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So the east wing is still standing? Kind of a dumb thing to say, since we saw this

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Biden did not threaten to withhold American funding...it was a loan guarantee. There was no investigation into Burisma. Shokin was corrupt as hell....why would the US guarantee a loan that would be stolen by Shokin. Look up the Diamond scandal.

The Obama administration, the International Monetary Fund (IMF), and European allies wanted Shokin removed because he was widely viewed as corrupt and failing to prosecute official corruption. Shokin was subsequently ousted

Why talking to Ukrainian officials disproves the Trump narrative on Biden

Ukraine lies at the heart of the impeachment inquiry of President Donald Trump, who has urged the country’s new president to investigate the Biden family. Special correspondent Simon Ostrovsky, who has reported from the country for years, returns there to speak with officials and activists about...

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Biden did not start a war by attacking Iran backed militants in Syria for attacking US troops....any more than Trump did by assassinating Suleiman.

Trump didn't start a war? We managed to overthrow the government of Iran in1953. We put the Shah in power and the Savak help him rule the country from 1953 to 1979....and they were brutal. I'd guess Iranians think we were responsible for the brutal regime they endured.

Go back to page 6 and tell the folks posting about fentanyl....

Uh,edited. I guess you never heard of the concept of an American embassy being sovereign United States Territory.

US hostages in Iran face heightened risk as protests spread, experts say number held may exceed estimates

Iran's systematic hostage-taking policy targets American citizens as political leverage, with experts calling for automatic sanctions and consequences to combat the regime's strategy.

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The Towelheads committed an ACT OF WAR by violating our Embassy, and Carter was the most inept president of all time. Had there been a real president, those animals wouldn't have dared violate US Territory.


Pres. Obama ordered more military strikes than Trump. He also paid for the Wuhan lab that produced the weaponized COVID virus, which tanked the American economy. He GAVE Iran TWO BILLION DOLLARS IN U.S. TAXPAYER CASH. Iran used that money to advance it's nuclear program and financed the terrorists who attacked Israel on Oct 7. So Pres. Obama is a traitor and a supporter of international terrorism.

Geez! Do you EVER read anything other than THE VIEW?

 

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Uh, IDIOT. I guess you never heard of the concept of an American embassy being sovereign United States Territory.

US hostages in Iran face heightened risk as protests spread, experts say number held may exceed estimates

Iran's systematic hostage-taking policy targets American citizens as political leverage, with experts calling for automatic sanctions and consequences to combat the regime's strategy.

www.foxnews.com

The Towelheads committed an ACT OF WAR by violating our Embassy, and Carter was the most inept president of all time. Had there been a real president, those animals wouldn't have dared violate US Territory.


Pres. Obama ordered more military strikes than Trump. He also paid for the Wuhan lab that produced the weaponized COVID virus, which tanked the American economy. He GAVE Iran TWO BILLION DOLLARS IN U.S. TAXPAYER CASH. Iran used that money to advance it's nuclear program and financed the terrorists who attacked Israel on Oct 7. So Pres. Obama is a traitor and a supporter of international terrorism.

Geez! Do you EVER read anything other than THE VIEW?

I know all about the mob that seized the US embassy. Do you know anything about the government we overturned in 1953? Do you know how brutal the regime we installed was? Iranians endured the Shah until 1979....Was Carter indicisive? Yup. If he had attacked Iran would our hostages been in danger? Yes.
Reagan got the Iranians to free our people by selling them weapons.

The money going from EcoHealth Alliance to the Wuhan lab amounted to $600k and the funding went from 2014 to 2019...so two years of funding was while Trump was president. There is no evidence our money was used to create the Covid virus...in fact, the first covid patients and deaths were in China....did they intentionally kill their own people?

The money you think was taxpayer funds sent to Iran was actually their money. It had been frozen in 1979.

https://factually.co/fact-checks/politics/how-much-money-did-obama-send-to-iran-and-why-24d82a

Obama also got Iran to sign the JCPOA, which limited enrichment to 3% and enabled inspections of their nuclear facilities. Trump cancelled it. Enrichment zoomed to 60% and required a bombing campaign, the loss of 18 of our servicemen and killed thousands of Iranians.

I've never seen The View. It seems you have.

 

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I know all about the mob that seized the US embassy. Do you know anything about the government we overturned in 1953? Do you know how brutal the regime we installed was? Iranians endured the Shah until 1979....Was Carter indicisive? Yup. If he had attacked Iran would our hostages been in danger? Yes.
Reagan got the Iranians to free our people by selling them weapons.

The money going from EcoHealth Alliance to the Wuhan lab amounted to $600k and the funding went from 2014 to 2019...so two years of funding was while Trump was president. There is no evidence our money was used to create the Covid virus...in fact, the first covid patients and deaths were in China....did they intentionally kill their own people?

The money you think was taxpayer funds sent to Iran was actually their money. It had been frozen in 1979.

https://factually.co/fact-checks/politics/how-much-money-did-obama-send-to-iran-and-why-24d82a

Obama also got Iran to sign the JCPOA, which limited enrichment to 3% and enabled inspections of their nuclear facilities. Trump cancelled it. Enrichment zoomed to 60% and required a bombing campaign, the loss of 18 of our servicemen and killed thousands of Iranians.

I've never seen The View. It seems you have.

We did not overturn ANY government. ANYWHERE. Reagan got the hostages out YEARS before the alleged Iran Contra fairy tale.
The money sent to Iran was AMERICAN TAXPAYER CASH. Iran LOST that frozen money when they committed an act of WAR.
Iran WAS ENRICHING WEAPONS GRADE URANIUM, (initially given to them by Hillary KKKtlinton.) Had President Trump not intervened, there would have been ONE long range missile aimed at Tel Aviv and one aimed at the District of Columbia. That would have touched off World War III, which would have lasted five hours.

 

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We did not overturn ANY government. ANYWHERE. Reagan got the hostages out YEARS before the alleged Iran Contra fairy tale.
The money sent to Iran was AMERICAN TAXPAYER CASH. Iran LOST that frozen money when they committed an act of WAR.
Iran WAS ENRICHING WEAPONS GRADE URANIUM, (initially given to them by Hillary KKKtlinton.) Had President Trump not intervened, there would have been ONE long range missile aimed at Tel Aviv and one aimed at the District of Columbia. That would have touched off World War III, which would have lasted five hours.

Really? So Mohammad Mosaddegh was not overthrown in August 1953 and replaced by the Shah? Where do you get your information?

https://www.britannica.com/event/1953-coup-in-Iran

a group of senior Reagan administration officials in the Senior Interdepartmental Group conducted a secret study on 21 July 1981. It concluded that the arms embargo was ineffective because Iran could always buy arms and spare parts for its U.S. weapons elsewhere, while, at the same time, the arms embargo opened the door for Iran to fall into the Soviet sphere of influence as the Kremlin could sell Iran weapons if the U.S. would not.

Iran–Contra affair - Wikipedia

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Hillary gave Iran uranium? Got any evidence of that? In any case, the JCPOA limited enrichment to 3%...and all concerned parties reported Iran was in compliance until Trump canceled the agreement. By 2025 they were enriching to 60%...and that was Trump's fault....18 US kia.

In 2009 we supported a coup in Honduras. In 1954 we supported a coup in Guatemala.

PS....The money sent to Iran had not been confiscated...it was frozen. There was a case before the world court that the US was about to lose....we released less than they would have won in the court.

 

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Really? So Mohammad Mosaddegh was not overthrown in August 1953 and replaced by the Shah? Where do you get your information?

https://www.britannica.com/event/1953-coup-in-Iran

a group of senior Reagan administration officials in the Senior Interdepartmental Group conducted a secret study on 21 July 1981. It concluded that the arms embargo was ineffective because Iran could always buy arms and spare parts for its U.S. weapons elsewhere, while, at the same time, the arms embargo opened the door for Iran to fall into the Soviet sphere of influence as the Kremlin could sell Iran weapons if the U.S. would not.

Iran–Contra affair - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Hillary gave Iran uranium? Got any evidence of that? In any case, the JCPOA limited enrichment to 3%...and all concerned parties reported Iran was in compliance until Trump canceled the agreement. By 2025 they were enriching to 60%...and that was Trump's fault....18 US kia.

In 2009 we supported a coup in Honduras. In 1954 we supported a coup in Guatemala.

You haven't proven WE had anything to do with the Shah coming to power in Iran.

You've LOST all those arguments, YEARS ago; and it looks pathetic that you bring them up in a thread about slavery. And you wonder why everyone thinks liberals are so stupid.

 

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You haven't proven WE had anything to do with the Shah coming to power in Iran.

You've LOST all those arguments, YEARS ago; and it looks pathetic that you bring them up in a thread about slavery. And you wonder why everyone thinks liberals are so stupid.

You posted this...in a thread about slavery....
And America elected Donald Trump THREE times for the office of president, though voter fraud denied him the second landslide victory. And we saw how disastrous that turned out.

A large number of your posts in this thread are off topic....

 

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You posted this...in a thread about slavery....
And America elected Donald Trump THREE times for the office of president, though voter fraud denied him the second landslide victory. And we saw how disastrous that turned out.

A large number of your posts in this thread are off topic....

Pretty much the thread drifted. If you'd like to return to the original argument in this thread about slavery (which you had LOST) I've got no problem.

I'm not happy watching thread drift, especially when it's one of my brilliantly conceived threads. I know it was lazy for me to just play along with the drift and not report the thread drift to the mods.

I'll return to the original concept.



Does that mean the idiots looking for slave reparations from Whitey will have to get it from their own race? Kamala's ancestors traded slaves.

https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/...escendant-of-an-irish-slave-owner-in-jamaica/

Kamala Harris is a descendant of an Irish slave owner in Jamaica ​

Presumptive Democratic nominee and US vice-president Kamala Harris has Irish roots but not in a way that she is likely to embrace.

Ms Harris is the daughter of Donald J Harris, who was born in Jamaica, and Shyamala Gopalan Harris from India.

Genealogical research carried out by Northern Irish historian Stephen McCracken reveals Ms Harris’s four-times-paternal-great-grandfather Hamilton Brown was born in Co Antrim in 1776, the year of the US Declaration of Independence.

Brown emigrated to Jamaica, then a British colony, and became an enthusiastic slave owner on the sugar plantations that were the mainstay of the island’s economy. He opposed the abolition of slavery across the British Empire in 1832 and went to Antrim to replace his slaves with workers from his native county.

Gee! Imagine if Trump had slave owners in his ancestry!

 

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Pretty much the thread drifted. If you'd like to return to the original argument in this thread about slavery (which you had LOST) I've got no problem.

I'm not happy watching thread drift, especially when it's one of my brilliantly conceived threads. I know it was lazy for me to just play along with the drift and not report the thread drift to the mods.

I'll return to the original concept.

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Does that mean the idiots looking for slave reparations from Whitey will have to get it from their own race? Kamala's ancestors traded slaves.

https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/...escendant-of-an-irish-slave-owner-in-jamaica/

Kamala Harris is a descendant of an Irish slave owner in Jamaica ​

Presumptive Democratic nominee and US vice-president Kamala Harris has Irish roots but not in a way that she is likely to embrace.

Ms Harris is the daughter of Donald J Harris, who was born in Jamaica, and Shyamala Gopalan Harris from India.

Genealogical research carried out by Northern Irish historian Stephen McCracken reveals Ms Harris’s four-times-paternal-great-grandfather Hamilton Brown was born in Co Antrim in 1776, the year of the US Declaration of Independence.

Brown emigrated to Jamaica, then a British colony, and became an enthusiastic slave owner on the sugar plantations that were the mainstay of the island’s economy. He opposed the abolition of slavery across the British Empire in 1832 and went to Antrim to replace his slaves with workers from his native county.

Gee! Imagine if Trump had slave owners in his ancestry!

There were about 5 million whites in the Southern States in 1860. There were about 3.5 million slaves.

 

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We know that whitey did not go into the African jungles to capture black slaves. Africans sold each other into slavery.

I have a business prof from Nigeria, while in college. In one of his less benevolent moods, he said he had contempt for American blacks, saying they were stupid enough to get sold into slavery.

Does he think there are still people alive who were slaves back in 1860? I have contempt for those who offer up silly posts about some mythical professor from Nigeria commenting about slaves when there have not been any survivors of slavery in the US for decades.

 

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That's because you are an uneducated idiot who never made it past middle school. And you're too much a BIGOT to imagine that an African National could have LEGALLY emigrated to America, graduated college and became a college business professor.

And YOUR GOOSE STEPPING OVERLY ENTITLED SIDE OF THE AISLE is wanting REPARATIONS for people today who were NEVER slaves. You've got ZERO room to talk, Adolf.

1. The "professor" you quoted called the African American population stupid for having been made slaves....although, none of them alive today were slaves....so just how smart is the professor?
2. I have never supported reparations for anyone...including the rioters on Jan 6....

 

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Well, if the reparations crowd wants money from the slave market, here are the top producers, AND THEY STILL SELL SLAVES TODAY.

Nigeria is a DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP pocket. Royal Dutch Shell has locations there.

It was the United States government that allowed slavery in this country. Slavery is the theft of labor. Slavery allowed slave owners to profit from rape by selling their own offspring. It allowed for torture and murder to be used as tools for compliance.

This government paid reparation. It paid them to slave owners for the loss of their slaves. They were the reparations crowd you speak of. They felt they were owed because they could no longer steal the labor of others, and this government agreed with that. It seems hypocritical for the victims to be left with nothing while the perpetrators were compensated for their inability to continue their atrocities.

As for scale, there were 31 million people in the US at the height of slavery. Yet there were almost as many slaves here as those 10 countries you listed combined.

As for Black slave ownership, most of those slave owners were half white. While most of the fully Black slave owners owned their own family members, on paper, because the law would not allow them to be bought and freed.

 

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You haven't proven WE had anything to do with the Shah coming to power in Iran.

You've LOST all those arguments, YEARS ago; and it looks pathetic that you bring them up in a thread about slavery. And you wonder why everyone thinks liberals are so stupid.

In first, CIA acknowledges 1953 coup it backed to overthrow leader of Iran was undemocratic​

In first, CIA acknowledges 1953 coup it backed to overthrow leader of Iran was undemocratic

While other American officials have made similar remarks in the past, the acknowledgment by the CIA in a podcast about the agency’s history comes as much of its official history of the coup still remains classified 70 years after the putsch.

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In first, CIA acknowledges 1953 coup it backed to overthrow leader of Iran was undemocratic​

In first, CIA acknowledges 1953 coup it backed to overthrow leader of Iran was undemocratic

While other American officials have made similar remarks in the past, the acknowledgment by the CIA in a podcast about the agency’s history comes as much of its official history of the coup still remains classified 70 years after the putsch.

www.pbs.org

You're not even smart enough to argue without changing the subject.

 

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1. The "professor" you quoted called the African American population stupid for having been made slaves....although, none of them alive today were slaves....so just how smart is the professor?
2. I have never supported reparations for anyone...including the rioters on Jan 6....

Un, you are a LIAR. The professor said they were descendants of blacks too incompetent to avoid being sold into slavery. Just in case you need to be brought up to speed, that's the attitude of most of Africa today.

AND AFRICA STILL HAS SLAVERY.

 

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You're not even smart enough to argue without changing the subject.

You posted this. I answered you. You can't even admit you were wrong.
You haven't proven WE had anything to do with the Shah coming to power in Iran

 

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Un, you are a LIAR. The professor said they were descendants of blacks too incompetent to avoid being sold into slavery. Just in case you need to be brought up to speed, that's the attitude of most of Africa today.

AND AFRICA STILL HAS SLAVERY.

From your post.....
he said he had contempt for American blacks, saying they were stupid enough to get sold into slavery.

I don't see the word descendants..do you?