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"The Mushrooming Welfare State" will bankrupt America

many people would reply that today's national debt - $170,000 for every american family - is already at the stage of "bankruptcy", because the average family cannot afford to repay its share of the burden.

not through higher taxes.

not though higher prices on consumer goods, if taxes are raised on businesses

hyper inflation and devaluation of the currency is the apparent endgame of those who don't pay taxes, and have no savings.
 
or as Thatcher said "eventually run out of other peoples money"=Taxpayers

http://www.daily-journal.com/opinio...cle_990c94e3-8982-5a5b-99bb-1db95fadad89.html

At least Maine is taking steps to reduce the Freeloaders, just means mass will gain new Freeloaders or other states.............once these folks learn how to live off taxpayers, doesn't appear to be a cure short of death.

Dawg, I hate to break the bad news to you old thing - but the US is bankrupt and has been for yonks -
 
or as Thatcher said "eventually run out of other peoples money"=Taxpayers

http://www.daily-journal.com/opinio...cle_990c94e3-8982-5a5b-99bb-1db95fadad89.html

At least Maine is taking steps to reduce the Freeloaders, just means mass will gain new Freeloaders or other states.............once these folks learn how to live off taxpayers, doesn't appear to be a cure short of death.

Dear Cons,

If you hadn't been so anti worker for the last 4 decades on top of crashing the economy or causing a recession every time one or your president gets elected. There would be less need for means tested benefits. So maybe you should quit bitching about the very problems you cause for so many of your fellow citizens and instead of stop creating them in the first place.

Yours truly,
America​
 
Dear Cons,

If you hadn't been so anti worker for the last 4 decades on top of crashing the economy or causing a recession every time one or your president gets elected. There would be less need for means tested benefits. So maybe you should quit bitching about the very problems you cause for so many of your fellow citizens and instead of stop creating them in the first place.

Yours truly,
America​


Yeah, yeah, yeah........................ Different CENTURY, same 'ol tired ass dem/lib whimper.

Always the "victim", always behind because of "others", never a thought of any thing close to even resembling personal responsibility shall ever be considered, mentioned or tolerated, can not be so much as pondered..............

THAT is all it takes for one to become one of you self-professed, uber-enlightened, "champions-of-the-oppressed", loony liberals, right spammy?
 
Yeah, yeah, yeah........................ Different CENTURY, same 'ol tired ass dem/lib whimper.

Always the "victim", always behind because of "others", never a thought of any thing close to even resembling personal responsibility shall ever be considered, mentioned or tolerated, can not be so much as pondered..............

THAT is all it takes for one to become one of you self-professed, uber-enlightened, "champions-of-the-oppressed", loony liberals, right spammy?

What does personal responsibility have to do with people who earn so little they qualify for means tested benefits ? How does personal responsibility play into a crash of the economy that causes millions of businesses to go under and million more to lose their jobs ? What working individual is responsible for stagnant wages and a minimum wage that makes it impossible for that individual who works a full time job to be unable to support themselves independently and without aid from the govt ?
 
or as Thatcher said "eventually run out of other peoples money"=Taxpayers

http://www.daily-journal.com/opinio...cle_990c94e3-8982-5a5b-99bb-1db95fadad89.html

At least Maine is taking steps to reduce the Freeloaders, just means mass will gain new Freeloaders or other states.............once these folks learn how to live off taxpayers, doesn't appear to be a cure short of death.
Kindly refrain from the mention of "shrooms" in this forum. As you know, there are legions of hippies here who will be immediately craving their next psychedelic episode.
:)
 
Dear Cons,

If you hadn't been so anti worker for the last 4 decades on top of crashing the economy or causing a recession every time one or your president gets elected. There would be less need for means tested benefits. So maybe you should quit bitching about the very problems you cause for so many of your fellow citizens and instead of stop creating them in the first place.

Yours truly,
America​

Clinton left office and USA was in a RECESSION.................Clinton's were "dead broke" Hillary landed under "sniper fire".........

86 the ignorance..............

http://www.factcheck.org/2007/12/clinton-and-economic-growth-in-the-90s/
 
And when your hero left millions were dead broke and had to line up for the means tested benefits you're complaining about.

LIAR

of course you never opine on topic and just spin to Bush..................what about Recession Clinton left____________________opine on TOPIC or leave
 
LIAR

of course you never opine on topic and just spin to Bush..................what about Recession Clinton left____________________opine on TOPIC or leave

Recession started March 2001. That is 2 months after Clinton left office.

According to the National Bureau of Economic Research (NBER), which is the private, nonprofit, nonpartisan organization charged with determining economic recessions, the U.S. economy was in recession from March 2001 to November 2001 , a period of eight months at the beginning of President George W. Bush's term of ...


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_2000s_recession
 
The Liberals wanted to move us from the Land of the Free and home of the Brave to the Land to get stuff for Free and Home of anyone who jumps the border.
 
or as Thatcher said "eventually run out of other peoples money"=Taxpayers

http://www.daily-journal.com/opinio...cle_990c94e3-8982-5a5b-99bb-1db95fadad89.html

At least Maine is taking steps to reduce the Freeloaders, just means mass will gain new Freeloaders or other states.............once these folks learn how to live off taxpayers, doesn't appear to be a cure short of death.

Maybe it your military industrial complex and 80 interventions in other couture plus numerous useless wars that is bankrupting your country and the useless waste in 800 plus military bases out side USA , Homeland security, NSA ,CIA, FBI etc.. Trillions down the drain forever and nothing to show for it..
 
Dawg, I hate to break the bad news to you old thing - but the US is bankrupt and has been for yonks -


Correct, The US is out of money and has been for sometime. We are literally living on borrowed time that the next generations will inherit and be expected to pay back this gigantic debt. There will however eventually come an end to BoPeep's entitlement Socialist welfare state including his unsustainable Obama Care. There will be an end to free phones and free stuff including Food Stamps, Section 8 housing , Social Security and welfare checks for some 190 million Americans.

But the next economic collapse will make the last one look like child's play and there will be no recovery this time because our money will then be worthless even on a global economic scale. The US dollar will not be the world standard any longer and we all will be faced with just trying to survive and having enough to eat. It will be a time of great civil disobedience on a scale even the government will be unable to control. Your money and your savings will not be worth the paper it is printed on.

This will all be due to politicians like Bush and Obama who actually believe we can spend our way into prosperity. This is an absurd notion that is laced with delusional beliefs based on years of lying and corruption inflicted on the American Taxpayer in an attempt at self perpetuation and power. The insane socialistic mantra of spreading the wealth will become exactly what it really is, because then there will be no wealth to spread.

The banking system will collapse, many businesses, corporations and industries will close their doors. There will be no food at your local grocery store, no fuel for your automobiles and no electricity to power your home. You will literally be on your own, money will no longer mean power and we will all be dependent on our own ability to survive and sustain yourself by any means necessary.

This has happened before in Germany when it literally took a wheelbarrow full of money to buy a loaf of bread and an entire nation was faced with total and complete economic collapse. It is coming and anyone who does not believe this cannot happen is as crazy and stupid as Obama is. Lies and blame then will not make any of us have any confidence in our government or our corrupt and dishonest leaders. It will then be a lesson to late for the learning.

Millions will die of starvation and exposure. Only those who have prepared for and are equipped to sustain them selves will survive. It will literally mean every man for himself and many will die. You may think what I am saying can never occur but can you afford not to prepare yourself just in case it does. How much longer do you actually believe we can go on borrowing money and not paying it back? How much longer are you willing to believe the lies and deceptions our government bestows on you almost daily.

The only reason it has not happened already is because we have the ability to print our own money. Those printing presses have been making money as fast as they can print now for years, nothing backs up this fake money except our corrupt and dishonest government. Our government spends far more than it takes in. How long could you or your family live if you were to do that?

You do not need to be an economic genius to see the writing on the wall it is common sense. Do you think or even believe Obama actually cares what happens to you or any of us for that matter? Fact is Obama only cares about Obama.

To survive and live during this economic catastrophe you will need food, water, shelter, and a means to protect yourself and your family. You will need about two years worth of stored food, a means to make and store fresh clean water, a shelter or space to protect yourself from the elements and you will need means to protect yourself and your family as well as these things, there will eventually be marauding bands of people looking to take these things from you so they can survive.

Most likely you may be forced to use deadly force to sustain your life and stay reasonably safe. It will not be a pleasant time to live in this country. The most valuable thing you will need is food to keep yourself from starvation. It could be sometime before things actually get much better.

You will require some kind of firearm with enough ammunition to prevent hostile intrusion of your living space and to protect yourself and what little you do have. It will be a lot like when people went out west for the first time, they were forced to make do for themselves, there were no Wal Marts, supermarkets or drug stores. The was little if any law enforcement and almost all of them had a firearm of some type at the ready and they knew that their survival depended on themselves and no one else.

As things begin to get better you will see a new form of government arise and this time it will be quite different than it is now. Those who are in the government will be held accountable for their actions, lying could have drastic and fatal consequences and corruption of any kind will not be tolerated for any reason. There most probably will emerge a citizen militia that actually regulates the government and attempts to re establish law and order. It will take a very long time for things to recover and in fact they will never recover entirely. It will be a law less and dangerous land for a long time. This is reality, this is what people like Obama and Bush have brought to your doorstep they are the ones who lied to you and deceived you. Once the economy collapses they will not be able to help, the only person you can look to for help is yourself.
 
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There have been a couple of Court cases recently - where people have fought against foreclosure on their homes on the grounds that the Banks lent them nothing, in fact, because money is only worth the paper it is printed on --------- they won.

The whole thing is rigged and the same, less than 1%, people make money out of Welfare as everything else - any Civilization is built on, more than anything else, the ability to feed all of it's people - This Planet is bountiful - treat it right and it will feed us all BUT that same 1% own the food supplies and water too - we are capable of feeding ourselves and watering ourselves - we need to start kicking out the 1% -------------- we can do the job better than they with their eyes only on profit, careless of everything else - Europe is beginning too fight back, Fracking here is on hold for eg - and my God it has been an up hill battle - not won yet but we at last seem to have politicos on side now - Greece is now rebelling - ? we shall see
 
There have been a couple of Court cases recently - where people have fought against foreclosure on their homes on the grounds that the Banks lent them nothing, in fact, because money is only worth the paper it is printed on --------- they won.

The whole thing is rigged and the same, less than 1%, people make money out of Welfare as everything else - any Civilization is built on, more than anything else, the ability to feed all of it's people - This Planet is bountiful - treat it right and it will feed us all BUT that same 1% own the food supplies and water too - we are capable of feeding ourselves and watering ourselves - we need to start kicking out the 1% -------------- we can do the job better than they with their eyes only on profit, careless of everything else - Europe is beginning too fight back, Fracking here is on hold for eg - and my God it has been an up hill battle - not won yet but we at last seem to have politicos on side now - Greece is now rebelling - ? we shall see

That all sounds beautiful........................... in theory.

"The whole thing is rigged and the same, less than 1%, people make money out of Welfare as everything else - any Civilization is built on, more than anything else, the ability to feed all of it's people"

In reality it has never, and will never, actually work.

If in fact everything you believe is actually true, IF, How or why is it only 1% of the people in every civilization manages to come to be "in control" of all of the food and water and only they, 1% of everyone, " make money out of Welfare as everything else?

"This Planet is bountiful - treat it right and it will feed us all BUT that same 1% own the food supplies and water too - we are capable of feeding ourselves and watering ourselves - we need to start kicking out the 1% -------------- we can do the job better than they with their eyes only on profit, careless of everything else"

If "we" could in fact, "do the job better", if "we" ARE actually, "capable of feeding ourselves and watering ourselves", as you proclaim, why and how exactly is it only 1% of "us" came to be in control of everything?

AND, lets just say that somehow, just magically, "we" DID manage to "kick out" these evil 1%..............lets just say............
Being these devious 1% somehow managed to get control of everything all of the other more hard working, honest, nay,.............noble 99% of us need to, are entitled to in order to survive, what is to keep them from once again pulling this off?

Also I can not stress to you enough just how COMPLETELY I disagree with your belief that , "we are capable of feeding ourselves and watering ourselves", that, "we can do the job better".

I HAVE had the opportunity/need to actually work to provide for myself the food, water and shelter I heeded to survive for a while and trust me on this, while we each may very well be capable, it is not something anyone I know personally would want to do for themselves for very long. When one can manage to do this it is usually not exactly desirable and turns in to pretty much ALL one has the time to do.

At some point "we" will, WILL, elect to do other things with our time and let others provide us with access to these essentials and believe you me, if we were all doing this on our own it wouldn't be long until we once again "allowed" some to do most of it for us again.

"Greece is now rebelling - ? we shall see"

Indeed we shall. It will be interesting to see how those who were fighting so to have whatever it was they felt they were entitled to be funded by only some fair when they are in control of providing these things to people who also feel they are entitled.

I personally will wait to see how those who want to just "start over" fair before following suit.

But hey, maybe that is just me...........
 
All of you had best realize that your liberties and freedoms are gradually and slowly being taken from you. Money is power in Washington DC and the bigger the government the more power it controls. Obama is a man on a mission and his mission is power and control. The ground I stand on in America is my liberty, to take it you will need to kill me.

When the economy collapses Obama and the government will become non factors nearly instantly.
 
That all sounds beautiful........................... in theory.

"The whole thing is rigged and the same, less than 1%, people make money out of Welfare as everything else - any Civilization is built on, more than anything else, the ability to feed all of it's people"

In reality it has never, and will never, actually work.

If in fact everything you believe is actually true, IF, How or why is it only 1% of the people in every civilization manages to come to be "in control" of all of the food and water and only they, 1% of everyone, " make money out of Welfare as everything else?

"This Planet is bountiful - treat it right and it will feed us all BUT that same 1% own the food supplies and water too - we are capable of feeding ourselves and watering ourselves - we need to start kicking out the 1% -------------- we can do the job better than they with their eyes only on profit, careless of everything else"

If "we" could in fact, "do the job better", if "we" ARE actually, "capable of feeding ourselves and watering ourselves", as you proclaim, why and how exactly is it only 1% of "us" came to be in control of everything?

AND, lets just say that somehow, just magically, "we" DID manage to "kick out" these evil 1%..............lets just say............
Being these devious 1% somehow managed to get control of everything all of the other more hard working, honest, nay,.............noble 99% of us need to, are entitled to in order to survive, what is to keep them from once again pulling this off?

Also I can not stress to you enough just how COMPLETELY I disagree with your belief that , "we are capable of feeding ourselves and watering ourselves", that, "we can do the job better".

I HAVE had the opportunity/need to actually work to provide for myself the food, water and shelter I heeded to survive for a while and trust me on this, while we each may very well be capable, it is not something anyone I know personally would want to do for themselves for very long. When one can manage to do this it is usually not exactly desirable and turns in to pretty much ALL one has the time to do.

At some point "we" will, WILL, elect to do other things with our time and let others provide us with access to these essentials and believe you me, if we were all doing this on our own it wouldn't be long until we once again "allowed" some to do most of it for us again.

"Greece is now rebelling - ? we shall see"

Indeed we shall. It will be interesting to see how those who were fighting so to have whatever it was they felt they were entitled to be funded by only some fair when they are in control of providing these things to people who also feel they are entitled.

I personally will wait to see how those who want to just "start over" fair before following suit.

But hey, maybe that is just me...........


First of all I am not suggesting we all go down to the River for our water every five mins ----I have done it too, fun for a while but not forever and for what? ---------- what I mean is, if, the purpose of water supply is just that, to our best ability, and not only for profit we would have cleaner and more efficient water supplies -

Nor am I a revolutionary - Reform is all I am talking about - not to turn up the apple cart and let all we have built rot ----------- and start again - every time that is done it gets worse not better -
 
or as Thatcher said "eventually run out of other peoples money"=Taxpayers

http://www.daily-journal.com/opinio...cle_990c94e3-8982-5a5b-99bb-1db95fadad89.html

At least Maine is taking steps to reduce the Freeloaders, just means mass will gain new Freeloaders or other states.............once these folks learn how to live off taxpayers, doesn't appear to be a cure short of death.
As you may not be aware, deficits have been plummeting at an almost unprecedented rate. As for the welfare state, it remains fairly small by advanced-nation standards.
 
As you may not be aware, deficits have been plummeting at an almost unprecedented rate. As for the welfare state, it remains fairly small by advanced-nation standards.

what the fluck did the link I posted have to do with "nation standards"?

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