The Apocalypse

[Arkady]

You , Sir need to learn how to read, your reading comprehension skills are lacking. I never at any time said the actual word anti-christ was mentioned in either Revelation or Daniel. I said that these prophesies were intended to tell early Christians to have faith and believe, further I stated that in Revelation it told of what was to happen to the world.

Anti-Christ or that actual word anti-christ is mentioned only four times in the New Testament in the first two books of John. There after in Revelation for example he is referred to as the beast.

You are just another lost and diluted far far left wing progressive socialist that continues to make baseless assumptions and accuses people of things they know little to nothing about. In other words a complete idiot.

No, little one, you're the person who needs to work on reading comprehension. "In the books of Daniel as well as Revelation in the Bible it speaks of an anti-christ." It doesn't. Those books speak of many things, but never of an anti-christ. That is a misunderstanding popular among evangelical conservatives, who get their theology from functionally illiterate pastors and the "Left Behind" series, rather than through serious theological study or even a simple read-through of the Bible itself.

 

[Queen Titania]

Apocalypse is actually a Greek word. It does not mean the end of days. It's literal and actual meaning is the revealing, in Greek it means the pulling back of the certain. John the author of the book of Revelation in the Bible used this word as a kind of code when he wrote to the seven churches. His intent was to reveal what was in store for Christians of the early church as well at what was in store for the world. A divine message brought to him by an angel of God.
In the books of Daniel as well as Revelation in the Bible it speaks of an anti-christ. This anti-christ is described as a very eloquent speaker, a spender of very large sums of money, a controller of the economy. The anti-christ says he wants everyone to have everything they need, no mention of work that is necessary to obtain these things. The anti-christ is the great deceiver, his real agenda is hidden, little is actually known about his past or where he was actually born or came from as this information has been hidden and sealed. It says that in his seventh year of rule his true agenda will be revealed. It says that this man will cause destruction and suffering on a scale never before seen.

Sound familiar, it should.

http://gnosis.org/naghamm/nhl_sbj.htm


http://gnosis.org/naghamm/apocjn.html

 

[TwoWitnesses]

Just stopped back by and read what you wrote. You are right, you never said you were a Christian, just made a baseless claim from the Holy Bible, and it doesn't take an einstein to read exactly what you have said. Call me an idiot if you want, I can take it, because I'm a Christian. You aren't.

 

[BitterPill]

You obviously know very little about why the book of Revelation was actually written the way it was. Your total and complete lack of knowledge is showing yet again. Not surprising as you are an Obummer worshiper.
Let me enlighten you, when the book was actually written, somewhere between 61 AD and 90 AD the empire of Rome was in control of much of the world. The leader of Rome, commonly referred to as their Caesar considered himself to be a living God. He demanded that Roman citizens even worship him. He was very oppressive towards the new Christian church. Many Christians were killed and tortured, others were crucified because they believed in Jesus Christ. The book of Revelation was written in Greek not Latin and it was written the way it was written for a reason. The author knew the Romans would eventually read this text so it was written in a kind of code, with many symbols, numerology, and descriptive dialog designed to be extremely difficult to encrypt even for a Roman, because average Romans were in fact not Christians. Most likely only Christians of that period had the knowledge and ability to even actually understand the book.

No one was on an acid trip and if you had any idea about what you were actually talking about you would be worth listening to. Unfortunately, like so many on the far far left that are progressive socialists many of you are ignorant beyond measure. You only know to ridicule or accuse with baseless facts or truths if you are even remotely challenged or criticized. I find most of you pathetic and not worth the time it even takes to read your diluted and often insulting posts.

You are deluded, especially your name.

 

[American Patriot]

You beat me to it! In fact, the only Biblical references to an anti-christ are in John.

Had you taken time to actually read the posts, you would have discovered that I explained this subject in detail. The actual literal word anti-christ is mentioned only four times in the entire Bible in John 1 and John 2. However, Biblical scholars agree that inferences like the word beast, demon, ect are in fact implicit references to the anti-christ.
For the rest of you num nuts the study of theology has to do with religious ideology, philosophy, and known history of religions. As far as Christianity is concerned it would mean studying the Bible, who the authors of the various books were, the history of the early church, How books were made into the cannon. You do not need a direct line with God to study these things. They are taught everyday in colleges and universities across America.
It fascinates me to see so many on the far far left become literally enraged when they are caught with their pants on the ground. You will make wild accusations, spew false and untrue assumptions, do anything to save face.
Actually, my post never mentioned Obummer, that was the point of the post . To see how many of you wide eyed left wing wonders made the assumption on your own. Almost all of you did that very thing. Proving beyond doubt that you make assumptions and accusations on a scale that is unprecedented. When you are cornered or made fools of you do exactly what has happened here, go flying off on wild and unrelated tangents that have little relevance and even less meaning or value to actual subject matter.

Lastly, I never at any time said nor claimed to be a Christian, you again made that assumption like so many others. I at no time claimed to have direct contact with God, another false and totally absurd assumption on your demented part. It is quite obvious that your frustrations and anger is primarily generated from the fact that it was You all who assumed I was talking about Obummer when in fact I never mentioned his name. So you felt the need to lash out as you always do. I find most of you not very well educated, in fact quite ignorant in most cases on top of being continuously pathetic.

 

[Queen Titania]

Had you taken time to actually read the posts, you would have discovered that I explained this subject in detail. The actual literal word anti-christ is mentioned only four times in the entire Bible in John 1 and John 2. However, Biblical scholars agree that inferences like the word beast, demon, ect are in fact implicit references to the anti-christ.
For the rest of you num nuts the study of theology has to do with religious ideology, philosophy, and known history of religions. As far as Christianity is concerned it would mean studying the Bible, who the authors of the various books were, the history of the early church, How books were made into the cannon. You do not need a direct line with God to study these things. They are taught everyday in colleges and universities across America.
It fascinates me to see so many on the far far left become literally enraged when they are caught with their pants on the ground. You will make wild accusations, spew false and untrue assumptions, do anything to save face.
Actually, my post never mentioned Obummer, that was the point of the post . To see how many of you wide eyed left wing wonders made the assumption on your own. Almost all of you did that very thing. Proving beyond doubt that you make assumptions and accusations on a scale that is unprecedented. When you are cornered or made fools of you do exactly what has happened here, go flying off on wild and unrelated tangents that have little relevance and even less meaning or value to actual subject matter.

Lastly, I never at any time said nor claimed to be a Christian, you again made that assumption like so many others. I at no time claimed to have direct contact with God, another false and totally absurd assumption on your demented part. It is quite obvious that your frustrations and anger is primarily generated from the fact that it was You all who assumed I was talking about Obummer when in fact I never mentioned his name. So you felt the need to lash out as you always do. I find most of you not very well educated, in fact quite ignorant in most cases on top of being continuously pathetic.

By its own declaration, the Secret Book of John is a sacred text intended to be shared only with individuals properly prepared to receive its revelation. In second-century Christian communions circulation of the text probably remained restricted. Amazingly, despite limited circulation and the effective later efforts by evolving Christian orthodoxy to destroy all such “heretical” scriptures, four separate manuscripts of the SBJ have survived into our own age. Three of these were found among the Nag Hammadi codices discovered in 1945, while a fourth copy was independently recovered fifty years earlier from another site in Egypt. All four versions date to the fourth century. Three of the four appear to be independently produced Coptic translations of an original text in Greek. Two of the four manuscripts (NHC II and NHC IV) are so similar that they most likely represent copies of a single

http://gnosis.org/naghamm/nhl_sbj.htm

 

[American Patriot]

By its own declaration, the Secret Book of John is a sacred text intended to be shared only with individuals properly prepared to receive its revelation. In second-century Christian communions circulation of the text probably remained restricted. Amazingly, despite limited circulation and the effective later efforts by evolving Christian orthodoxy to destroy all such “heretical” scriptures, four separate manuscripts of the SBJ have survived into our own age. Three of these were found among the Nag Hammadi codices discovered in 1945, while a fourth copy was independently recovered fifty years earlier from another site in Egypt. All four versions date to the fourth century. Three of the four appear to be independently produced Coptic translations of an original text in Greek. Two of the four manuscripts (NHC II and NHC IV) are so similar that they most likely represent copies of a single

http://gnosis.org/naghamm/nhl_sbj.htm

Thank you , Professor, for your keen insight. Maybe some of these folks may come to understand that biblical texts, books of the Bible, their authors, language and history do not require a supernatural direct line to God. Many Biblical scholars have spent their entire lives in the study of these books as well as many books that were not included in the King James Version. The time the books were written and by whom is of importance as well as who actually had direct access to the sacred writings. Some of these morons have no clue about the different languages used nor how these books were interpreted. For example certain words used in original manuscripts have no direct translation to other languages. Thus, interpretation of the originals is left to scholars. The Bible is not a historical text, it is a spiritual book, it contains many contradictions and leaves many unanswered questions. My personal belief is that the Bibles real intent is to share God's message with us, to give us all hope and provide guidance about how we conduct ourselves in our day to day affairs. It is in fact not historically correct, because it was never intended to be. What I found truly astonishing is how much is actually known about these texts.

 

[American Patriot]

By its own declaration, the Secret Book of John is a sacred text intended to be shared only with individuals properly prepared to receive its revelation. In second-century Christian communions circulation of the text probably remained restricted. Amazingly, despite limited circulation and the effective later efforts by evolving Christian orthodoxy to destroy all such “heretical” scriptures, four separate manuscripts of the SBJ have survived into our own age. Three of these were found among the Nag Hammadi codices discovered in 1945, while a fourth copy was independently recovered fifty years earlier from another site in Egypt. All four versions date to the fourth century. Three of the four appear to be independently produced Coptic translations of an original text in Greek. Two of the four manuscripts (NHC II and NHC IV) are so similar that they most likely represent copies of a single

http://gnosis.org/naghamm/nhl_sbj.htm

Thank you , Professor, for your keen insight. Maybe some of these folks may come to understand that biblical texts, books of the Bible, their authors, language and history do not require a supernatural direct line to God. Many Biblical scholars have spent their entire lives in the study of these books as well as many books that were not included in the King James Version. The time the books were written and by whom is of importance as well as who actually had direct access to the sacred writings. Some of these morons have no clue about the different languages used nor how these books were interpreted. For example certain words used in original manuscripts have no direct translation to other languages. Thus, interpretation of the originals is left to scholars. The Bible is not a historical text, it is a spiritual book, it contains many contradictions and leaves many unanswered questions. My personal belief is that the Bibles real intent is to share God's message with us, to give us all hope and provide guidance about how we conduct ourselves in our day to day affairs. It is in fact not historically correct, because it was never intended to be. What I found truly astonishing is how much is actually known about these texts.

 

[Arkady]

You screwed up, by trying to discuss a book you haven't read. We're laughing at you for it. Deal.

 

[American Patriot]

You screwed up, by trying to discuss a book you haven't read. We're laughing at you for it. Deal.

As a matter of fact I wrote a thesis in College about both Daniel in the Old Testament and the Book of Revelation in the New Testament. I have not only read the entire Bible cover to cover but I actually studied both of these books in detail. I made a "A " on my thesis and your false accusations just go to prove yet again that you know absolutely nothing about what you are saying. This is a common practice for those on the far far left that are progressive socialists, when you cannot disprove the facts you make things up and falsely accuse people you know absolutely nothing about. Your lord and savior Obummer practices these same tactics and the proof is in his many lies and tactics of deceit, just look at what actually happened in Benghazi. Your final tactic is to play the race card and by doing so you merely discredit yourselves as being malicious and antagonistic. Your political agenda will be your undoing and as time passes and more political failure ensues, as unemployment rises, and the economy becomes mired in debt and interest payments. As markets fail and endless entitlements become unsustainable you and those like you will have no where to run and no where to hide, you will be guilty of following an unqualified and inept leader off the cliff of disaster. What your party is doing has been already tried in Europe and it failed dramatically. Most of you remind me of lemmings blindly following the first one off the cliff and falling to their death. You do not know what you are talking about and you and nearly everyone else in your clan has no common sense and even less intelligence.

 

[Days]

why should he? He knows he made it all up.

None of it came from the bible, except he did a decent job of explaining that apocalypse is Greek for unveiling.

 

[MrPinko]

Grover Norquist is the anti-Christ?

Wow.

 

[American Patriot]

Grover Norquist is the anti-Christ?

Wow.

I seriously doubt that statement. Yet another unsubstantiated accusation filled with hate and no facts. That is my point, the far far left has no qualm about accusing anybody who stands against their political agenda. They literary have no conscience, no moral compass, and absolutely no integrity.

 

[OldGaffer]

And the far far right does? You have the guts to say that?

 

[Cotton2226]

apocalypse is actually a greek word. It does not mean the end of days. It's literal and actual meaning is the revealing, in greek it means the pulling back of the certain. John the author of the book of revelation in the bible used this word as a kind of code when he wrote to the seven churches. His intent was to reveal what was in store for christians of the early church as well at what was in store for the world. A divine message brought to him by an angel of god.
In the books of daniel as well as revelation in the bible it speaks of an anti-christ. This anti-christ is described as a very eloquent speaker, a spender of very large sums of money, a controller of the economy. The anti-christ says he wants everyone to have everything they need, no mention of work that is necessary to obtain these things. The anti-christ is the great deceiver, his real agenda is hidden, little is actually known about his past or where he was actually born or came from as this information has been hidden and sealed. It says that in his seventh year of rule his true agenda will be revealed. It says that this man will cause destruction and suffering on a scale never before seen.

Sound familiar, it should.

horseshit.. did you say that about Bush and co. ( great deceiver, his real agenda is hidden,) when they sold a bill of goods called WMD?! Doubt it..

Where in the Bible does it say, little is known about this person? Link? Hidden and sealed? Where is that in the Bible?

Oh, does it say in the Bible this person has a good jumpshot and passes well? Anything about two beautiful daughters named Sasha and Malia?

You wouldn't be racial Non Patriot?!!!

 

[amfh]

My post never mentioned Obummer, you did. You made the assumption, that was actually the very point of my post.

Oh, good grief. All of us, including you, have seen enough of those silly forwarded emails claiming Obama is the anti-Christ to know that is EXACTLY what you were inferring in your original post.

Grover Norquist is the anti-Christ?

Wow.

Either him or Mitch McConnell...McConnell has kind of a dead, creepy look.

I seriously doubt that statement. Yet another unsubstantiated accusation filled with hate and no facts. That is my point, the far far left has no qualm about accusing anybody who stands against their political agenda. They literary have no conscience, no moral compass, and absolutely no integrity.

Will you EVER answer the oft asked question? Do YOU believe Obama is the anti-Christ?

I'll tell you that I, for one, am thoroughly sick of this hateful meme, not only because it's horrible in the extreme the level of hatred you people have for a good, intelligent man, but in particular because I am being stalked and harrassed by some rightwingnut who is calling ME the anti-Christ solely because I support President Obama.

Are you people REALLY so ignorant and disgusting? I say yes, indeed, you are. LOOK IN THE MIRROR to see the person with no conscience, no moral compass and absolutely no integrity, "sir".

 

[LeRoy_Was_Here]

Either him or Mitch McConnell...McConnell has kind of a dead, creepy look.

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Mitch McConnell is not the Anti-Christ. He is not the Pale Man from Pan's Labyrinth. Mitch McConnell is an alien! He is one of the Pod People! I have been pleading for the past several years for SOMEONE---ANYONE!!!---to reach out and lift up Mitch McConnell's mask, and reveal the hideous, drooling, fanged, lizard alien monster hiding underneath!

Before it's too late!!

 

[American Patriot]

Oh, good grief. All of us, including you, have seen enough of those silly forwarded emails claiming Obama is the anti-Christ to know that is EXACTLY what you were inferring in your original post.


Either him or Mitch McConnell...McConnell has kind of a dead, creepy look.

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Will you EVER answer the oft asked question? Do YOU believe Obama is the anti-Christ?

I'll tell you that I, for one, am thoroughly sick of this hateful meme, not only because it's horrible in the extreme the level of hatred you people have for a good, intelligent man, but in particular because I am being stalked and harrassed by some rightwingnut who is calling ME the anti-Christ solely because I support President Obama.

Are you people REALLY so ignorant and disgusting? I say yes, indeed, you are. LOOK IN THE MIRROR to see the person with no conscience, no moral compass and absolutely no integrity, "sir".

You people don't read very well, do you? I never at any time said Obummer was the anti-christ. His name was never mentioned. The point of my post as I have said repeatedly was to see just how many of you left wing loons made that assumption on your very own, and as expected to a man everyone of you have done just that. This proves beyond any doubt that those on the far far left that are progressive socialists will go to any lengths and will invent accusations as well as make unjustified assumptions all in the name of their lord and savior Obummer. Like I said your post is an excellent example of lacking moral compass, having no integrity, and making false and insulting accusations that only prove how filled with hate and false assumptions you really are. I am not stalking you, I do not even know you, and quite honestly do not care to know you. I never at any time called you the anti-christ, you have somehow, in your warped and delusional world, drifted into a realm of Obummer dreamland. For you and those like you it is always the same, if anyone for any reason at anytime confronts Obummer or your political agenda you feel a burning desire to verbally abuse and attack that individual by any means necessary including lying, making up things, making wildly imaginative assumptions, and using demeaning and insulting accusations that are baseless. You are so pathetically ignorant that I now totally understand why all of you so strongly worship and adore Obummer.

 

[LeRoy_Was_Here]

You people don't read very well, do you? I never at any time said Obummer was the anti-christ. His name was never mentioned. The point of my post as I have said repeatedly was to see just how many of you left wing loons made that assumption on your very own, and as expected to a man everyone of you have done just that. This proves beyond any doubt that those on the far far left that are progressive socialists will go to any lengths and will invent accusations as well as make unjustified assumptions all in the name of their lord and savior Obummer. Like I said your post is an excellent example of lacking moral compass, having no integrity, and making false and insulting accusations that only prove how filled with hate and false assumptions you really are. I am not stalking you, I do not even know you, and quite honestly do not care to know you. I never at any time called you the anti-christ, you have somehow, in your warped and delusional world, drifted into a realm of Obummer dreamland. For you and those like you it is always the same, if anyone for any reason at anytime confronts Obummer or your political agenda you feel a burning desire to verbally abuse and attack that individual by any means necessary including lying, making up things, making wildly imaginative assumptions, and using demeaning and insulting accusations that are baseless. You are so pathetically ignorant that I now totally understand why all of you so strongly worship and adore Obummer.

Who the HELL is Obummer?!? I've never heard the name before.

 

[American Patriot]

Who the HELL is Obummer?!? I've never heard the name before.

You people are insane.