The Second Amendment

[H. Muir]

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[Corruptbuddha]

True, it merely PROTECTS an inherent right.

 

[trapdoor]

The CONSTITUTION does not amount to a grant of rights. It cedes certain authorities to the federal government. All rights not ceded in that way remain in the hands of individuals or the states. Too many people don't realize the nature of our system.

 

[marvin martian]

The Second Amendment does not grant any rights.

Exactly. It enumerates the rights already inherent in mankind. Same for the other nine articles of the Bill of Rights.

 

[GordonGecko]

Exactly. It enumerates the rights already inherent in mankind. Same for the other nine articles of the Bill of Rights.

How do you know the right to bear firearms is an inherent right, marv. Who granted it?

 

[marvin martian]

How do you know the right to bear firearms is an inherent right, marv. Who granted it?

Read the Declaration of Independence chubs...after you watch O'Reilly, of course.

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

The CONSTITUTION does not amount to a grant of rights. It cedes certain authorities to the federal government. All rights not ceded in that way remain in the hands of individuals or the states. Too many people don't realize the nature of our system.

News from Wingnuttia...

The Bill of Rights does not grant any rights.

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

How do you know the right to bear firearms is an inherent right, marv. Who granted it?

That would be Gawd.

 

[marvin martian]

News from Wingnuttia...

The Bill of Rights does not grant any rights.

That's already been acknowledged, more than once. Try to keep up.

 

[trapdoor]

News from Wingnuttia...

The Bill of Rights does not grant any rights.

It doesn't -- it protects rights citizens were presumed to already have. You don't really seem to understand. Read two things, the preamble, which states where the authority for the federal government is derived, and then read the 9th Amendment, which, of course, points out that the enumeration of rights in the Bill of Rights is not meant to be a total list of the rights citizens have.

The federal government gets its rights from the people -- if the people have not surrendered an authority to the federal government, the people retain those rights whether or not they're mentioned in the Bill of Rights. Breathing is not mentioned in the Bill of Rights -- do you think that the federal govenrment would be within its authority to deprive you of the right to breathe?

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

That's already been acknowledged, more than once. Try to keep up.

Acknowledged by whom?

Republican wackjobs?

I'm talking about sane people.

 

[Doubter]

There are no "inherent rights".

Anarchist

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

It doesn't -- it protects rights citizens were presumed to already have. You don't really seem to understand. Read two things, the preamble, which states where the authority for the federal government is derived, and then read the 9th Amendment, which, of course, points out that the enumeration of rights in the Bill of Rights is not meant to be a total list of the rights citizens have.

The federal government gets its rights from the people -- if the people have not surrendered an authority to the federal government, the people retain those rights whether or not they're mentioned in the Bill of Rights. Breathing is not mentioned in the Bill of Rights -- do you think that the federal govenrment would be within its authority to deprive you of the right to breathe?

hee hee..."rights citizens were presumed to already have"

So "presumed" that the Bill of Rights was written to specify them.

P.S. Another "presumed" right was the right for wingnuts to say crazy things.

 

[marvin martian]

The stupidity of the left is absolutely laughable...

 

[GordonGecko]

Read the Declaration of Independence chubs...after you watch O'Reilly, of course.

Where does the DOI say who grants the right to bear a firearm, "marv"????

 

[marvin martian]

Where does the DOI say who grants the right to bear a firearm, "marv"????

Just see my post #15. You're not worth it. And, isn't Hannity on right now?

 

[GordonGecko]

Just see my post #15. You're not worth it. And, isn't Hannity on right now?

Can't you answer simple questions, "marv"??? Where does it say in the DOI who grants the "inherent" right to own a firearm???

 

[marvin martian]

Can't you answer simple questions, "marv"??? Where does it say in the DOI who grants the "inherent" right to own a firearm???

Run along now chubs, Hannity is calling. You're not pushing the right button anymore. You're either acting too stupid to get it, or you actually are too stupid to get it. Either way, I'm done with you. See ya...

 

[GordonGecko]

Run along now chubs, Hannity is calling. You're not pushing the right button anymore. You're either acting too stupid to get it, or you actually are too stupid to get it. Either way, I'm done with you. See ya...

You keep calling ME stupid....yet YOU can't answer simple questions because you are either scared or know it's going to eventually trip you up.


Where in the DOI does it say who grants the "inherent" right to a firearm????

 

[Corruptbuddha]

According to the Constitution, yes there are.