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Judy1

Judy1

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and be honest, please. If Obama had come out just hours after the Benghazi attack and identified a certain terrorist group as responsible for the attack because they were told it was posted on Facebook, would you have accepted it?
 
I think after Mutt's stunt they'd have found some way of taking it to where they've attempted to Judy. Thta's what has been so reprehensible about their efforts so far -- they're using this tragedy for the same political gain Mutt sought with that effort, and truth is always a victim if it gets in the way of their efforts.
 
Judy1 said:
Now do you see how ridiculous you sound?
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Of course it's ridiculous, but that's not the point. Fox News and their associates have been on a mission to create a counter-story to distract from Mitt's stupid remarks made on the eve of the event. This was all they could come up with. It doesn't have to be legit -- it only has to fit.
 
Judy, have you not been reading the posts made by cons? Have you not read any of my posts? We've talked.....you and I.......about this and this question looks as if you weren't paying attention at all to what I said.

What is being said..........by all cons I've listened to, seen, and by me...........over and over again........is that the Obama administration (preferably Obama himself) should have immediately (or within the first 24 hours) had a news conference and said something like this:

"Our compound in Benghazi, Libya has been attacked and our diplomat and three other men were killed [names there only if family has been notified] We regret that this terrible attack was able to be carried out and we are investigating it and will give information as it becomes available"

That and some condolence/ sympathetic remarks to the families is ALL that needed to be said. Instead, for two weeks they spread that video story that they KNEW was a lie. That was stupid. It was dishonest.

I have to ask....... Why did they spread that story they knew was a lie when they could have just said they were investigating and would tell us what happened as soon as they figured it out?

Why did so many of them tell the lie? Do you realize that videos are available for all of us to see that they lied now that the actual time line is out there? I made a post last night with videos by Jay Carney, Susan Rice, Hillary Clinton AND President Obama all lying ...... when time line shows they were actually lying. No question about it.

It is likely that nothing nefarious took place. BUT they lied to us for 2 weeks. And the MSM protected them. And Obama went out campaigning right after the Diplomat had been killed as if it was no big deal. If it were not for a couple real journalists that refused to play into the lie.......... they would have managed to keep it quiet.

And now it won't be investigated until after the election.
Convenient.

Hopefully you will read my post this time so you won't ask another question like this one.


Judy1 said:
and be honest, please. If Obama had come out just hours after the Benghazi attack and identified a certain terrorist group as responsible for the attack because they were told it was posted on Facebook, would you have accepted it?
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I don't sound ridiculous. Because you made up what you wanted cons to think and are snickering about something that never was said by anyone.

If anyone is ridiculous, it's you...... for not reading the posts I made and the posts of others who said something totally different than the silly scenario you made up so you could laugh at us.

Who is ridiculous now?
It's not me, dear.
Judy1 said:
Now do you see how ridiculous you sound?
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Judy1 said:
and be honest, please. If Obama had come out just hours after the Benghazi attack and identified a certain terrorist group as responsible for the attack because they were told it was posted on Facebook, would you have accepted it?
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Sure, why not?
 
What, precisely, was the lie? The witnesses say it was in response to the video, even tho it was an act of terror like President Obama said on 9/12. You keep prattling on about "lies", but cannot or will not specify what the lie was.
 
It had nothing to do with the video. And I'm sorry you felt the need to insult me (I don't "prattle")

Friday13 said:
What, precisely, was the lie? The witnesses say it was in response to the video, even tho it was an act of terror like President Obama said on 9/12. You keep prattling on about "lies", but cannot or will not specify what the lie was.
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JackDallas said:
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Originally Posted by Judy1
and be honest, please. If Obama had come out just hours after the Benghazi attack and identified a certain terrorist group as responsible for the attack because they were told it was posted on Facebook, would you have accepted it?
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Sure, why not?
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Even when it turns out that the Terorrist group actually did not take responsibility? LOL!!!

You would take a random facebook posting as "FACT" with no corroboration, only to be debunked later....


Sure you would.
 
Jen said:
There was no need for them to spin that stupid web of lies after that.
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WHAT "Stupid Web of lies"??

The only lying here is your claims about the lying. You have not been able to support ANY CLAIM you have made about the lies.

1) Yes Obama has SUSPICIONS it was not just about the video
2)Yes Regardless of whether it was about the video or anotuer source IT WAS TERRORISM and Obama called it that
3) When Rice said "the best information we have At this time" That was an ACCURATE STATEMENT
4) And we still do not have all the information

And you cannot factually refute ANY OF THAT.

And he should NOT have gone to Vegas to party. Period. What an insensitive cad.
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Why? Why should Obama stop campaigning when Romney did not? Why the double standard?
 
Jen said:
I don't sound ridiculous. Because you made up what you wanted cons to think and are snickering about something that never was said by anyone.
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No NS did not...we have all READ your posts. and they are ridiculous.

You claim that things that were "suspicions" were the same thing as knowlege
you claim that an unverified posting on Facebook is proof
You claim that uncorroborated and unverified witness reporting is FACT
You claim that what the Libyan President said After the attacks and which is nowhere corroborated IS FACT
You claim that the Embassador made requests HE NEVER MADE
You conflate the Embassy in TRIPOLI with the Consulate in Benghazi
You claim Obama Partied during the attack.. no that is false
You have claimed that somehow the Oval Office is better connnected than AirForce One... that is false

These are ALL things you have written in your posts

These are all things we have READ.

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Because like Donald "We know where the WMD Are" Rumsfeld... you don't seem to be able to distinguish between knowledge and belief
you don't seem to be able to distinguisn between allegation and corroboration
you don't seem to be able to distinguish between claim and verified claim.

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you posted that "Obama usually leaves the office by 4pm" when the daily schedule the WH posts refuted your claims.


FACTS JEN

VERIFIABLE FACTS
they matter.
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Lets try it this way. What should Obama have done diffrently? Tell us the timeline AS IT SHOULD have gone. What should have been said when?


Lets hear this.
 
Jen said:
Judy, have you not been reading the posts made by cons? Have you not read any of my posts? We've talked.....you and I.......about this and this question looks as if you weren't paying attention at all to what I said.

What is being said..........by all cons I've listened to, seen, and by me...........over and over again........is that the Obama administration (preferably Obama himself) should have immediately (or within the first 24 hours) had a news conference and said something like this:

"Our compound in Benghazi, Libya has been attacked and our diplomat and three other men were killed [names there only if family has been notified] We regret that this terrible attack was able to be carried out and we are investigating it and will give information as it becomes available"
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First off. Your claim here is false. The Conservatives have NOT been saying that it would all have been alright if only Obama came out and said some form of what you just wrote. Because in fact here is what Obama said within 12 hours: http://www.heraldextra.com/news/opi...cle_952555c2-1b3d-11e2-ba32-0019bb2963f4.html

Yesterday, four of these extraordinary Americans were killed in an attack on our diplomatic post in Benghazi. Among those killed was our Ambassador, Chris Stevens, as well as Foreign Service Officer Sean Smith. We are still notifying the families of the others who were killed. And today, the American people stand united in holding the families of the four Americans in our thoughts and in our prayers
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That covers your demand for

Our compound in Benghazi, Libya has been attacked and our diplomat and three other men were killed [names there only if family has been notified]​


Obama then goes on.
The United States condemns in the strongest terms this outrageous and shocking attack. We’re working with the government of Libya to secure our diplomats. I’ve also directed my administration to increase our security at diplomatic posts around the world.
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That covers your demand for
We regret that this terrible attack ​

Obama goes on to say
We’re working with the government of Libya to secure our diplomats. I’ve also directed my administration to increase our security at diplomatic posts around the world. And make no mistake, we will work with the Libyan government to bring to justice the killers who attacked our people.
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That covers your demand for
we are investigating it and will give information as it becomes available​

Then Obama says
No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for. Today we mourn four more Americans who represent the very best of the United States of America. We will not waver in our commitment to see that justice is done for this terrible act. And make no mistake, justice will be done.
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Which covers your demand for

at and some condolence/ sympathetic remarks to the families is ALL that needed to be said.​

So OBAMA DID EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAY HE SHOULD HAVE DONE... and yet you persist in lying that he did not

Instead, for two weeks they spread that video story that they KNEW was a lie. That was stupid. It was dishonest.
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Um no. This is where you go off into lying.

There is a difference betwenn suspicion and knowing.. unlike Donald Rumsfeld who "knew where the WMD were to the East and North of Bahgdad".. when actually he only BELIEVED that... Obama did EXACTLY what you asked.. he

give[gave] information as it becomes available​

And yet now you claim that doing so was lying.

you are fvcking pathetic.
 
Jen said:
It had nothing to do with the video. And I'm sorry you felt the need to insult me (I don't "prattle")
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Really? What actual EVIDENCE do you have that it had nothing to do with the video? That STILL is not verified. Remember the video had been on the internet for months. How DO you know that the person who organized the attack did not use that video as a recruiting tool?

Or is this like "Donald Rumsfeld" KNOWING where the WMD are? hmm?
 
Uhhh......question over here please?

NYT/NBC

Cairo -

Libyan authorities have singled out Ahmed Abu Khattala, a leader of the Benghazi-based Islamist group Ansar al-Shariah, as a commander in the attack that killed the American ambassador to Libya, J. Christopher Stevens, last month, Libyans involved in the investigation said Wednesday.

Witnesses at the scene of the attack on the American Mission in Benghazi have said they saw Mr. Abu Khattala leading the assault, and his personal involvement is the latest link between the attack and his brigade, Ansar al-Shariah, a puritanical militant group that wants to advance Islamic law in Libya.
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(That would be the same group that claimed responsibilty.)

But anyway...as opposed to saw, please tell us how an eye witness knows as a factual matter the motive was a video....in any crime for that matter?
 
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