Question

[Craig]

Some facts on the Baltimore riots.

It is Newsmax from this page,but worth the read. As I said the riots were premeditated through Social Media. The only thing I think is wrong is these riots are being planned by and organized gang.

http://www.newsmax.com/newswidget/1...dget&nmx_content=23&nmx_campaign=widgetphase2

First of all...it was not a switchblade. Secondly, his arrest record doesn't mean he should be treated in such fashion.

 

[MaryAnne]

First of all...it was not a switchblade. Secondly, his arrest record doesn't mean he should be treated in such fashion.

What was it?

Craig, I simply presented the other side of what happened. Grey did not deserve to die, but as to what the Mayor did to get CVS has not been mentioned in the so called Media. We all need to listen to both sides more often,instead of sitting in our cocoon.

Even you picked out one tiny portion and called it a lie. Do you know what the knife really was? I do not. This is the problem. We all concentrate on one tiny thing,instead of the whole picture.

I am guilty of the same thing. For instance, a person does something to hurt or upset you. Then you concentrate on that one thing instead of looking at the whole good that person does.

 

[Lukey]

Pay the parents of these children a decent wage so they can work ONE job and support the family instead of having to work two or three. Provide decent, affordable daycare so the parents can put their children into a safe learning pre-school environment and don't have to quit their jobs because they'll be arrested if they leave their children home alone. Provide decent housing and ensure that landlords keep up with the routine maintenance. Provide these three things and children grow up with adequate nutrition, well-rested and interested parents who have the time to spend with their children to ensure they are keeping up with schoolwork, and decent housing. Neglect these three, as we have been doing, and we get parents who are struggling just to keep food on the table and working too much to be available to the kids, kids who don't get decent pre-school education and spend too much time fending for themselves, and children who are living in a run-down tenement that their parents have neither the time nor the resources nor the tools to keep in repair.

People all over are pretty much the same - they want to be happy, they want happy healthy children, they want to feel like capable responsible adults. Take away that ability and pay them so little that they don't have time to spend taking care of their children's needs beyond food and clothing and shelter, and we have grinding poverty that turns out young adults that see no real future and, before they're mature enough to make good decisions, follow the road they see before them - that of continuing mere survival.

Hahaha! You lefties are all the same - every problem can be solved by throwing other people's money at it. How about we start by reducing welfare dependency so these troublemakers have to work instead of hanging around on the street thinking up how to cause mischief? Making people even less responsible for themselves isn't going to solve this problem...

 

[Craig]

What was it?

Craig, I simply presented the other side of what happened. Grey did not deserve to die, but as to what the Mayor did to get CVS has not been mentioned in the so called Media. We all need to listen to both sides more often,instead of sitting in our cocoon.

Even you picked out one tiny portion and called it a lie. Do you know what the knife really was? I do not. This is the problem. We all concentrate on one tiny thing,instead of the whole picture.

I am guilty of the same thing. For instance, a person does something to hurt or upset you. Then you concentrate on that one thing instead of looking at the whole good that person does.

It was a knife. A legal knife.

You presented a terrible article from Newsmax...It is full of misinformation, not "facts".

Believe me...I have concentrated on the whole picture.

 

[Addy]

they wouldn't take a job as a Pie taster in a pie factory.........why should they when welfare is promised..........take the welfare away and they will find a JOB


as proved now in NC

For some maybe, but imo, in general, most people had rather have work/employment for security along with the self respect and pride that comes from paying their own way.

 

[Addy]

Pay the parents of these children a decent wage so they can work ONE job and support the family instead of having to work two or three. Provide decent, affordable daycare so the parents can put their children into a safe learning pre-school environment and don't have to quit their jobs because they'll be arrested if they leave their children home alone. Provide decent housing and ensure that landlords keep up with the routine maintenance. Provide these three things and children grow up with adequate nutrition, well-rested and interested parents who have the time to spend with their children to ensure they are keeping up with schoolwork, and decent housing. Neglect these three, as we have been doing, and we get parents who are struggling just to keep food on the table and working too much to be available to the kids, kids who don't get decent pre-school education and spend too much time fending for themselves, and children who are living in a run-down tenement that their parents have neither the time nor the resources nor the tools to keep in repair.

People all over are pretty much the same - they want to be happy, they want happy healthy children, they want to feel like capable responsible adults. Take away that ability and pay them so little that they don't have time to spend taking care of their children's needs beyond food and clothing and shelter, and we have grinding poverty that turns out young adults that see no real future and, before they're mature enough to make good decisions, follow the road they see before them - that of continuing mere survival.

Well stated, Bobby. Simply put, it starts from the cradle.. raising a child into a decent adult. imo

 

[MrMike]

Baltimore is 2nd to only NYC in investment per child on Education. That hasn't worked.

The root problem is the ease of providing excuses for and lack of accountability for bad behavior and the destruction of the family unit.

Each of these are foundation (side effect) issues that are part and parcel of what the Liberals bring to society with their social policies and need to keep ethnic people in thrall to them via entitlements and other tactics that keep them outside of the general social fold.

The chance must start from within the black community itself (not seeking to make excuses, blame, whatever but a will to really change how they live and participate in society. Many have made that change, some refuse to and are pimped by race hustlers (Libs, Sharpton, Jackson, Wright, etc. etc.) who need to keep them in strife as a platform for their own ambition, power, greed.

And that...is reality that a government handout (program) cannot fix.

We are all watching the Demonstrations and the rioting. It seems a group is moving from city to city inciting the destruction.

My question is,how can we try to revive those inner cities that have been devestated by the loss of manufacturing and other jobs.

What do you think could be done to help the young jobless.?

What if Congress cut some of the bloated Military that can not even be audited? Take the money from useless programs. Where?

What if job plans were set up to provide training and decent jobs for the unemployed? Based on an updated version of the Civilian Conservation Corp that built our highways, planted saplings that are our huge forests of today? Helped stop the erosion that caused the drought.

Seed money would start the program,rebuild and refurbish the cities.

Please put aside your political views for this. We have a human problem not a political. Both parties are responsible for what we have now. What can we do? Positive responses will be appreciated.

Thanks

 

[Drumcollie]

Pay the parents of these children a decent wage so they can work ONE job and support the family instead of having to work two or three. Provide decent, affordable daycare so the parents can put their children into a safe learning pre-school environment and don't have to quit their jobs because they'll be arrested if they leave their children home alone. Provide decent housing and ensure that landlords keep up with the routine maintenance. Provide these three things and children grow up with adequate nutrition, well-rested and interested parents who have the time to spend with their children to ensure they are keeping up with schoolwork, and decent housing. Neglect these three, as we have been doing, and we get parents who are struggling just to keep food on the table and working too much to be available to the kids, kids who don't get decent pre-school education and spend too much time fending for themselves, and children who are living in a run-down tenement that their parents have neither the time nor the resources nor the tools to keep in repair.

People all over are pretty much the same - they want to be happy, they want happy healthy children, they want to feel like capable responsible adults. Take away that ability and pay them so little that they don't have time to spend taking care of their children's needs beyond food and clothing and shelter, and we have grinding poverty that turns out young adults that see no real future and, before they're mature enough to make good decisions, follow the road they see before them - that of continuing mere survival.

Doubling down on the same ol isn't going to work.

 

[Addy]

Baltimore is 2nd to only NYC in investment per child on Education. That hasn't worked.

The root problem is the ease of providing excuses for and lack of accountability for bad behavior and the destruction of the family unit.

Each of these are foundation (side effect) issues that are part and parcel of what the Liberals bring to society with their social policies and need to keep ethnic people in thrall to them via entitlements and other tactics that keep them outside of the general social fold.

The chance must start from within the black community itself (not seeking to make excuses, blame, whatever but a will to really change how they live and participate in society. Many have made that change, some refuse to and are pimped by race hustlers (Libs, Sharpton, Jackson, Wright, etc. etc.) who need to keep them in strife as a platform for their own ambition, power, greed.

And that...is reality that a government handout (program) cannot fix.

Brings to mind the adage, you can led a horse to water, but you can't make it drink...

Still, all of us know, the children are our future...

And the point is, an effort toward helping the disadvantaged in our country where we are supposedly the 'land of plenty' is still viewed as giving them needed/helpful
opportunites to a better way of life.
Children shouldn't be the ones to suffer no matter what their parents are failing to provide them with.
If their parents are so ill equipped to give them stability and guidance, the more govt/ society is needed to step up and help... educational tutors/ mentors/ community centers churches, and work programs, etc.

Your remark re entitlements/ social programs being political ploys for dem politicians is ironic, since I have seen charts on the red states as being those most in need/and receiving from the social programs.

Feel free to do your own search... easy to find links on the topic.

Red States Are Welfare Queens
Well, all of this tough budget talk from Republicans got me thinking about the central: who really benefits from government spending? If you listen to Rush Limbaugh, you might think it was those blue states, packed with damn hippie socialist liberals, sipping their lattes and providing free abortions for bored, horny teenagers.
The truth? Not so fast, Michele Bachmann.
As it turns out, it is red states that are overwhelmingly the Welfare Queen States. Yes, that's right. Red States — the ones governed by folks who think government is too big and spending needs to be cut — are a net drain on the economy, taking in more federal spending than they pay out in federal taxes. They talk a good game, but stick Blue States with the bill.
Take a look at the difference between federal spending on any given state and the federal taxes received from that state. We measure the difference as a dollar amount: Federal Spending per Dollar of Federal Taxes. A figure of $1.00 means that particular state received as much as it paid in to the federal government. Anything over a dollar means the state received more than it paid; anything less than $1.00 means the state paid more in taxes than it received in services. The higher the figure, the more a given state is a welfare queen.
Of the twenty worst states, 16 are either Republican dominated or conservative states. Let's go through the top twenty.
http://www.businessinsider.com/red-states-are-welfare-queens-2011-8

 

[Dawg]

I honestly believe money spent on reconstruction of blighted areas is pouring money down the proverbial rat hole. You could give most of those living there new homes and they wouldn't pay the utility bills, letting pipes freeze. They would refuse to maintain the property and in just a few years you would see trash piles in yards, broken windows, screen doors broken, carpet stained and never cleaned for years.... on and on and on.
Heard a "reporter" on NPR, today, explain why the Baltimore thugs had attacked CVS and the new mall. She said those things should never have been constructed there. "Those type businesses portray the big corporations who won't help us. They deserve getting robbed and vadalized!" What?? She also said it wasn't fair to have these new business buildings while the neighborhoods were in shambles. Lady, get off your "victim chair" and organize some folks to begin cleaning up the neighborhoods. Nope! Let's let the government do it for us. After all, they pay us to not work..........

and when the old HUD PROJECT that was destroyed and rebuilt opens, classes are giving on HOW TO-(1)wash dishes and put them in cabinets(2)sweep/ and/mop and use central vacuum system, yet, it's less than a year same project must be up-fitted again (always newer and better) over and over and over doe decades now.

 

[Dawg]

We are all watching the Demonstrations and the rioting. It seems a group is moving from city to city inciting the destruction.

My question is,how can we try to revive those inner cities that have been devestated by the loss of manufacturing and other jobs.

What do you think could be done to help the young jobless.?

What if Congress cut some of the bloated Military that can not even be audited? Take the money from useless programs. Where?

What if job plans were set up to provide training and decent jobs for the unemployed? Based on an updated version of the Civilian Conservation Corp that built our highways, planted saplings that are our huge forests of today? Helped stop the erosion that caused the drought.

Seed money would start the program,rebuild and refurbish the cities.

Please put aside your political views for this. We have a human problem not a political. Both parties are responsible for what we have now. What can we do? Positive responses will be appreciated.

Thanks

as happened in Africa when they took the farms away from whites and starvation arrived, maybe the problem is with the black leaders of inner cities........seems all lib inner cities are in same conditions.

maybe it Sharpton was arrested for tax evasion and couldn't bus thugs to one inner city after the next, could that solve much of the problems of burning down their own neighborhoods?

 

[Dawg]

All very good points,Dino, all true.
Of course the solution will have to be Political, but I just wanted answers such as yours.

Joe Scarborough was on a roll I agreed with this morning,that we need to stop rebuilding other Countries,cut the Bloated Military budget. Congress is trying to add more money to the Military and cut programs that are helping people,plus more tax cuts for the wealthy.

That is not working and needs to be changed.

Thanks for your answer. What do you suggest needs to be done?

evidently, People should first start helping themselves and stop expecting taxpayers to support them and their litter of kids from unknown baby daddies/mamas......

How do they expect to get out of present situations by bringing a baby into it they don't even want to support__________

 

[Dawg]

I agree. Close some military bases and use the money to start an inner city reconstruction program.

So, increasing unemployment due to closed military bases, will improve economy how?
Since 1965 there has been many inner city reconstruction programs and contractors have had eternal jobs due to as soon as one HUD Project opens, the first one's built must be torn down and rebuilt due to destruction by residents...........

Maybe after first baby daddy or baby mama kid, second baby= sterilization is mandatory.

 

[Dawg]

I like SW's suggestion and for those uninspired/unmotivated unemployed, also maybe offer them an incentive for signing up and staying the course with a new job.
Some young people need more encouragement than others.

Why is an incentive needed, shouldn't the Human already have an incentive to get out of what their parents dropped them into...............they already see selling drugs brings in much more $$$ than working a starting job at Mickey-D's..............and majority know that they can get welfare/food stamps and then ALL freebie gov has to give, so why work.

Don't they have black-berry patches in inner cities.........as a teen I would pick black-berries as fast as I can and sell them to neighbors for 50cent a gallon, prime tobacco, pick up hay in the fields @50cent@hour..........ANYTHING/ANY JOB just so I could save enough $$$$ to buy my first automobile.........( I knew no one was going to give me one for FREE)

 

[Dawg]

Wifey and I go round and round on this (for more than 2 decades). Pies, crisps, betties, and cobblers are FAR superior to cake.

She disagrees.

I need a good peach cobbler about now...still warm, a little lump of vanilla ice cream melting on top.

It's your fault, Dawg, for reminding me of yet another of my many weaknesses.
BAD DAWG!

well, I'm a PIE MAN and it's my duty to make sure PIE is alive and well.........☺

 

[Klunker]

So, increasing unemployment due to closed military bases, will improve economy how?
Since 1965 there has been many inner city reconstruction programs and contractors have had eternal jobs due to as soon as one HUD Project opens, the first one's built must be torn down and rebuilt due to destruction by residents...........

Maybe after first baby daddy or baby mama kid, second baby= sterilization is mandatory.

Military bases are one of the largest employers of civilian minorities. Maintenance, utilities, streets, housing... many have worked hard for lots of years and provided well for their families. Close bases and not only will we see many of our military in the unemployment line, but the civilian DOD employees will be left without jobs.

 

[Dawg]

Pay the parents of these children a decent wage so they can work ONE job and support the family instead of having to work two or three. Provide decent, affordable daycare so the parents can put their children into a safe learning pre-school environment and don't have to quit their jobs because they'll be arrested if they leave their children home alone. Provide decent housing and ensure that landlords keep up with the routine maintenance. Provide these three things and children grow up with adequate nutrition, well-rested and interested parents who have the time to spend with their children to ensure they are keeping up with schoolwork, and decent housing. Neglect these three, as we have been doing, and we get parents who are struggling just to keep food on the table and working too much to be available to the kids, kids who don't get decent pre-school education and spend too much time fending for themselves, and children who are living in a run-down tenement that their parents have neither the time nor the resources nor the tools to keep in repair.

People all over are pretty much the same - they want to be happy, they want happy healthy children, they want to feel like capable responsible adults. Take away that ability and pay them so little that they don't have time to spend taking care of their children's needs beyond food and clothing and shelter, and we have grinding poverty that turns out young adults that see no real future and, before they're mature enough to make good decisions, follow the road they see before them - that of continuing mere survival.

what a loaded diatribe..........."people all over are pretty much the same" if that is so why do majority of people only have the number of babies they know they can afford to support and raise? inner cities and now moving to rural America are baby daddies/mamas with multi-partners and a litter of babies that taxpayers must support/raise....................
As a teen I worked any job I could make a dime at and at 15 started as a carpenter helper and worked my ass off to become a Contractor.............I knew it was I that controlled my fate......not the governments or taxpayers.........btw: I've earned as much or much more than majority of college grads.

 

[Dawg]

Military bases are one of the largest employers of civilian minorities. Maintenance, utilities, streets, housing... many have worked hard for lots of years and provided well for their families. Close bases and not only will we see many of our military in the unemployment line, but the civilian DOD employees will be left without jobs.

Libs hate the military and would rather that money spent on the school drop-outs and dope dealing baby daddy/mamas...........
They think a college professor gave them FREEDOM

 

[Dawg]

Drum collie. I asked that this not turn into a political thread.

Your posts are just more of the same stuff.

We need to start working together instead of more hate everything you do not like. It is so easy to sit and critisize. Little harder to try and solve problems.

Thanks to those who posted constructively.

MA...we the people HAVE worked together to improve the lives of ALL.........every week gov took money from our pay checks to improve lives either through education/police-fire protection/road...that has helped Millions, but, you can't help those that will not help themselves and no amount of money can fix stupid.

 

[Dawg]

Some facts on the Baltimore riots.

It is Newsmax from this page,but worth the read. As I said the riots were premeditated through Social Media. The only thing I think is wrong is these riots are being planned by and organized gang.

http://www.newsmax.com/newswidget/17-things-baltimore-riots/2015/04/30/id/641793/?Dkt_nbr=1625A-1&nmx_source=Political_Jack&nmx_medium=widget&nmx_content=23&nmx_campaign=widgetphase2

it's how Sharpton makes his money and became a White House ADVISOR while owing Millions in back income taxes...............I once some how owed a few hundred dollars and IRS came down on me like buzzards on road kill.............sure glad I didn't owe Millions...........I'd be in prison.