature]

What’s your alternative?

WWE style Royal Rumble, of course.

Can't wait for those conventions.

 

[write on]

You would think we wouldn't have to do anything about it. You would think the parties would look and think "this is an outdated system that doesn't necessarily give us the best candidate" and change the system to just campaigning and then a month before the presidential election have all states vote the same day for primary.

I think that we should kick the electoral college out of the door for the simple fact that your vote shouldn't be given special treatment just because you decided to live rural.