Republicans need to think deep about the nuclear option.

[Spamature]

If you they do this. Then the majority can ram through anything they want. Now if the Dems get power they can ram through programs that the public will love as much as SS and Medicare. They will become the new untouchable /third rail / sacred cows in the budget. Do you really want that ? You're tied to Trump and as sure as the Titanic, he is going to sink. He's already showing up at 34% in some polls. That just 5 points above bush's lowest point. And bush did not sink that low until after he lied up into the quagmire in Iraq, then let a major city drown and then still crashed the US economy.

Do you really want to jump under the bus for this guy ?

 

[connieb]

If you they do this. Then the majority can ram through anything they want. Now if the Dems get power they can ram through programs that the public will love as much as SS and Medicare. They will become the new untouchable /third rail / sacred cows in the budget. Do you really want that ? You're tied to Trump and as sure as the Titanic, he is going to sink. He's already showing up at 34% in some polls. That just 5 points above bush's lowest point. And bush did not sink that low until after he lied up into the quagmire in Iraq, then let a major city drown and then still crashed the US economy.

Do you really want to jump under the bus for this guy ?

What are you talking about? It was Reid who changed the rules. The ONLY rule this is changing is for the SCOTUS. You already destroyed the Senate. And, no guess what the dems won't be able to ram anything through so long as Trump gets at least one other justice.. because there will be the SCOTUS to rein you guys in.

The primary reason I voted for Trump ( aside from the entertainment value of this epic meltdown) was for the SCOTUS. I don't care what else happens for the next four years. Stacking the court with constitutional conservatives all through the fed courts AND as many as we can pack on the SCOTUS is the only important thing.

The Republicans need to pour everything they can into winning and keeping the Senate. The house is theirs for the foreseeable future.

 

[Days]

Fake news and fake polls are getting to be such old hat, no one is listening.

what connie said... the courts are crucial to the ballast against an unruly legislature. So, all the more reason to go nuclear.

besides, who are you kidding? Its the Dems who are forcing the issue, the GOP would love to not go nuclear, just approve the judge already and you got it.

 

[Constitutional Sheepdog]

ok let thi.....
Thught about it long enough

 

[Spamature]

What are you talking about? It was Reid who changed the rules. The ONLY rule this is changing is for the SCOTUS. You already destroyed the Senate. And, no guess what the dems won't be able to ram anything through so long as Trump gets at least one other justice.. because there will be the SCOTUS to rein you guys in.

The primary reason I voted for Trump ( aside from the entertainment value of this epic meltdown) was for the SCOTUS. I don't care what else happens for the next four years. Stacking the court with constitutional conservatives all through the fed courts AND as many as we can pack on the SCOTUS is the only important thing.

The Republicans need to pour everything they can into winning and keeping the Senate. The house is theirs for the foreseeable future.

Fine.

But if we end up with cradle to grave guaranteed universal healthcare housing and income.

Don't say I didn't warn you.

 

[connieb]

Fine.

But if we end up with cradle to grave guaranteed universal healthcare housing and income.

Don't say I didn't warn you.

Avoiding that means stacking the court with constitutional conservatives... Right now, we can hope that Darth Ginsburg kicks it.. or that she can be impeached because she is no longer capable of performing her duties. But, you never know.. who may come down ill or with an unfrotuante accident.

And given that the Dems ramed through Obamacare... yes, of course they will ram through unpopular legislation.. that will result in them getting shellacked for several cycles to come. I only hope that by the time It happens I have managed to amass enough personal wealth in tax shelters that I can leave and take my modest fortune with me. This country, no longer represents the individualism and self reliance and independence that I believe in. It has been overtaken by hivists, who seek to collectivize and "share" i.e people who have done well for htem selves accept less so losers don't have to try. I much preferred the live or die by what you can do approach that served us well.

 

[Jen]

If you they do this. Then the majority can ram through anything they want. Now if the Dems get power they can ram through programs that the public will love as much as SS and Medicare. They will become the new untouchable /third rail / sacred cows in the budget. Do you really want that ? You're tied to Trump and as sure as the Titanic, he is going to sink. He's already showing up at 34% in some polls. That just 5 points above bush's lowest point. And bush did not sink that low until after he lied up into the quagmire in Iraq, then let a major city drown and then still crashed the US economy.

Do you really want to jump under the bus for this guy ?

Democrats invented the nuclear option.
It is available.
If it is used.................Dems will just have to suck it up.

 

[Capitalist]

If you they do this. Then the majority can ram through anything they want. Now if the Dems get power they can ram through programs that the public will love as much as SS and Medicare. They will become the new untouchable /third rail / sacred cows in the budget. Do you really want that ? You're tied to Trump and as sure as the Titanic, he is going to sink. He's already showing up at 34% in some polls. That just 5 points above bush's lowest point. And bush did not sink that low until after he lied up into the quagmire in Iraq, then let a major city drown and then still crashed the US economy.

Do you really want to jump under the bus for this guy ?

Where was all this introspection when dems passed the nuclear option?

 

[Spamature]

Avoiding that means stacking the court with constitutional conservatives... Right now, we can hope that Darth Ginsburg kicks it.. or that she can be impeached because she is no longer capable of performing her duties. But, you never know.. who may come down ill or with an unfrotuante accident.

And given that the Dems ramed through Obamacare... yes, of course they will ram through unpopular legislation.. that will result in them getting shellacked for several cycles to come. I only hope that by the time It happens I have managed to amass enough personal wealth in tax shelters that I can leave and take my modest fortune with me. This country, no longer represents the individualism and self reliance and independence that I believe in. It has been overtaken by hivists, who seek to collectivize and "share" i.e people who have done well for htem selves accept less so losers don't have to try. I much preferred the live or die by what you can do approach that served us well.

And Roberts could have another seizure like he did a while back and this time not survive. Thomas is getting on in his years. He might fall asleep during a hearing again and not wake up. Since he never asks question nobody would notice it anyway.

ACA has a huge margin of support. Not so with the GOP plan. Pass it and watch the even worse shellacking you gopers will get.

Yeah leave and find a non third world country that is less liberal than the US.

 

[Capitalist]

Avoiding that means stacking the court with constitutional conservatives... Right now, we can hope that Darth Ginsburg kicks it.. or that she can be impeached because she is no longer capable of performing her duties. But, you never know.. who may come down ill or with an unfrotuante accident.

And given that the Dems ramed through Obamacare... yes, of course they will ram through unpopular legislation.. that will result in them getting shellacked for several cycles to come. I only hope that by the time It happens I have managed to amass enough personal wealth in tax shelters that I can leave and take my modest fortune with me. This country, no longer represents the individualism and self reliance and independence that I believe in. It has been overtaken by hivists, who seek to collectivize and "share" i.e people who have done well for htem selves accept less so losers don't have to try. I much preferred the live or die by what you can do approach that served us well.

I only hope the GOP is prepared and has loaded a thousand nukes in its legislation machine gun. An opportunity like this will not come around again in our lifetimes.

 

[Dino]

If you they do this. Then the majority can ram through anything they want. Now if the Dems get power they can ram through programs that the public will love as much as SS and Medicare. They will become the new untouchable /third rail / sacred cows in the budget. Do you really want that ? You're tied to Trump and as sure as the Titanic, he is going to sink. He's already showing up at 34% in some polls. That just 5 points above bush's lowest point. And bush did not sink that low until after he lied up into the quagmire in Iraq, then let a major city drown and then still crashed the US economy.

Do you really want to jump under the bus for this guy ?

The Democrats have tainted the water, perhaps permanently...see filibuster rules and the passing of the ACA.

Now you get to reap the whirlwind.

 

[Spamature]

The Democrats have tainted the water, perhaps permanently...see filibuster rules and the passing of the ACA.

Now you get to reap the whirlwind.

The ACA was not filibustered. Brown sat it out and that was that.

 

[Dino]

The ACA was not filibustered. Brown sat it out and that was that.

No, it was not "filibustered" of course. It was passed in a treacherous dirty and totally unprecedented fashion though, helping to taint the legislative waters.

 

[Spamature]

No, it was not "filibustered" of course. It was passed in a treacherous dirty and totally unprecedented fashion though, helping to taint the legislative waters.

The GOP is going to try to use the same thing for their shite plan. Problem is your house is full of nuts that Ryan can't wrangle to go along with anything sane that would come out of the senate. IF something even does come out of the senate. I think that will also be a case of go nuclear or go home.

 

[Spamature]

Democrats invented the nuclear option.
It is available.
If it is used.................Dems will just have to suck it up.

That on you gopers. You were warned.

 

[JackDallas]

Fake news and fake polls are getting to be such old hat, no one is listening.

what connie said... the courts are crucial to the ballast against an unruly legislature. So, all the more reason to go nuclear.

besides, who are you kidding? Its the Dems who are forcing the issue, the GOP would love to not go nuclear, just approve the judge already and you got it.

We absolutely have to confirm Gorsuch for the USSC. Then we need to encourage Ginsberg to either resign, or cash in her chips, so we can put another American on the court. We need a minimum 6-3 majority (Americans vs Liberal whackos) on the Supreme Court.
Democrats have determined to oppose anyone and anything this President seeks to do. If they won't support a man like Judge Gorsuch, the Republican Congress should not let them have a voice in anything, from confirming a judge or cabinet nominee to what is on the menu in the Capitol cafeteria.

 

[connieb]

And Roberts could have another seizure like he did a while back and this time not survive. Thomas is getting on in his years. He might fall asleep during a hearing again and not wake up. Since he never asks question nobody would notice it anyway.

ACA has a huge margin of support. Not so with the GOP plan. Pass it and watch the even worse shellacking you gopers will get.

Yeah leave and find a non third world country that is less liberal than the US.

Indeed. That could all happen, and it would serve to let us put younger people on the court to protect against decades of leftist policies.

ACA does not have a "huge" margin of support. The THEORY of the ACA does.. two very different things. No one even experienced the GOP plan all anyone knew about it was the skewed and baised reporting on it. So, who knows what people would have thought about it if they had the chance to try some of it. Yes leftists whined about less money for medicaid.. but they are already dem voters.. so who cares.

It will be hard for sure to find a less liberal country- that is why I will happily just go to one where I can hide my money and have relatively low taxes. Even in third world countries rich people live pretty well.

 

[connieb]

I only hope the GOP is prepared and has loaded a thousand nukes in its legislation machine gun. An opportunity like this will not come around again in our lifetimes.

I think gutting the crap out of the departments is good. There will be no way for the Dems to reestablish the length and breadth of Gov't without raising taxes in the future...

 

[JackDallas]

Indeed. That could all happen, and it would serve to let us put younger people on the court to protect against decades of leftist policies.

ACA does not have a "huge" margin of support. The THEORY of the ACA does.. two very different things. No one even experienced the GOP plan all anyone knew about it was the skewed and baised reporting on it. So, who knows what people would have thought about it if they had the chance to try some of it. Yes leftists whined about less money for medicaid.. but they are already dem voters.. so who cares.

It will be hard for sure to find a less liberal country- that is why I will happily just go to one where I can hide my money and have relatively low taxes. Even in third world countries rich people live pretty well.

The UCA (Unaffordable Care Act) has only the support of those who get it for free.

 

[JackDallas]

The Democrats have tainted the water, perhaps permanently...see filibuster rules and the passing of the ACA.

Now you get to reap the whirlwind.

They are reaping that which they have sown.