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take down the confederate flag

JuliefromOhio

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that's the word from many Republicans.

http://www.newrepublic.com/article/122087/conservatives-think-south-carolina-should-take-down-confederate-flag

South Carolina Republican State Rep. Norman "Doug" Brannon plans to introduce a bill to take down the confederate flag.

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/06/s-carolina-lawmaker-announces-bill-calling-for-confederate-flag-to-be-taken-down/

Russell Moore of the Southern Baptist Convention says it's time to take down the confederate flag.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...-confederate-flag/?postshare=5091434751606489
 
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http://www.heraldonline.com/news/state/south-carolina/article25054114.html
 
Mitt Romney also voiced his support for the removal of the flag, writing on Twitter, “Take down the #ConfederateFlag at the SC Capitol. To many, it is a symbol of racial hatred. Remove it now to honor #Charleston victims.”

granted, Romney's use of "To many...." is cowardly.
 
Just curious... (and I don't care either way).

Do you feel that if the Confederate flag is removed, racist crimes might be reduced and perhaps eventually stop?

I'm pretty familiar with the blame the gun concept, but blaming a piece of fabric is a new one.

edit: I wonder if that ban the flag thingy would work for ISIS?
 
MrMike said:
Just curious... (and I don't care either way).

Do you feel that if the Confederate flag is removed, racist crimes might be reduced and perhaps eventually stop?

I'm pretty familiar with the blame the gun concept, but blaming a piece of fabric is a new one.

edit: I wonder if that ban the flag thingy would work for ISIS?
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I don't think the point is to reduce crime in any direct way. I think it's a matter of respect. I don't live in SC; I think the people there should decide.
 
MrMike said:
Just curious... (and I don't care either way).

Do you feel that if the Confederate flag is removed, racist crimes might be reduced and perhaps eventually stop?

I'm pretty familiar with the blame the gun concept, but blaming a piece of fabric is a new one.

edit: I wonder if that ban the flag thingy would work for ISIS?
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That flag isn't responsible for crimes.
My thought is that people need to grow the f up and get over blaming inanimate objects for crimes that people commit.
 
Jen said:
That flag isn't responsible for crimes.
My thought is that people need to grow the f up and get over blaming inanimate objects for crimes that people commit.
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right? like Korans. what's the point in burning them?
 
JuliefromOhio said:
that's the word from many Republicans.

http://www.newrepublic.com/article/122087/conservatives-think-south-carolina-should-take-down-confederate-flag

South Carolina Republican State Rep. Norman "Doug" Brannon plans to introduce a bill to take down the confederate flag.

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/06/s-carolina-lawmaker-announces-bill-calling-for-confederate-flag-to-be-taken-down/

Russell Moore of the Southern Baptist Convention says it's time to take down the confederate flag.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2015/06/19/southern-baptists-russell-moore-its-time-to-take-down-the-confederate-flag/?postshare=5091434751606489
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It represents the past and is a constant reminder of ill will... Pres Obama has it right, it belongs in a museum.
 
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MrMike said:
Just curious... (and I don't care either way).

Do you feel that if the Confederate flag is removed, racist crimes might be reduced and perhaps eventually stop?

I'm pretty familiar with the blame the gun concept, but blaming a piece of fabric is a new one.

edit: I wonder if that ban the flag thingy would work for ISIS?
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the confederate flag is a symbol of the continued racism in America. it wouldn't hurt to remove it. on a side note, the SCOTUS just ruled that Texas can refuse to allow confederate flags on vanity license plates. that's a good move.

as for individuals, to combat racism, one first must be conscious of it, then personally challenge it.....every day for the rest of one's life.
the denial about racism from the rightwing is not helpful.
 
JuliefromOhio said:
the confederate flag is a symbol of the continued racism in America. it wouldn't hurt to remove it. on a side note, the SCOTUS just ruled that Texas can refuse to allow confederate flags on vanity license plates. that's a good move.

as for individuals, to combat racism, one first must be conscious of it, then personally challenge it.....every day for the rest of one's life.
the denial about racism from the rightwing is not helpful.
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Only to those of you who try to make it so.
 
JuliefromOhio said:
the confederate flag is a symbol of the continued racism in America. it wouldn't hurt to remove it. on a side note, the SCOTUS just ruled that Texas can refuse to allow confederate flags on vanity license plates. that's a good move.

as for individuals, to combat racism, one first must be conscious of it, then personally challenge it.....every day for the rest of one's life.
the denial about racism from the rightwing is not helpful.
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I'd make it comparible to the fist in the air "Black Power/Black Panther" salute used by many blacks still today as "Black Pride".

To others races, especially white victims, they might not be able to get over much of the violent imagery and actions by the Panthers. To them, the fist means black power.

However, the symbol has evolved, and nobody has cried any foul when the salute is raised.

In the same way, the Stars and Bars certainly has nothing to do with slavery today. People simply choose to be ignorant of its meaning by not asking the people who fly it what it means today. Meanwhile, there's plenty of information available to find this out.

This is just more American Liberal South bashing, nothing new.
 
Mr. Friscus said:
I'd make it comparible to the fist in the air "Black Power/Black Panther" salute used by many blacks still today as "Black Pride".

To others races, especially white victims, they might not be able to get over much of the violent imagery and actions by the Panthers. To them, the fist means black power.

However, the symbol has evolved, and nobody has cried any foul when the salute is raised.

In the same way, the Stars and Bars certainly has nothing to do with slavery today. People simply choose to be ignorant of its meaning by not asking the people who fly it what it means today. Meanwhile, there's plenty of information available to find this out.

This is just more American Liberal South bashing, nothing new.
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You might have a point if that raised fist was in celebration of having enslaved another group. It isn't. It's in celebration of having overcome.
 
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