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Some sobering thoughts

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Bernard_Fokke

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Our hospitals/medical facilities are almost at the breaking point, (some already are) ,we've heard all about the shortage of ventilators, beds, hospitals room for patients, masks,and general supplies.

There's a call for the Corps of engineers to build or renovate new facilities to expand the ability to care for all the expected ailing people that need care. I'm sure they'll come through.

Where are the trained medical personnel to come from?

Those specially skilled people are a very finite resource and there's the critical bottleneck, you can have all the equipment in the world and the supplies and medicines but if there are no trained people there's a lot of people who will be shit out of luck if they get sick.

Like I said sobering thoughts, you may already be dead and not know it yet.
 
If they haven't already been mobilized,I am guessing that military Reserve and National Guard personnel with medical training will be utilized.
 
I think it is plausible that we're only five or six weeks away from a decent treatment regime that can potentially allow early interventions that keep (most of) the infected from progressing to a stage that requires serious medical treatment. At least I hope so, because if not, this is going to become a disaster on the order of the Great Depression. The key is to minimize government interference and give the private sector medical research industry a wide open field to run with the ball on.
 
bdtex said:
If they haven't already been mobilized,I am guessing that military Reserve and National Guard personnel with medical training will be utilized.
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I hope so too BD, but the things I'm hearing just from Cuomo today that they want a 100% increase across the board on all of the above to meet the perceived needs of the pandemic just in New York.

If you extrapolate across the country at , say just 50%, to me looks like a real serious shortage may be a horrible reality for the country.
 
Raoul_Luke said:
I think it is plausible that we're only five or six weeks away from a decent treatment regime that can potentially allow early interventions that keep (most of) the infected from progressing to a stage that requires serious medical treatment. At least I hope so, because if not, this is going to become a disaster on the order of the Great Depression. The key is to minimize government interference and give the private sector medical research industry a wide open field to run with the ball on.
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I think it could be worse, possibly world wide.
 
Many empty hotels that's one way China ended C-19 by putting infected in such instead of sending them back home to infect family members...…..

Medic's should be able to handle a cold.
 
Bernard_Fokke said:
Our hospitals/medical facilities are almost at the breaking point, (some already are) ,we've heard all about the shortage of ventilators, beds, hospitals room for patients, masks,and general supplies.

There's a call for the Corps of engineers to build or renovate new facilities to expand the ability to care for all the expected ailing people that need care. I'm sure they'll come through.

Where are the trained medical personnel to come from?

Those specially skilled people are a very finite resource and there's the critical bottleneck, you can have all the equipment in the world and the supplies and medicines but if there are no trained people there's a lot of people who will be shit out of luck if they get sick.

Like I said sobering thoughts, you may already be dead and not know it yet.
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More importantly, do you have an update on the ice cream situation at the White House?
 
Raoul_Luke said:
I think it is plausible that we're only five or six weeks away from a decent treatment regime that can potentially allow early interventions that keep (most of) the infected from progressing to a stage that requires serious medical treatment. At least I hope so, because if not, this is going to become a disaster on the order of the Great Depression. The key is to minimize government interference and give the private sector medical research industry a wide open field to run with the ball on.
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What we need is a national Manhattan Project-style federal research program to find a cure, coupled with a huge federal jobs program building hospitals and manufacturing ventilators and PPE.
 
EatTheRich said:
What we need is a national Manhattan Project-style federal research program to find a cure, coupled with a huge federal jobs program building hospitals and manufacturing ventilators and PPE.
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Yes, repeating the policies that delivered us into the Great Depression is exactly what we "need."
 
EatTheRich said:
The U.S. was already years into the Depression with double-digit unemployment before the New Deal programs that helped put people back to work and stimulate business.
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A) The "new deal" programs began before FDR took office - Hoover was referred to at the time as "the father of the New Deal." FDR simply took Hoover's ideas and put them on steroids.

B) Putting people (and businesses) back to work for the government is not in any way shape or form "ending" the "depression." Getting the private markets functioning again is - and that is NOT what the "New Deal" did.
 
Bernard_Fokke said:
Our hospitals/medical facilities are almost at the breaking point, (some already are) ,we've heard all about the shortage of ventilators, beds, hospitals room for patients, masks,and general supplies.

There's a call for the Corps of engineers to build or renovate new facilities to expand the ability to care for all the expected ailing people that need care. I'm sure they'll come through.

Where are the trained medical personnel to come from?

Those specially skilled people are a very finite resource and there's the critical bottleneck, you can have all the equipment in the world and the supplies and medicines but if there are no trained people there's a lot of people who will be shit out of luck if they get sick.

Like I said sobering thoughts, you may already be dead and not know it yet.
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38,000 americans died from season flu over the past 6 months. How come THAT didnt incapacitate the hospitals, but 2,000 corona deaths will? Statistically, this doesnt add up.
 
Raoul_Luke said:
A) The "new deal" programs began before FDR took office - Hoover was referred to at the time as "the father of the New Deal." FDR simply took Hoover's ideas and put them on steroids.

B) Putting people (and businesses) back to work for the government is not in any way shape or form "ending" the "depression." Getting the private markets functioning again is - and that is NOT what the "New Deal" did.
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Some people care more about whether working people are getting a paycheck than whether big business can continue with the antiquated practices of the past.
 
as seen on tv said:
38,000 americans died from season flu over the past 6 months. How come THAT didnt incapacitate the hospitals, but 2,000 corona deaths will? Statistically, this doesnt add up.
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It’s not gonna stop at 2000. Experts at UMass Amherst give a mean expectation of 200,000 ... and many more that will recover IF they can be hospitalized and given enough attention.
 
Mick said:
Back to blaming Trump for the coronavirus again? I thought we already schooled you guys on that one. Good lord.
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You haven't "schooled" anyone here. I asked you a question...you try to twist that into blaming him for the virus. Odd tactic, but certainly not going to get you any debate points. Try answering the question.
 
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