We All Know....

[Sgt Staples]

We all know that Romney/Ryan's plan is to destroy the middle class, enrich the wealthy, end medicare and social security, because Obama and the Democrats are telling us that is what they will do, and we know that Obama and the Democrats NEVER lie or exaggerate or misrepresent or tell half truths.

But what exactly is Obama and the Democrats plan? I mean, yesterday Obama was say it was "shared prosperity." What does that mean? Is a more prosperous person going to be forced to share his prosperity with a less prosperous person? Will a person who works hard be forced to share the fruits of his labor with a person who works less hard?

Is that why we are making people who buy their own food pay for people who don't buy their own food. Is that why we are forcing people who save for their own pensions to fund other people's pensions? Is that why we are taking money from people who pay into social security and medicare to pay for people on Disability and Medicaid who don't pay into social security and Medicaid.

I wanna know what Obama and the Democrats plan is. Or is it more of the same. More takers and fewer makers?

I WANNA KNOW!!!!!

 

[GordonGecko]

Paul Ryan's budget is "rightwing social engineering".


What "Democrat" said that, Sarge???

 

[Sgt Staples]

Paul Ryan's budget is "rightwing social engineering".


What "Democrat" said that, Sarge???

That would have been Newt Gingrich. And exactly how did that work out for old Newt? Seems to me that he didn't win.


Now how about answering my question. What is exactly Obama's plan for 'shared prosperity?'

Seems to me that the only way to force more prosperous people to 'share' their prosperity with less prosperous people is by creating a totalitarian police state.

This is why Obama must talk in generalities and avoid specifics, He knows damn what he wants to do, he just can't tell you how he's going to do it.

This guy hates the America Way, Hates American's founding principles, hates Capitalism. And he's gonna fix it.

Anyone that supports this guy is either abjectly stupid, willfully ignorant, or is fearful of what will happen to them if they speak against him.

That last group includes to many establishment Republicans; while they are not for Obama they are afraid to call him exactly what he is: A 3rd rate Marxist agitator and demagogue, who's trying to become a Dictator in the vein of Stalin and Chairman Mao.

 

[GordonGecko]

Well, I'm refuting your original point, Sarge.


Is Newt Gingrich a "Democrat"?....No, therefore it is NOT "Obama or the Democrats" who is telling us that Ryan's budget is "rightwing social engineering"....is it????

 

[degsme]

We all know that Romney/Ryan's plan is to destroy the middle class, enrich the wealthy, end medicare and social security, because Obama and the Democrats are telling us that is what they will do, and we know that Obama and the Democrats NEVER lie or exaggerate or misrepresent or tell half truths.

But what exactly is Obama and the Democrats plan? I mean, yesterday Obama was say it was "shared prosperity." What does that mean? Is a more prosperous person going to be forced to share his prosperity with a less prosperous person? Will a person who works hard be forced to share the fruits of his labor with a person who works less hard?

Um no. It means that the person who works hard AND IS LUCKY also has to pay the fair share for the SUPPORT s/he got in accomplishing his her success.

It means that AS A NATION we work together to "promote the General Welfare" so as to "secure the blessings of liberty".

 

[degsme]

That would have been Newt Gingrich. And exactly how did that work out for old Newt? Seems to me that he didn't win.

He beat Romney until Romney massively outspent him.

But while Romney will outspend Obama, it won't e a massive outsepnd.

This guy hates the America Way, Hates American's founding principles, hates Capitalism. And he's gonna fix it

Hint, Capitalism was NOT one of America's Founding Principles. you might want to read this:

We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

Now if you can find Capitalism in there please let us know.


The truly shocking thing is that you actually believe the drivel you write like

That last group includes to many establishment Republicans; while they are not for Obama they are afraid to call him exactly what he is: A 3rd rate Marxist agitator and demagogue, who's trying to become a Dictator in the vein of Stalin and Chairman Mao.

You clearly are so filled with hatred that facts have no impact on you

 

[Caroljo]

Um no. It means that the person who works hard AND IS LUCKY also has to pay the fair share for the SUPPORT s/he got in accomplishing his her success.

It means that AS A NATION we work together to "promote the General Welfare" so as to "secure the blessings of liberty".

So a person that works hard is only going to make it if they're LUCKY......wow, what a bunch of crap!

And this means a person that doesn't work hard is not going to make it because they're just UNLUCKY? Lol! It's because they didn't work hard to EARN anthing! But the people that work hard have to give some of that up for the people that don't want to work hard. I guess that would make sense to someone like you...:crazy:

 

[Addy]

Employment, with a living wage
Freedom from unfair competition and monopolies
Housing
Medical care
Education
Social security

2nd Bill of Rights..

 

[JuliefromOhio]

We All Know

that Romney wants to privatize the VA. he floated that idea last year on Veteran's Day.

with that kind of mindset, if I were you, I would worry that Romney/Ryan would try to cut your military pension.

 

[Sgt Staples]

Um no. It means that the person who works hard AND IS LUCKY also has to pay the fair share for the SUPPORT s/he got in accomplishing his her success.

And to whom would their fair share be redistributed and how much would their fair share amount to in your little Police State, Fidel?

 

[degsme]

And to whom would their fair share be redistributed and how much would their fair share amount to in your little Police State, Fidel?

Hmm what defines "fair share"?

As I have pointed out before, even basic primates understand the concept of Diminishing Marginal Utility..... Do you?

Why is "might makes right" unfettered market not considered abusive by you?

 

[GordonGecko]

We All Know

that Romney wants to privatize the VA. he floated that idea last year on Veteran's Day.

You know "many in the military"....won't like hat idea.

 

[degsme]

So a person that works hard is only going to make it if they're LUCKY......wow, what a bunch of crap!

Hmm based on WHAT DATA do you make that claim?

And this means a person that doesn't work hard is not going to make it because they're just UNLUCKY?

Can I recommend you brush up on your logic? That's not the obverse of the above statement. Come back when you learn how to reason cogently.

 

[TwoWitnesses]

It's amazing to me how there are some triple-dippers (i.e. military retirement 20+ yrs., retirement from employment in a government agency 20+ yrs., and Social Security.) who support Romney/Ryan. I know a 75 year old retired master sergeant and IRS retiree who gets all of these checks from the federal government and still will vote for Romney anyway. That is when it's more important to be a Republican than to vote one's own best interest.

 

[Sgt Staples]

that Romney wants to privatize the VA. he floated that idea last year on Veteran's Day.

with that kind of mindset, if I were you, I would worry that Romney/Ryan would try to cut your military pension.

Hey, if it takes pension and SS cuts to save the damn country, I'm all for them. But I'll tell you what. First they can eliminate the 80 damn welfare programs that go to the takers that want a free ride first. Then come talk to me about military pensions and SS.

But I'm willing to my part. Always have done my part for
God and country. That's more than I can say for most of the free riders who vote for Democrat handouts.

You gotta quit eatin' that bullcrap Obama and the Democrats are feeding you. You'll feel much better if you actually get to the truth.

Here let me help you. Ryan's Medicare plan is actually the Romney/Wyden Plan and is Bi-Partisan.

>>>Democratic Sen. Ron Wyden and House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan on Thursday plan to introduce a new Medicare reform plan that would allow seniors to choose between traditional Medicare and new private insurance programs.<<<

Wyden is the first Democrat on Capitol Hill to so strongly embrace a variant of Ryan’s approach. And Ryan has accepted more flexibility than the Medicare approach in the House budget.

Wyden insists the plan would be designed in ways that would preserve the safety net for the elderly.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1211/70459.html#ixzz23XBQJCd2

So what you've been hearing from the Democrats are all lies. The same as they are lying to you about Romney's tax plan, which doesn't raise taxes on anyone and actually reduces taxes on the middle classe

 

[Sgt Staples]

It's amazing to me how there are some triple-dippers (i.e. military retirement 20+ yrs., retirement from employment in a government agency 20+ yrs., and Social Security.) who support Romney/Ryan. I know a 75 year old retired master sergeant and IRS retiree who gets all of these checks from the federal government and still will vote for Romney anyway. That is when it's more important to be a Republican than to vote one's own best interest.

Guess you don't understand the difference between earned benefits and handouts to the free riders who don't contribute a damn thing to anyone or anything. There's 900 billion a years being spend on them. Anything for the school breakfast, lunch and dinner programs to medicaid to food stamps.

Military people EARNED their benefits----the HARD WAY.

 

[TwoWitnesses]

As long as you understand what the word "entitlements" really means. Those on Social Security disablilty or VA disability have also earned those benefits. They are "entitled" to that money as promised by the federal government. I hear so much complaining from the right about government entitlements, and Rolls Royce wants to cut these. Military retirement and civil service pensions are next.

 

[Sgt Staples]

As I have pointed out before, even basic primates understand the concept of Diminishing Marginal Utility..... Do you?

I understand that anyone that supports your theory suffers from Diminished Mental Capacity.

I'll tell you what else I understand, The free market, Capitalism, Individual Liberty and a Limited government that protects those things by arresting people who steal the prosperity of others is what made this country great, not Marxist wealth re-distribution, not socialized medicine that is impossible to pay for, not food stamps and not free school lunches.

All those latter things are what is destroying Americas economy and Americans prosperity and liberty.

 

[PhilFish]

Is it not also true that those who unfortunately wind up on the unlucky end of the spectrum also have to contribute a fair share to said support structure?

 

[gabriel]

your unregulated financial system is what DESTROYED your country.