Trump is actually brilliant...

[Lukey]

In a (Peter Sellers) Chance sort of way. He mentions Ford building a $2.5 billion $ factory in Mexico and asks "how does that help us?"

He's hit the nail on the head. When "free trade" incents your largest companies to build their new plants across the border, it's time to look in the mirror and ask yourself "what the ef are we doing here that our best companies want to put their factories across the border? What kind of deal have we done here? Has ANY Mexican company relocated HERE? Nope, we just agreed to let their truckers come here in semis held together with spit and bailing wire. Trump's right - our leaders make bad deals. The sooner we admit that the sooner we can start discussing what we should be doing to make our end of the deal look better to the foreign companies!!!

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

Bad deals for ordinary Americans.

Great deals for big business, willing to put the screws to US workers for a few more bucks toward the bottom line.

Who benefits? People like Trump. Who bamboozles the GOP rabble into thinking they oppose the countless measures that boost big business? People like Trump.

;-)

 

[Lukey]

And I actually applaud him for this observation when asked about his lack of specifics:

“When you’re coming up with a plan in business, you have to be flexible.”

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/08/michigan-gets-full-trump-show-121281.html#ixzz3id2QX9mV

He's 100% right! You can plan, but only in general - goals & objectives. I've been in business a long time and I can recall many a time that I was stuck working for an anal retentive jerk who demanded detailed plans that prescribe every step of the way. And as soon as something went wrong we'd be forced to throw the plan in the trash and just fly by the seat of our pants. Over- specific planning is stupid!

 

[Lukey]

Bad deals for ordinary Americans.

Great deals for big business, willing to put the screws to US workers for a few more bucks toward the bottom line.

Who benefits? People like Trump. Who bamboozles the GOP rabble into thinking they oppose the countless measures that boost big business? People like Trump.

;-)

Haha! The fact that he's saying this Ford plant is a bad outcome flew right over your pointy little head...

 

[as seen on tv]

In a (Peter Sellers) Chance sort of way. He mentions Ford building a $2.5 billion $ factory in Mexico and asks "how does that help us?"

He's hit the nail on the head. When "free trade" incents your largest companies to build their new plants across the border, it's time to look in the mirror and ask yourself "what the ef are we doing here that our best companies want to put their factories across the border? What kind of deal have we done here? Has ANY Mexican company relocated HERE? Nope, we just agreed to let their truckers come here in semis held together with spit and bailing wire. Trump's right - our leaders make bad deals. The sooner we admit that the sooner we can start discussing what we should be doing to make our end of the deal look better to the foreign companies!!!

well, fords built in mexico cost less, so that helps the people who buy them.

ford never took any federal bailout money. GM did take bailout money, and opened a factory in russia about a year later. it makes the chevy cruz (which is made in multiple locations)

if GM or Ford are told they can only build cars in america, those cars will be signficantly more expensive than ones which come from Mexico, South Korea, Russia, or which have significant chinese parts content. And thus, Ford is likely to go bankrupt.

Mercedes, BMW, Audi, and VW have all opened US assembly plants in the past decade or so. The reason is that even though these are (relatively) high cost luxury cars, its still more affordable to use (non union) US labor to build them in America for USA buyers

How does this help the residents of Stuttgart, or Bonn?

Just wait until Africa and India get into the car manufacturing game in a serious way. Two thinks are likely to happen

1 - factories in mexico, south korea, and russia are likely to see their production diverted to the 3rd world

2 - workers in those nations will have more of a shot at feeding their families, and avoiding the allure of ISIS and other forms of terrorism/crime

 

[Drumcollie]

Bad deals for ordinary Americans.

Great deals for big business, willing to put the screws to US workers for a few more bucks toward the bottom line.

Who benefits? People like Trump. Who bamboozles the GOP rabble into thinking they oppose the countless measures that boost big business? People like Trump.

;-)

who benefits?...the mega democratic donor

 

[Drumcollie]

Bad deals for ordinary Americans.

Great deals for big business, willing to put the screws to US workers for a few more bucks toward the bottom line.

Who benefits? People like Trump. Who bamboozles the GOP rabble into thinking they oppose the countless measures that boost big business? People like Trump.

;-)

Really the Dow is down 17,379.75

 

[Boltlady]

In a (Peter Sellers) Chance sort of way. He mentions Ford building a $2.5 billion $ factory in Mexico and asks "how does that help us?"

He's hit the nail on the head. When "free trade" incents your largest companies to build their new plants across the border, it's time to look in the mirror and ask yourself "what the ef are we doing here that our best companies want to put their factories across the border? What kind of deal have we done here? Has ANY Mexican company relocated HERE? Nope, we just agreed to let their truckers come here in semis held together with spit and bailing wire. Trump's right - our leaders make bad deals. The sooner we admit that the sooner we can start discussing what we should be doing to make our end of the deal look better to the foreign companies!!!

A few years ago one of the oldest Ford plants that made the F150 trucks closed up. My little company lost a lot of business when that happened. Some with the plant itself and even more with others that dealt with it. Many people in my area lost their job in that the plant was less than 1 1/2 miles down the street from us. At the time it happened one of the supervisors from there told us that even as they were closing the plant, they were opening 4 others in Mexico.

You're exactly right in that it did nothing for our country. One would think that as this keeps happening there would be more work in Mexico and there wouldn't be so many trying to get here. Contrary to what people think though I believe that we don't have so many coming here for the work as what we have coming for the freebies/services that we keep giving them.

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

Really the Dow is down 17,379.75

Still almost triple the Dow GWB left behind.

Say "Thank you, Mr. President."

;-)

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

Haha! The fact that he's saying this Ford plant is a bad outcome flew right over your pointy little head...

Nah, but you completely dodged what I said. Because you know I'm right.

The Donald gets his product line stuff made abroad, all while duping you ninnies into thinking he truly opposes our laws that make outsourcing so attractive.

 

[American Patriot]

well, fords built in mexico cost less, so that helps the people who buy them.

ford never took any federal bailout money. GM did take bailout money, and opened a factory in russia about a year later. it makes the chevy cruz (which is made in multiple locations)

if GM or Ford are told they can only build cars in america, those cars will be signficantly more expensive than ones which come from Mexico, South Korea, Russia, or which have significant chinese parts content. And thus, Ford is likely to go bankrupt.

Mercedes, BMW, Audi, and VW have all opened US assembly plants in the past decade or so. The reason is that even though these are (relatively) high cost luxury cars, its still more affordable to use (non union) US labor to build them in America for USA buyers

How does this help the residents of Stuttgart, or Bonn?

Just wait until Africa and India get into the car manufacturing game in a serious way. Two thinks are likely to happen

1 - factories in mexico, south korea, and russia are likely to see their production diverted to the 3rd world

2 - workers in those nations will have more of a shot at feeding their families, and avoiding the allure of ISIS and other forms of terrorism/crime

Toyotas are also built in Mexico as well as BMWs and others. Trump is right and it is pissing off the left, great to see.

 

[Dawg]

In a (Peter Sellers) Chance sort of way. He mentions Ford building a $2.5 billion $ factory in Mexico and asks "how does that help us?"

He's hit the nail on the head. When "free trade" incents your largest companies to build their new plants across the border, it's time to look in the mirror and ask yourself "what the ef are we doing here that our best companies want to put their factories across the border? What kind of deal have we done here? Has ANY Mexican company relocated HERE? Nope, we just agreed to let their truckers come here in semis held together with spit and bailing wire. Trump's right - our leaders make bad deals. The sooner we admit that the sooner we can start discussing what we should be doing to make our end of the deal look better to the foreign companies!!!

Does Slicks NAFTA have anything to do with this? While I have your attention, odes this look like Greece:

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/ter...sury-says-debt-has-been-frozen-18112975000000

 

[Dawg]

Really the Dow is down 17,379.75

and Debt has been frozen until Oct:

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/ter...sury-says-debt-has-been-frozen-18112975000000

shit fixing to hit the fan

 

[Lukey]

Still almost triple the Dow GWB left behind.

Say "Thank you, Mr. President."

;-)

Request to Mods - can we get an "idiot" button please?

 

[Lukey]

Nah, but you completely dodged what I said. Because you know I'm right.

The Donald gets his product line stuff made abroad, all while duping you ninnies into thinking he truly opposes our laws that make outsourcing so attractive.

Still wishing for the "idiot" button here. Any developer who doesn't buy construction products made abroad won't be in business long. That doesn't mean he PREFERS it that way. Again, what are WE doing wrong economically that makes the foreign products more cost effective? Look in the effing mirror!