Simply put...
- Thread starter Lukey
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It's a start. After all, if we're going to move a mountain, we have to start somewhere.
Bugsy McGurk
President
Feel free to add your additional deficit closing proposals.
But it's kind of daffy to oppose any one measure because that one measure, standing alone, would not close the entire budget deficit gap.
The world awaits your great ideas!
Lukey
Senator
So you are saying the tax increases on the middle class have to wait for after the election, when he has more "flexibility?"
Lukey
Senator
Aren't we just dancing around the obvious conclusion that there will be tax increases on the rest of us, but he has to wait until after the election when he has more "flexibility?"
I don't recall saying that.
In other news... I can't believe you really think the moon is made of cheese. That's incredibly ignorant considering we landed men on the moon, and they brought back rocks. Perhaps you are one of those freaks who thinks the moon landings are a hoax.
That's not what you claim in your top post. Are you changing your story already?
Zoar
Governor
What IS a stunt is the Republicans SO concerned about DEFICIT when the WARS Bush started CAUSED HUGE DEFICIT and everyone knew they would COST US TAXPAYERS TRILLIONS but the Republicans said IT WAS ALL NECCESSARY and did not cry deficit even ONCE!!!!
THAT is pure STUNT... and hypocrisy.
THAT is pure STUNT... and hypocrisy.
Lukey
Senator
Ah, the rhetorical equivalence of throwing sand in your opponent's eyes. So to summarize, Obama has no plans to fix the budget deficit absent this "tax the rich" scheme that will, at best, cover 3 to 5% of the deficit. That CLEARLY means the rest of us are in for some tax increases after the election. Rather than make a case for why I am wrong, you try and equate my supposition to believing that the "moon is made out of cream cheese." You may actually believe that he has a "secret plan" to balance the budget without (again) breaking his pledge to not raise taxes on the middle class. He HAS, however, already broken that pledge, so my surmisal that that's part of his "secret plan" actually holds water (unlike you lame "moon made out of cream cheese" deflection).
I wouldn't say that. Dems don't want all the Bush Tax Cuts made permanent. GOPs don't want all the tax cuts to expire or the $500B in Defense cuts that they agreed on last year to actually happen,which is what will happen on Jan. 1. GOPs have said extend all of 'em and do comprehensive tax reform next year,but they've already demonstrated that they won't honor agreements. You side with the GOP right now. You guys don't wanna negotiate a compromise. You guys want it all done your way. That's not how it works.
That may be what happens. Maybe not next year,but eventually it might. A lot depends as Pres. Obama said yesterday,on the outcome of the election. A lot depends on whether all parties are negotiating in good faith at any point in time. Can you say with certainty that will be the case next year? Nothing comprehensive can be passed right now and that may be the case next year too.
Bugsy McGurk
President
Your dodge is noted.
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Greenridgeman
Guest
How about getting that almost 50% of wage earners who pay NO Federal Personal Income Tax to pay, say, a minimal 5%?
After all, didn't Obama say we should all "have skin in the game"?
And how about ending credits, exemptions, etc, for people who have children they cannot afford.
Why should other people subsidize their breeding habits?
After all, didn't Obama say we should all "have skin in the game"?
And how about ending credits, exemptions, etc, for people who have children they cannot afford.
Why should other people subsidize their breeding habits?
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Greenridgeman
Guest
Why wasn't "something comprehensive" passed when the Democrats had the WH, House and Senate in their firm control?
Lukey
Senator
Both of those BOOSTED the deficit.
Lukey
Senator
Well, don't be surprised when the GOP starts running ads to this effect (tax increases on the middle class ahead).
