Think there's no support for Michael Dunn? Think again!

[Bo-4]

Meet George Zimmerman’s (bailed him out twice) pal Frank Taaffe, who not only thinks Dunn was justified in shooting Davis for being black, but is also an unapologetic white supremacist. So while rightwing sites haven’t embraced Dunn, basic cable is happy to give a microphone to a bigot who suggests being afraid of black teenagers is a perfectly valid reason to kill the little thugs.

http://wonkette.com/541923/hln-welc...sights-on-shooting-black-children#more-541923

 

[NightSwimmer]

Oh, I'm sure he has a fan club. Some of his supporters probably don't want to admit their admiration for him publicly. Can't say that I blame them.

 

[Bo-4]

Oh, I'm sure he has a fan club. Some of his supporters probably don't want to admit their admiration for him publicly. Can't say that I blame them.

I think the only PJcon who might be willing to openly express admiration for Dunn might be our AmRen friend El Cid from Wyoming.

But i could be wrong..

 

[NightSwimmer]

We only have one or two here who will openly admit to being Republicans.

 

[Cerulean Mutt]

Meet George Zimmerman’s (bailed him out twice) pal Frank Taaffe, who not only thinks Dunn was justified in shooting Davis for being black, but is also an unapologetic white supremacist. So while rightwing sites haven’t embraced Dunn, basic cable is happy to give a microphone to a bigot who suggests being afraid of black teenagers is a perfectly valid reason to kill the little thugs.

http://wonkette.com/541923/hln-welc...sights-on-shooting-black-children#more-541923

One of the most important things I was taught at an early age regarding guns and gun safety was that you had to have the right attitude whenever you were handling guns.

I think this fella had the wrong attitude in that it looks like he got into an argument with those kids and then went and got his gun out of the car. Anybody that escalates a situation unnecessarily like that has the wrong attitude.

 

[Bluedog]

Not seeing any reason to support Dunn,period.

 

[Minotaur]

Just the fact that the jury is taking a lot of time is distressing. This [Unwelcome language removed] shot an unarmed kid, drove to a hotel and did not wait for cops and upon arriving at the hotel, ordered a pizza.

It may be that only the white guy who shot a white man in the theater will be found guilty. I hope that that the jury is not so slow due to some wanting to let another kid killer get away with it too.

 

[Bo-4]

Just the fact that the jury is taking a lot of time is distressing. This [Unwelcome language removed] shot an unarmed kid, drove to a hotel and did not wait for cops and upon arriving at the hotel, ordered a pizza.

It may be that only the white guy who shot a white man in the theater will be found guilty. I hope that that the jury is not so slow due to some wanting to let another kid killer get away with it too.

18 hours of deliberation now Min. Very unsettling. My hunch at this point is that this jury is going to hang.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/02/14/justice/florida-loud-music-trial/

 

[Bluedog]

Just the fact that the jury is taking a lot of time is distressing. This [Unwelcome language removed] shot an unarmed kid, drove to a hotel and did not wait for cops and upon arriving at the hotel, ordered a pizza.

It may be that only the white guy who shot a white man in the theater will be found guilty. I hope that that the jury is not so slow due to some wanting to let another kid killer get away with it too.

Never underestimate what can sway or not sway a jury. More often than not the law has less to do with decision making than people's own bias and predispositions.

IMHO

 

[Minotaur]

18 hours of deliberation now Min. Very unsettling. My hunch at this point is that this jury is going to hang.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/02/14/justice/florida-loud-music-trial/

I thought the verdict would come back by late afternoon of the first day. This case is near cut and dry. The jerk ran away from the crime of killing a kid for goodness sake. It is troubling.

 

[Minotaur]

Never underestimate what can sway or not sway a jury. More often than not the law has less to do with decision making than people's own bias and predispositions.

IMHO

This is as near cut and dry as it gets but I agree with you. All they have to do is play to a jury's fears and prejudices about black teens. Seems a harder thing to convince when the killer left the crime scene and ordered pizza. Ugh

 

[Bo-4]

This is as near cut and dry as it gets but I agree with you. All they have to do is play to a jury's fears and prejudices about black teens. Seems a harder thing to convince when the killer left the crime scene and ordered pizza. Ugh

I never heard.. were his racist letters from jail admitted into evidence?

http://newsone.com/2742724/jordan-davis-michael-dunn/

Wonder if these neighbors testified -- i doubt it.

 

[Charcat]

This is as near cut and dry as it gets but I agree with you. All they have to do is play to a jury's fears and prejudices about black teens. Seems a harder thing to convince when the killer left the crime scene and ordered pizza. Ugh

I didn't watch the trial, so I don't know what happened there. Just from reading the basics, it seems cut and dried, so I haven't a clue. Who knows?

 

[Minotaur]

I didn't watch the trial, so I don't know what happened there. Just from reading the basics, it seems cut and dried, so I haven't a clue. Who knows?

Hard to say as I don't know that it was even broadcast. In Florida coverage they noted a few points:
All witnesses said they saw the verbal exchange only and they saw him pull out a gun and shoot into the vehicle's closed and slightly tinted windows with the kids. He left before the cops came and went to his hotel and ordered a pizza. He says he didn't know he killed anyone until he watched the news.

The local news said the defense tried to build a case that he feared the black kids in their vehicle playing music. Apparently that was changed testimony. No witness saw the kids go after him. That is all I read on it.

It may just be that this jury is struggling to get it right. Hard to say. They have to struggle with the same jury instructions on Florida's version of SYG too so I pity them.

 

[Bo-4]

Hard to say as I don't know that it was even broadcast. In Florida coverage they noted a few points:
All witnesses said they saw the verbal exchange only and they saw him pull out a gun and shoot into the vehicle's closed and slightly tinted windows with the kids. He left before the cops came and went to his hotel and ordered a pizza. He says he didn't know he killed anyone until he watched the news.

The local news said the defense tried to build a case that he feared the black kids in their vehicle playing music. Apparently that was changed testimony. No witness saw the kids go after him. That is all I read on it.

It may just be that this jury is struggling to get it right. Hard to say. They have to struggle with the same jury instructions on Florida's version of SYG too so I pity them.

In case ya missed it

http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2014/02/13/the-deadly-consequences-of-stand-your-ground-laws/

 

[resident_evil]

18 hours of deliberation now Min. Very unsettling. My hunch at this point is that this jury is going to hang.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/02/14/justice/florida-loud-music-trial/

Would you not prefer a considered guilty verdict ratther than a 15min turn around?

How short of a time should they have taken in order to satiate your need for vengeance?

I do hope that Dunn is found guilty of murder from what I have heard of the case.

 

[resident_evil]

I never heard.. were his racist letters from jail admitted into evidence?

http://newsone.com/2742724/jordan-davis-michael-dunn/

Wonder if these neighbors testified -- i doubt it.

So Dunn was an atheist who didn't believe in immortal consequences and called a lot of people stupid.....hmmmmm..... I wonder who that might fit as a description around here.

 

[NightSwimmer]

So Dunn was an atheist who didn't believe in immortal consequences and called a lot of people stupid.....hmmmmm..... I wonder who that might fit as a description around here.

 

[resident_evil]

I'm not an atheist nor do I call many people stupid (actually I try not to and fail). But apparently I am a vampire. ;0)

 

[Bo-4]

So Dunn was an atheist who didn't believe in immortal consequences and called a lot of people stupid.....hmmmmm..... I wonder who that might fit as a description around here.

He's a RWnut. You must have missed his racist letters from jail.

"The fear is that we may get a predominately black jury and therefore, unlikely to get a favorable verdict. Sad, but that’s where this country is still at. The good news is that the surrounding counties are predominately white and Republican and supporters of gun rights.”

“The jail is full of blacks and they all act like thugs. This may sound a bit radical but if more people would arm themselves and kill these (expletive) idiots, when they’re threatening you, eventually they may take the hint and change their behavior.”

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