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Warning points

Maybe they could them NON-Warning points? LOL

We have the ability to see how many "trophy" points - that have absolutely no purpose - we have.... but we can't see how many "warning" points - which would actually help us to know whether we're about to be banned - we have accumulated.

Makes sense.... LOLOLOLOL.
 
Thanks. I really think it would've been nice to be notified, you know? I mean... what good are "WARNING" points when people aren't getting WARNED???

Since we are not warned about them, they are not "Warning" points.

What they are is Demerits. When you get ten (secret) Demerits, you are temporarily suspended.

If you think to ask if you have any Demerits, you will be told. However I am sure that if you ask about it daily, they will become annoyed that you are constantly asking.

Beware of the secret Demerit. It will be (literally) your undoing.

Yes. This was tongue-in-cheek, but I do wish we could see how many Demerits we have.
 
Since we are not warned about them, they are not "Warning" points.

What they are is Demerits. When you get ten (secret) Demerits, you are temporarily suspended.

If you think to ask if you have any Demerits, you will be told. However I am sure that if you ask about it daily, they will become annoyed that you are constantly asking.

Beware of the secret Demerit. It will be (literally) your undoing.

Yes. This was tongue-in-cheek, but I do wish we could see how many Demerits we have.

It's like oh, I dunno... a "surprise"??? SURPRISE! You earned 10 points, you're OUT! LOLOLOL
 
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And if you're a good little O'bot you get gold stars?

If I have any "Demerits" I could care less, and who ever assigned them please insert them in yourself where the sun never shines.
 
Weird, I clicked your name and this is what came up! ;)

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We have tried to implement some procedures when we issue warning points so that the person gets warned. I have no idea how this wasn't happening before and at some point it was because I got into PM conversations with people I gave warnings and points to. But, all of a sudden it seemed to stop. This wasn't something the admin or the mods did, but the software did.

To my knowledge neither the Mods nor the Admin can change the settings which show or do not show points. I know we have talked about it, but it may be a limitation on this platform. We lost a lot of functionality on a lot of things when we moved from the old platform to here. I have whined plenty of times about the loss of my beloved threaded view.

At any rate, if it can be fixed, it will be fixed, but if it is a platform limitation, we will have to live with it and try to find some work arounds. If you have suggestions on what you would like to see assuming we can't change the platform to allow this - how would you like to be made aware of your points?

connie
 
We have tried to implement some procedures when we issue warning points so that the person gets warned. I have no idea how this wasn't happening before and at some point it was because I got into PM conversations with people I gave warnings and points to. But, all of a sudden it seemed to stop. This wasn't something the admin or the mods did, but the software did.

To my knowledge neither the Mods nor the Admin can change the settings which show or do not show points. I know we have talked about it, but it may be a limitation on this platform. We lost a lot of functionality on a lot of things when we moved from the old platform to here. I have whined plenty of times about the loss of my beloved threaded view.

At any rate, if it can be fixed, it will be fixed, but if it is a platform limitation, we will have to live with it and try to find some work arounds. If you have suggestions on what you would like to see assuming we can't change the platform to allow this - how would you like to be made aware of your points?

connie

When the platform doesn't allow for something necessary like that, there is no easy way around it. It isn't right to expect the moderators to give us a personal PM whenever we get a demerit against us. That is time consuming and it opens up the possibility of a long conversation between a moderator and the person getting the point.

It's not right for a person to be informed of his/her demerits by virtue of the suspension when he/she gets the 10 (or whatever the number is) required for an automatic, computer-generated suspension.

And it will be annoying for the moderators for each of us to ask on a daily basis how many points we have.

I am dumbfounded as to why a platform wouldn't allow for us to know how many points we have. I have no solution for the problem, but it is a problem that's unfair to everyone. I can live without threaded view (I do miss it though) but due to this issue of demerit points (I can't in good conscience call them "warnings")......... leaves me not a fan of Xenforo at all. Bad platform for sure.
 
We have tried to implement some procedures when we issue warning points so that the person gets warned. I have no idea how this wasn't happening before and at some point it was because I got into PM conversations with people I gave warnings and points to. But, all of a sudden it seemed to stop. This wasn't something the admin or the mods did, but the software did.

To my knowledge neither the Mods nor the Admin can change the settings which show or do not show points. I know we have talked about it, but it may be a limitation on this platform. We lost a lot of functionality on a lot of things when we moved from the old platform to here. I have whined plenty of times about the loss of my beloved threaded view.

At any rate, if it can be fixed, it will be fixed, but if it is a platform limitation, we will have to live with it and try to find some work arounds. If you have suggestions on what you would like to see assuming we can't change the platform to allow this - how would you like to be made aware of your points?

connie

Maybe the moderators could (without discussion) inform people when they have 8 or 9 points against them. Perhaps there could be increments. When someone reaches 5, then 8 then 9 so that when 10 hits it won't be a blindside. I don't know how many people get suspended this way, but if it's a small number of people......that might not be too difficult to do.
 
When the platform doesn't allow for something necessary like that, there is no easy way around it. It isn't right to expect the moderators to give us a personal PM whenever we get a demerit against us. That is time consuming and it opens up the possibility of a long conversation between a moderator and the person getting the point.

It's not right for a person to be informed of his/her demerits by virtue of the suspension when he/she gets the 10 (or whatever the number is) required for an automatic, computer-generated suspension.

And it will be annoying for the moderators for each of us to ask on a daily basis how many points we have.

I am dumbfounded as to why a platform wouldn't allow for us to know how many points we have. I have no solution for the problem, but it is a problem that's unfair to everyone. I can live without threaded view (I do miss it though) but due to this issue of demerit points (I can't in good conscience call them "warnings")......... leaves me not a fan of Xenforo at all. Bad platform for sure.

It is a more complicated platform than before. I think like any software - you get some improvements, and then you get some stuff you don't like so much. This is one of the things we don't like so much.
 
It is a more complicated platform than before. I think like any software - you get some improvements, and then you get some stuff you don't like so much. This is one of the things we don't like so much.

Unfortunately, it's going to place an extra burden on moderators since the alert isn't available to posters. I'm sure there are posters who won't stay around in a system that blindsides them with a suspension.
 
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