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Corruptbuddha
Governor
Who knows?
If there is a God with the capability to create not only the Earth, but man and all that abides on Earth; how can we possibly know his designs?
We would be so far beneath a being of that stature as to be an amoeba in relation to a an eagle.
Not only do we not know, we cannot know.
If there is a God with the capability to create not only the Earth, but man and all that abides on Earth; how can we possibly know his designs?
We would be so far beneath a being of that stature as to be an amoeba in relation to a an eagle.
Not only do we not know, we cannot know.
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Doc
Guest
This is ONLY my THEORY and OPINION:
We are nothing less than "Baby Gods."
Yes, I know that many Christians (And, other religions...) have a fundamental problem with such an idea, BUT...to me, it makes all the sense in the world, and, ties up almost all questions about our existence....
Obviously...we still got some "evolving" to do. Culturally, Socially, Economically, and, DEFINATELY Spiritually.....
Gramps
Mayor
Very good, CB. Is that not one of the reasons religion thrives? Mortals seeking answers they might not even want to comprehend.
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Corruptbuddha
Governor
That's the exact reason.
We hate no 'knowing' the answers to these questions.
It grates on us.
We hate no 'knowing' the answers to these questions.
It grates on us.
GordonGecko
President
Jen's theory is interesting...for boiled down it would be "God was lonely".
However, if we accept the idea of a "SUPREME Being", in perfection...then such a being could not be lonely or NEED lowly mortals for anything.
Also, if you accept it, since God cannot relate to humans (even as "souls") since it would always be an imperfect, "lesser relationship" (unless we ourselves, as Doc theorizes, were to "become Gods too"), such a relationship would still not satisfy God's desires. We'd always be finite, "child-like" beings in relation to his infinite, perfect being.
Sort of like opening up a day-care center because you were lonely....doesn't really distract from the fact you don't have a date or a boy/girlfriend, no matter how "fun" the little kids are.
However, if we accept the idea of a "SUPREME Being", in perfection...then such a being could not be lonely or NEED lowly mortals for anything.
Also, if you accept it, since God cannot relate to humans (even as "souls") since it would always be an imperfect, "lesser relationship" (unless we ourselves, as Doc theorizes, were to "become Gods too"), such a relationship would still not satisfy God's desires. We'd always be finite, "child-like" beings in relation to his infinite, perfect being.
Sort of like opening up a day-care center because you were lonely....doesn't really distract from the fact you don't have a date or a boy/girlfriend, no matter how "fun" the little kids are.
GordonGecko
President
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Doc
Guest
"Jen's theory is interesting...for boiled down it would be "God was lonely".
However, if we accept the idea of a "SUPREME Being", in perfection...then such a being could not be lonely or NEED lowly mortals for anything."
--I have never heard that "Perfection" meant that one could not be "lonely." In fact, I have heard the direct opposite proposed: "It is lonely at the top." As for Humans not being able to "fill the bill" for companionship, alls I can say is that you must not be a pet owner.....
"Also, if you accept it, since God cannot relate to humans (even as "souls")"--(I have NEVER heard this idea proposed by ANY person who has "faith" in a Religion. JUST THE OPPOSSITE, in fact...)-- "since it would always be an imperfect, "lesser relationship" (unless we ourselves, as Doc theorizes, were to "become Gods too"), such a relationship would still not satisfy God's desires. We'd always be finite, "child-like" beings in relation to his infinite, perfect being.
--People LOVE their Children. In fact, the vast majority of the Human Species would DIE for their Children. (Hmmmmm...that sounds like somebody I know....)
Sort of like opening up a day-care center because you were lonely....doesn't really distract from the fact you don't have a date or a boy/girlfriend, no matter how "fun" the little kids are.
--So, what are you saying here, Gordo??? That some single woman, who has no boyfriend, or husband, finds no reward in working with children?
However, if we accept the idea of a "SUPREME Being", in perfection...then such a being could not be lonely or NEED lowly mortals for anything."
--I have never heard that "Perfection" meant that one could not be "lonely." In fact, I have heard the direct opposite proposed: "It is lonely at the top." As for Humans not being able to "fill the bill" for companionship, alls I can say is that you must not be a pet owner.....
"Also, if you accept it, since God cannot relate to humans (even as "souls")"--(I have NEVER heard this idea proposed by ANY person who has "faith" in a Religion. JUST THE OPPOSSITE, in fact...)-- "since it would always be an imperfect, "lesser relationship" (unless we ourselves, as Doc theorizes, were to "become Gods too"), such a relationship would still not satisfy God's desires. We'd always be finite, "child-like" beings in relation to his infinite, perfect being.
--People LOVE their Children. In fact, the vast majority of the Human Species would DIE for their Children. (Hmmmmm...that sounds like somebody I know....)
Sort of like opening up a day-care center because you were lonely....doesn't really distract from the fact you don't have a date or a boy/girlfriend, no matter how "fun" the little kids are.
--So, what are you saying here, Gordo??? That some single woman, who has no boyfriend, or husband, finds no reward in working with children?
NightSwimmer
Senator
Good question. You'd probably have to ask God's creator in order to learn the correct answer.
I know, Doc, that we have heard that God grieves when even a sparrow falls to its death. And I know that the grief I feel when I see a fallen bird or animal on the road is beyond just myself and I believe it to be that Spirit feeling the loss. Our eyes to the world are God's eyes. And I am certain of that.
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Doc
Guest
LOL, you would probably be the ONLY person on this board who would appreciate this, but, last night I watched an old Outer Limits episode, where some Spacefarers were going in to the newly discovered "Trans Space" in order to find quicker travel routes.
As time went on, they found out that they were in a "living Universe" which was full of a "life Energy" that actually bled through the "skin" between universes, resulting in LIFE in ours.
CRAZY concept that I have never really heard before.
Gave me lots of ideas!
As time went on, they found out that they were in a "living Universe" which was full of a "life Energy" that actually bled through the "skin" between universes, resulting in LIFE in ours.
CRAZY concept that I have never really heard before.
Gave me lots of ideas!
GordonGecko
President
Read some Sartre. You don't have to believe in unprovable supernaturalism to have meaning in your life.
GordonGecko
President
Doc, you agree that the feeling of "loneliness" is a negative one, yes? That it not something positive or something that people seek out as pleasurable?
If so...how can a PERFECT being experience a negative state?
If so...how can a PERFECT being experience a negative state?
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Doc
Guest
Very good question.
I have never thought of it that way. And, I am not so certain that I consider "loneliness" as a negative confluence. (Remember, for some, Lonliness is Solitude, and in that description, it becomes a POSITIVE!)
Either way, God could still be "infinately GOOD," yet, 'lonely.'
MANY lonely people are GOOD people.
Not many hateful people are good.
Not many lustful people are good.
Etc.
That is the pane through which I see good and evil.....
Lapcat
Governor
What IS this obsession you have of constantly attacking religion by calling it "unprovable supernaturalism"? There is a very good reason WHY it's called....
FAITH.
FAITH.
