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The REAL unemployment numbers....

Lapcat

Lapcat

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are not as "unexpectedly" rosy as the numbers that Solis is defending. But then, we knew that most of the in-the-tank leftists would cover and continue to lie for Obama....in their desperate attempt to get him re-elected. It's not working. Even some in liberal media are questioning these latest numbers.

[video=youtube;yL1TeI2x2H0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=yL1TeI2x2H0[/video]

When you look at ALL of the numbers.....you see that unemployment is unchanged and still bad...hovering around 14-15%. Companies are still laying off due to Obamacare and manufacturing jobs are being lost (17,000 jobs lost in September). Of the dismal 114 jobs added last month, 91,000 were public sector (taxpayer funded) jobs, instead of the reverse, which is what we needed, being more private sector new jobs than public sector new jobs.

Of course, Solis (the commie approved Labor secretary) is going to lie and skew and obfuscate the truth. It's what leftists do.....a constant in the universe.

Here's the REAL deal....

awww.economicgreenfield.com_wp_content_uploads_2012_03_U6RATE_3_9_12.png

http://www.economicgreenfield.com/2...ong-term-reference-charts-as-of-march-9-2012/
 
Joe Scarborough is "liberal"?!?!?? :D

BTW, obviously those who are chronically unemployed are just that "47%" that Romney mentioned....getting a welfare check and taking no personal responsibility.
 
It sure is amusing watching Pugs bitterly carping about good news for America.
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It's even more amusing to watch the Libs think this is good news without thinking about the REAL unemployment numbers--those people who have given up and are no longer available for unemployment insurance. Have you ever tried to look at the situation without blinders on?
 
Notice Lappy how your "toal unemployed" leaves out Reagan's era, when that nuer approached 25%

Notice also how Obama's reduction of unemployment HAS BEEN STEEPER than GWBs...

Odd that.
 
Charcat said:
It's even more amusing to watch the Libs think this is good news without thinking about the REAL unemployment numbers
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Um since you objected to using those "REAL' measures under Reagan and GWB. you don't get to do so now.
 
I got a kick out of Jumpin' Joe this morning. He spent the better part of an hour whining about Obama and wishing for/predicting an awesome Willard comeback! :laugh:
 
"Of the dismal 114 jobs added last month, 91,000 were public sector (taxpayer funded) jobs".

I didn't see this in any of your links. I believe this statement is wrong.

BTW, your link from Sept 7th doesn't have any current numbers.
 
Bo-4 said:
I got a kick out of Jumpin' Joe this morning. He spent the better part of an hour whining about Obama and wishing for/predicting an awesome Willard comeback! :laugh:
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Bo...didn't you know? Scarborough is part of the "liberal media". :D
 
TwoWitnesses said:
"Of the dismal 114 jobs added last month, 91,000 were public sector (taxpayer funded) jobs".

I didn't see this in any of your links. I believe this statement is wrong.

BTW, your link from Sept 7th doesn't have any current numbers.
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I wish we could bring back some of the public sector jobs that were lost due to the Bush tax cuts. That would be a boon to the private sector.
 
NightSwimmer said:
I wish we could bring back some of the public sector jobs that were lost due to the Bush tax cuts. That would be a boon to the private sector.
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HELL NO!! We gots too many of them godawful teachers, lazy firefighters, and good-fer-nuthin' cops! Mitt Rmoney said so, and I beleive him!!
 
Now some facts. These "alternate measures of labor under utilization" are not the "real unemployment rate." Lots of those people have jobs. They just have part-time jobs. That's not to say the rate's unimportant. It's just to say that the economically ignorant should be careful about referring to them, when they don't understand them.

Anyway, the U-6 rate is, indeed, high. But it's also coming down, as your graph shows, including a sharp recent decline. As for the idea that the Labor Secretary is gaming the numbers, it would be hard to do without leaving a smoking-gun, since the reports come up through the apolitical career staffers -- people from both parties. It would be very hard to order them to change the numbers to fit a partisan goal without them whistle-blowing to the media, to Congress, and to the inspector general. Whistle blowers in government are protected against retaliation, so you'd have every incentive to whistle-blow if the senior department members ordered you to fake the numbers for Obama.
 
Arkady said:
Now some facts. These "alternate measures of labor under utilization" are not the "real unemployment rate." Lots of those people have jobs. They just have part-time jobs. That's not to say the rate's unimportant. It's just to say that the economically ignorant should be careful about referring to them, when they don't understand them.

Anyway, the U-6 rate is, indeed, high. But it's also coming down, as your graph shows, including a sharp recent decline. As for the idea that the Labor Secretary is gaming the numbers, it would be hard to do without leaving a smoking-gun, since the reports come up through the apolitical career staffers -- people from both parties. It would be very hard to order them to change the numbers to fit a partisan goal without them whistle-blowing to the media, to Congress, and to the inspector general. Whistle blowers in government are protected against retaliation, so you'd have every incentive to whistle-blow if the senior department members ordered you to fake the numbers for Obama.
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Aw, you're blowin' the conspiracy theory! What a stick-in-the-mud you are! And we was havin' FUN!
 
I heard the head of the bureau of government statistics get intereviewed once. He was a very interesting man and was basically the numbers guy for the government and a civil servant. No way he was partisan, he explained his operation in detail on CSPAN..
 
Lapcat said:
are not as "unexpectedly" rosy as the numbers that Solis is defending. But then, we knew that most of the in-the-tank leftists would cover and continue to lie for Obama....in their desperate attempt to get him re-elected. It's not working. Even some in liberal media are questioning these latest numbers.

[video=youtube;yL1TeI2x2H0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=yL1TeI2x2H0[/video]

When you look at ALL of the numbers.....you see that unemployment is unchanged and still bad...hovering around 14-15%. Companies are still laying off due to Obamacare and manufacturing jobs are being lost (17,000 jobs lost in September). Of the dismal 114 jobs added last month, 91,000 were public sector (taxpayer funded) jobs, instead of the reverse, which is what we needed, being more private sector new jobs than public sector new jobs.

Of course, Solis (the commie approved Labor secretary) is going to lie and skew and obfuscate the truth. It's what leftists do.....a constant in the universe.Here's the REAL deal....

awww.economicgreenfield.com_wp_content_uploads_2012_03_U6RATE_3_9_12.png

http://www.economicgreenfield.com/2...ong-term-reference-charts-as-of-march-9-2012/
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Right if it's not what you want, then attack. If someone stands up to attacks on the workers who are part of the govt, they are COMMIE's. True Americans.
 
Arkady said:
Now some facts. These "alternate measures of labor under utilization" are not the "real unemployment rate." Lots of those people have jobs. They just have part-time jobs. That's not to say the rate's unimportant. It's just to say that the economically ignorant should be careful about referring to them, when they don't understand them.

Anyway, the U-6 rate is, indeed, high. But it's also coming down, as your graph shows, including a sharp recent decline. As for the idea that the Labor Secretary is gaming the numbers, it would be hard to do without leaving a smoking-gun, since the reports come up through the apolitical career staffers -- people from both parties. It would be very hard to order them to change the numbers to fit a partisan goal without them whistle-blowing to the media, to Congress, and to the inspector general. Whistle blowers in government are protected against retaliation, so you'd have every incentive to whistle-blow if the senior department members ordered you to fake the numbers for Obama.
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Yep, all govt employee's are democrats and they can make up anything they want and no republican will ever know because republicans aren't govt. employtees.
 
GordonGecko said:
Bo...didn't you know? Scarborough is part of the "liberal media". :D
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Poor Joe, he likes to hear himself talk. I've seen him admit it at least 3 times. One of the most inflated egos on the planet, which is weird considering he's wrong at least half the time.
 
Whoa....checkout that historic increase in what the Fox/GOP likes to call "real unemployment", throughout what we ALL know to be Li'l George's fiscal 2009! Anyway.....one thing about this ...what the Fox/GOP likes to call "real unemployment" charting, is that it suggests their "real unemployment' is falling at a rate GREATER than the official number. In other words, for every 1/10th the official number falls, their "real" number falls more than 1/10th. This should be heartening to all REAL Americans!
 
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