Question for Democrats

[Jen]

How long does the list of mistakes and possibly illegal wrong doings of this administration have to be for a Progressive (or Liberal) Democrat for you to admit it just isn't right?

Let me expand this question. We all make mistakes. Every administration has made mistakes. Clinton bombed an aspirin factory. The Bush administration along with not just a few Democrats were mistaken about the WMD's held in Iraq and we went to war over it.

But the Obama administration has a growing list of mistakes that are not exactly those made on high levels where plenty of research is done, but mistakes that most rookies would be able to avoid. Here is a partial list:

• Obamacare...........requires we buy a product
• Recess job appointments made while Congress wasn't in recess
• Changes Obamacare (many times) after the law was passed.
  
• Benghazi........Obama sleeps while diplomat dies
  
• IRS..... auditing those who oppose Obama
• Veterans dying while waiting for care
  
• Reporters targeted/fired when they disagree with administration ........James Rosen, Juan Williams
• Tahmoressi held in Mexico.........ignored by administration
• Bergdahl, a possible deserter, traded for five top taliban officials without Congressional notification
• Susan Rice lying to the public once when someone else wrote the script, a second time when she was the script-writer

After a while, when the stupid mistakes keep mounting.............it seems like honest people would start feeling a little squeamish about having to use the "but he didn't know until he heard it on the news" defense yet again.

 

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But the Obama administration has a growing list of mistakes that are not exactly those made on high levels where plenty of research is done, but mistakes that most rookies would be able to avoid. Here is a partial list:

• Obamacare...........requires we buy a product
• Recess job appointments made while Congress wasn't in recess
• Changes Obamacare (many times) after the law was passed.
  
• Benghazi........Obama sleeps while diplomat dies
  
• IRS..... auditing those who oppose Obama
• Veterans dying while waiting for care
  
• Reporters targeted/fired when they disagree with administration ........James Rosen, Juan Williams
• Tahmoressi held in Mexico.........ignored by administration
• Bergdahl, a possible deserter, traded for five top taliban officials without Congressional notification
• Susan Rice lying to the public once when someone else wrote the script, a second time when she was the script-writer

it seems like honest people would start feeling a little squeamish about having to use the "but he didn't know until he heard it on the news" defense yet again.

So let's look at your view of "mistakes"....
1. It is a given that all of us will need healthcare at some time in our lives. Prior to Obamacare, a person could walk into an E/R and be treated for free. The payment would be made from funds supplied by taxpayers as well as increases in fees charged to those of us with insurance or those who were self insured. What was the alternative? Either a single payer plan or the one we got. Republicans contributed little effort in crafting a solution....We got a version of Romneycare/Heritage foundation health insurance. Is it a mistake? No.
2. Recess appointments....So the Senate minority leadership has a republican drop by every few hours so they can pretend they aren't in recess. It was a bullshit move. There were not enough senators there to cast a vote, but people like you are fooled into thinking they weren't in recess.....Again...it certainly wasn't a mistake and his appointments have stood.
3. Changes Obamacare. In fact the bill contains language that allows the President to postpone due dates. Again....not a mistake. No part of the bill has been altered.
4. Benghazi. Really? The attack began at 4pm EST. The ambassador was probably dead by 4:45 pm....and you think Obama was asleep? Flatly a stupid assertion.
5. Who was audited? The allegation was that the IRS held up applications for 501c4 tax exempt status for groups that appeared to be political....that was both right and left wing groups.
6. The VA. This is a troubling event, but was clearly happening before Obama took over and was discovered by an investigation that Shinseki ordered. It seems the practice of hiding the wait list started when the bonuses for regional and hospital administrators was tied to reducing the wait. Are you saying Obama ordered people to hide the wait list? The worst thing you can blame Obama for is not having discovered the fraud earlier.
7. Reporters fired and you think that is a mistake that Obama made?
8. The soldier in jail in Mexico is the one who made a mistake. Not Obama.
9. Trading Bergdahl only required notifying congress if Obama used DOD money to do it. Read the bill. Imagine the reaction if Obama had told congress...a leak hit the news and the Taliban killed Bergdahl....then what would you say?
10. There were several narratives as to what happened in Benghazi. The AP and Washington Times both reported that they'd interviewed Libyans who were there....guess what....they told the same story that Rice did.

So you got nothing. Find a real mistake to talk about.