Project Veritas

[middleview]

I didn’t make the numbers up. Read them off different sites, all describing the charges distinctly.
So there goes that theory eh?

Most of the convictions were not for "Vote Fraud". They were for paying their employees bonuses for the number of registrations they got....whether they were fraudulent is another issue...(Nevada).

Can you find one instance of an illegal vote cast as a result of Acorn? In the case of the conviction in Seattle the guy and his "crew" were making up names...inventing SS numbers. Just to make their numbers. Nobody used that registration to cast a vote.

Just thought you might want to know.

 

[EatTheRich]

With any large organization, if you look hard enough, you'll find someone, somewhere, doing something illegal. But, with Acorn, despite intensive review, there was never any criminality found that was remotely sufficient to justify defunding them. That's why O'Keefe found it necessary to lie to get the job done. The truth wasn't cutting it, so he invented a story and doctored some video to try to support it, and the Congress fell for it hook, line, and sinker. But the good news is that O'Keefe's scams don't work like they used to. His kind of naked dishonesty was something people weren't really prepared for. Now that it's understood that he simply lies through his teeth whenever it's politically convenient, people demand stronger evidence, and that has really hurt his effectiveness.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.th...s-protesters-trial-trump-inauguration-protest

 

[middleview]

Your opinion is that hundreds of crimes and thousands of invented phony voters didn’t warrant being defunded. I totally disagree. This was clearly a huge politicized scam organization devised to get Democrats elected. They were necessarily and responsibly defunded.
Your lack of standards never fails to disappoint.

Can you point to a single fraudulent vote? If not then it had nothing at all to do with getting democrats elected.

 

[Arkady]

Your opinion is that hundreds of crimes and thousands of invented phony voters didn’t warrant being defunded. I totally disagree. This was clearly a huge politicized scam organization devised to get Democrats elected. They were necessarily and responsibly defunded.
Your lack of standards never fails to disappoint.

My opinion is that they were seen as a threat by Republicans, because they encouraged turnout by the poor. So, the Republicans searched around for even the scantest of excuse to defund them, and Democrats didn't have the guts to stand up to that.

 

[middleview]

Congrats....you got it right for once PPH didn't molest 'em, they butchered 'em for profit and continue to do so with help of taxpayer money demonic-rats voted to keep supplying even after O'Keefe blew them up for what they are....EVIL

You have evidence that the Veritas organization was dishonest to the very fabric of it's existence and you continue to defend them as if they have any credibility at all. That is the bottom line.

 

[Dino]

My opinion is that they were seen as a threat by Republicans, because they encouraged turnout by the poor. So, the Republicans searched around for even the scantest of excuse to defund them, and Democrats didn't have the guts to stand up to that.

Yes, stopping fraudulent Democrats from voting is racism and economic warfare.
What an enlightened opinion!

 

[as seen on tv]

I'm not a fan of ambush journalism with fake victims.

that said, the "jaywalking" bits Jay Leno used to do on late night, where local Californians could be baited into objecting to free speech, be completely unable to name their governor or other officials, assert Lincoln was a democrat and the first president, etc.

this completely explains why California went heavily for Hillary in 2016.

 

[Constitutional Sheepdog]

Can you refute this:

https://www.snopes.com/2016/10/18/project-veritas-election-videos/

"The framing and style of videos created by James O’Keefe is well known due to his 2009 'sting' in which he and accomplice Hannah Giles visited ACORN offices and pretended to be seeking advice on how to run an illegal business that included the use of underage girls in the sex trade.

"The resulting videos — which were edited to create the impression that O’Keefe and Giles had spoken to ACORN representatives while dressed as a pimp and prostitute — dealt that organization a mortal blow before reports publicizing the deception in O’Keefe’s videos came to light..."

Ok snoopes lies

 

[Dino]

Most of the convictions were not for "Vote Fraud". They were for paying their employees bonuses for the number of registrations they got....whether they were fraudulent is another issue...(Nevada).

Can you find one instance of an illegal vote cast as a result of Acorn? In the case of the conviction in Seattle the guy and his "crew" were making up names...inventing SS numbers. Just to make their numbers. Nobody used that registration to cast a vote.

Just thought you might want to know.

You have no idea whether any of the phony registrations cast votes. That’s why your side opposes voter ID laws. To insure illegal voters are not caught.

 

[Zam-Zam]

You can argue about their tactics, but the fact is Project Veritas films people when they don't think they're being filmed, and this sometimes results in a truth being revealed that some would prefer to keep hidden. These aren't nuclear launch codes we're talking about - these are liars being caught in a lie.

Obviously, those so-exposed don't like it, and so the pushback.

 

[middleview]

You have no idea whether any of the phony registrations cast votes. That’s why your side opposes voter ID laws. To insure illegal voters are not caught.

1. I have no problem with reasonable ID requirements. Look for any post by me with "fingerprint". That was my suggestion.
2. You have no evidence of fraudulent votes cast as a result of anything Acorn did...doesn't seem to be stopping you from your bullshit accusations that they did.

 

[middleview]

You can argue about their tactics, but the fact is Project Veritas films people when they don't think they're being filmed, and this sometimes results in a truth being revealed that some would prefer to keep hidden. These aren't nuclear launch codes we're talking about - these are liars being caught in a lie.

Obviously, those so-exposed don't like it, and so the pushback.

Veritas has a habit of editing those videos. Why don't they release the unedited copy?
As near as I have been able to determine, it is because the full unedited interviews or clips tell a completely different story.

 

[georgephillip]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.th...s-protesters-trial-trump-inauguration-protest

Your link:

"Federal prosecutors targeting anti-Trump protesters are relying on video evidence from Project Veritas, a far-right group under fire this week for allegedly trying to dupe the Washington Post with a false story of sexual misconduct.

The US attorney’s office submitted the footage in court on Tuesday as part of an ongoing trial against activists who protested Donald Trump’s inauguration and now face conspiracy and rioting charges that could lead to decades in prison.

"Prosecutors played the video – which reportedly showed undercover footage from a meeting of activists – one day after the Washington Post reported that Project Veritas had sent a woman undercover pretending to be a victim of Roy Moore, the US Senate candidate accused of sexual misconduct."

Why would federal prosecutors rely on Fake News to garner convictions?

 

[Dino]

Veritas has a habit of editing those videos. Why don't they release the unedited copy?
As near as I have been able to determine, it is because the full unedited interviews or clips tell a completely different story.

Doesn’t truly matter unless you care to intend acorn members were convicted due to an edited video? Of course they weren’t, it was because they were crooked.

 

[as seen on tv]

1. I have no problem with reasonable ID requirements. Look for any post by me with "fingerprint". That was my suggestion.
2. You have no evidence of fraudulent votes cast as a result of anything Acorn did...doesn't seem to be stopping you from your bullshit accusations that they did.

we find common ground on voting ID.

the concept that it should be an order of magnitude more difficult to open a checking account or renew a drivers license than to vote is ridiculous.

I'm okay with fingerprint ID, but to be honest, is any polling place going to have the experts or technology for instant fingerprint verification?

most other civilized nations have "citizens id cards". this is a single, (mostly) secure method to vet everything from taxes, voting, driving privileges, car rental, welfare eligibility, and government health care access.

has anyone tried calling in to their health insurer recently? in order to even SEE my online file, I have to know a login, password, answer a secret question, then key in a one time "access code" which is texted to my cell phone within 5 minutes. Simply to determine if my health claim is accepted or not.

 

[Boca]

Using taxpayer funds to do abortions would be against the law...If there is evidence why hasn't the Trump DOJ done something about it? Why didn't the Bush DOJ?

Money is fungible you know? Mushrooms on the other hand are a fungus that grows in the dark.

 

[JuliefromOhio]

Those gullible repub/cons continue to send money to that con man O'Keefe even as he fails in his stings.....every time. Of course, they fell for the HUUGEST con man of all, Trump, so there's that.

… the people who are dumb enough to believe these conspiracy theories are not generally smart enough to carry out a competent entrapment scheme. O’Keefe attempted to impersonate a Detroit Free Press columnist at the polls, and failed, in part because the poll worker knew the Free Press writer personally. An elaborate effort to sting the League of Conservation Voters failed clumsily because the operatives left their recording devices sitting around. The “Canadians” who tried to entrap Hillary Clinton staffers into accepting “foreign” donations all gave the same phone number, which turned out to be from “Students for a Conservative Voice.” O’Keefe’s attempt to register the vote of a dead person accidentally used the identity of a voter who is completely alive. His attempt to impersonate a Hungarian donor to the Clinton campaign floundered when its catfisher forgot to hang up the phone and accidentally recorded a long message explaining the details of the operation.
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[middleview]

Can you show any federal funds were used for abortions? If you cannot then there is no illegal activity. It is my understanding that PP is audited on a regular basis to ascertain the source of money used to fund the abortion side of the organization.

 

[JuliefromOhio]

Sadly, your observation is lost on the High Priests of Party here.

How much money have you sent James O'Keefe?

 

[JuliefromOhio]

Very embarrassing what people do for their tribe. Criminal if you ask me.

James O'Keefe was prosecuted for criminal trespass (breaking into Sen Mary Landrieu's office) and put under house arrest for 1 year.
He live in his parents' basement. They should not have let their little sociopath son out after the year was up.