What would it take...

[Boltlady]

Yes, what would it take for people to stop thinking parties and even whodunnit and take an honest look at what is happening in our country today? If people would treat this as a class assignment or even just a hypothetical, could logic then apply as to whether things are good or bad for the population in general and what would be the best ways to make it all better?

We seem to be making a very abrupt switch from capitalism to socialism without any balanced transition at all. The poorest amongst us are faring the worst but are being given lots of promises about how great things will be once the transition is completed. Subsisting on promises is tricky at best.

Back in the old days when we were taught civics we were shown how great socialism and communism looked on paper as the way to live. We were then given many examples of what happens to it all when the human factor is included and just how bad that makes it become.

We're now starting to see for ourselves how self absorbed the humans become when they are given too much control over us. Cruelty and complete lack of caring sets in.

It could all be fixed if people would look at our situation objectively instead of which party or person gets advanced.

 

[Jen]

Yes, what would it take for people to stop thinking parties and even whodunnit and take an honest look at what is happening in our country today? If people would treat this as a class assignment or even just a hypothetical, could logic then apply as to whether things are good or bad for the population in general and what would be the best ways to make it all better?

We seem to be making a very abrupt switch from capitalism to socialism without any balanced transition at all. The poorest amongst us are faring the worst but are being given lots of promises about how great things will be once the transition is completed. Subsisting on promises is tricky at best.

Back in the old days when we were taught civics we were shown how great socialism and communism looked on paper as the way to live. We were then given many examples of what happens to it all when the human factor is included and just how bad that makes it become.

We're now starting to see for ourselves how self absorbed the humans become when they are given too much control over us. Cruelty and complete lack of caring sets in.

It could all be fixed if people would look at our situation objectively instead of which party or person gets advanced.

This whole thing is not about parties. We are well beyond that The Democrat and Republican Parties have been taking us in the same direction - toward Global Communism - for a long time. Both Bush presidents were openly Globalist so it goes back at least that far.

The Elite keep us divided by race, party, gender and anything else they can come up with in order to keep us from realizing what is really going on.

People are slowly but surely waking up to what's going on but since the Media and most search engines favor Globalism, it is not an easy process.

We are in the final steps. Our economy will be in ruin, our grocery store shelves will be empty and people will beg for the government to take control and save us. And the government will do exactly that. We will be totally dependent on government .... under Communism.

Some of us have been warning of this for years. You have, I have, We are scoffed at and ridiculed. But we are right. The problem with Communism is that a nation enters it bloodlessly when its people are desperate. But it takes a bloody war to leave it.

 

[Boltlady]

This whole thing is not about parties. We are well beyond that The Democrat and Republican Parties have been taking us in the same direction - toward Global Communism - for a long time. Both Bush presidents were openly Globalist so it goes back at least that far.

The Elite keep us divided by race, party, gender and anything else they can come up with in order to keep us from realizing what is really going on.

People are slowly but surely waking up to what's going on but since the Media and most search engines favor Globalism, it is not an easy process.

We are in the final steps. Our economy will be in ruin, our grocery store shelves will be empty and people will beg for the government to take control and save us. And the government will do exactly that. We will be totally dependent on government .... under Communism.

Some of us have been warning of this for years. You have, I have, We are scoffed at and ridiculed. But we are right. The problem with Communism is that a nation enters it bloodlessly when its people are desperate. But it takes a bloody war to leave it.

Yup, even though I said the changeover is abrupt it's actually been in the works for decades. It is abrupt to those who haven't realized that it's been going on. It's just finally becoming more obvious to them. (I remember when GWB said the constitution was nothing more than a GD piece of paper.)

I disagree that it's not about the parties. While it is true that they are much the same, people continuously blame the other one. It's how information is presented to people. Bad things are attributed to the other party while good things belong to the one in power. It's a verbal civil war which might even progress beyond verbal. Makes it easier to control us because we stay busy 'fighting' with each other. That's why I said that people should move away from the party thing so they could find out that our goals are pretty much the same.

 

[Jen]

Yup, even though I said the changeover is abrupt it's actually been in the works for decades. It is abrupt to those who haven't realized that it's been going on. It's just finally becoming more obvious to them. (I remember when GWB said the constitution was nothing more than a GD piece of paper.)

I disagree that it's not about the parties. While it is true that they are much the same, people continuously blame the other one. It's how information is presented to people. Bad things are attributed to the other party while good things belong to the one in power. It's a verbal civil war which might even progress beyond verbal. Makes it easier to control us because we stay busy 'fighting' with each other. That's why I said that people should move away from the party thing so they could find out that our goals are pretty much the same.

The party thing is just a distraction for us. What made that clear to me was the election of Donald Trump. He wasn't part of that Elite system so he was hated by both parties.

The Democrat Party controls things by violence and killing its opponents and the Republican Party is controlled opposition. Notice that when Republicans were in full control.......nothing was done to fix anything. Well.......just enough was done so that Democrats could scream about it, but it was really a big load of nothing.

Trump upset their little apple cart and they are still going after Trump although he isn't even president anymore. Even Republicans are going after him.

Real Republicans are not the problem although many of them have backed away from the whole thing (Trey Gowdy, Jason Chaffits for two examples). Democrats have infiltrated the GOP: Liz Cheney who is a chip off her evil dad's ole block, Mitt Romney, and a host of others.

At the moment real Republicans are starting to stand up. Take a look at what is happening in Nebraska right now. I won't go into it here but take a look.

There is a shift. A real battle is coming. I don't know what it's going to look like but the battle is for our Constitutional Republic's survival.

 

[middleview]

The party thing is just a distraction for us. What made that clear to me was the election of Donald Trump. He wasn't part of that Elite system so he was hated by both parties.

The Democrat Party controls things by violence and killing its opponents and the Republican Party is controlled opposition. Notice that when Republicans were in full control.......nothing was done to fix anything. Well.......just enough was done so that Democrats could scream about it, but it was really a big load of nothing.

Trump upset their little apple cart and they are still going after Trump although he isn't even president anymore. Even Republicans are going after him.

Real Republicans are not the problem although many of them have backed away from the whole thing (Trey Gowdy, Jason Chaffits for two examples). Democrats have infiltrated the GOP: Liz Cheney who is a chip off her evil dad's ole block, Mitt Romney, and a host of others.

At the moment real Republicans are starting to stand up. Take a look at what is happening in Nebraska right now. I won't go into it here but take a look.

There is a shift. A real battle is coming. I don't know what it's going to look like but the battle is for our Constitutional Republic's survival.

Really? The democratic party kills people? So much for your appeal to be kind.

Trump incited a riot in an attempt to stay in power. He was supported by many republicans...even after having condemned him on Jan 6...they hurriedly abandoned honest criticism of his coup....and tried to blame the FBI or Antifa or Pelosi.

If Trump had succeeded it would have been the end of our democracy.

 

[EatTheRich]

Yes, what would it take for people to stop thinking parties and even whodunnit and take an honest look at what is happening in our country today? If people would treat this as a class assignment or even just a hypothetical, could logic then apply as to whether things are good or bad for the population in general and what would be the best ways to make it all better?

We seem to be making a very abrupt switch from capitalism to socialism without any balanced transition at all. The poorest amongst us are faring the worst but are being given lots of promises about how great things will be once the transition is completed. Subsisting on promises is tricky at best.

Back in the old days when we were taught civics we were shown how great socialism and communism looked on paper as the way to live. We were then given many examples of what happens to it all when the human factor is included and just how bad that makes it become.

We're now starting to see for ourselves how self absorbed the humans become when they are given too much control over us. Cruelty and complete lack of caring sets in.

It could all be fixed if people would look at our situation objectively instead of which party or person gets advanced.

We are nowhere close to the point of socialist revolution. A more accurate characterization of what is happening in the U.S. would be that capitalism is in a long period of acute crisis which is reflected in mutually reinforcing shocks that are causing major harm to many. And the long-term failure of capitalism and the lack of a vanguard party capable of leading a revolution ensures that such will be the situation for some time to come.

 

[EatTheRich]

This whole thing is not about parties. We are well beyond that The Democrat and Republican Parties have been taking us in the same direction - toward Global Communism - for a long time. Both Bush presidents were openly Globalist so it goes back at least that far.

The Elite keep us divided by race, party, gender and anything else they can come up with in order to keep us from realizing what is really going on.

People are slowly but surely waking up to what's going on but since the Media and most search engines favor Globalism, it is not an easy process.

We are in the final steps. Our economy will be in ruin, our grocery store shelves will be empty and people will beg for the government to take control and save us. And the government will do exactly that. We will be totally dependent on government .... under Communism.

Some of us have been warning of this for years. You have, I have, We are scoffed at and ridiculed. But we are right. The problem with Communism is that a nation enters it bloodlessly when its people are desperate. But it takes a bloody war to leave it.

It takes a bloody war to roll back the clock from socialism to capitalism because people who have lived under socialism defend it tooth and nail. The ruling class parties have no interest in killing their golden goose and destroying their political power by leading us toward communism by putting the workers in control of government. Or destroying the citadel of capitalism, the U.S.

Of course for the most part they aren’t paleoconservative isolationist dolts, because they understand that the U.S. will stagnate unless it engages in global commerce and wields its muscle on a global scale.

 

[EatTheRich]

The party thing is just a distraction for us. What made that clear to me was the election of Donald Trump. He wasn't part of that Elite system so he was hated by both parties.

The Democrat Party controls things by violence and killing its opponents and the Republican Party is controlled opposition. Notice that when Republicans were in full control.......nothing was done to fix anything. Well.......just enough was done so that Democrats could scream about it, but it was really a big load of nothing.

Trump upset their little apple cart and they are still going after Trump although he isn't even president anymore. Even Republicans are going after him.

Real Republicans are not the problem although many of them have backed away from the whole thing (Trey Gowdy, Jason Chaffits for two examples). Democrats have infiltrated the GOP: Liz Cheney who is a chip off her evil dad's ole block, Mitt Romney, and a host of others.

At the moment real Republicans are starting to stand up. Take a look at what is happening in Nebraska right now. I won't go into it here but take a look.

There is a shift. A real battle is coming. I don't know what it's going to look like but the battle is for our Constitutional Republic's survival.

Trump was not only part of the ruling class’s capitalist system … he was personally one of the nation’s billionaire rulers. He was hated by many of the elite because his incompetent buffoonery and shameless self-dealing meant a huge loss in wealth and prestige for the U.S.

Almost anyone killed for their political beliefs in the U.S. is a leftist (Julius and Ethel Rosenberg, Medgar Evers, Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, Black Panther martyrs, Greensboro martyrs, Sandra Bland). Occasionally the same is done to critics of the government on the right such as the Waco victims or Lavoy Finicum.

When the Democrats are in power they try their best to outdo the Republicans in pushing the Republican agenda. When the Republicans are in power they steamroll the feckless Democratic opposition.

Liz Cheney and Mitt Romney would have been welcome in the party of Reagan. Donald Trump and Marjorie Taylor Greene would not.

 

[saltydancin]

Yup, even though I said the changeover is abrupt it's actually been in the works for decades. It is abrupt to those who haven't realized that it's been going on. It's just finally becoming more obvious to them. (I remember when GWB said the constitution was nothing more than a GD piece of paper.)

Those burning Bush's 9/11 Islam "death to the infidels" Federal Lynching KKK churchstate of hate fiefdom drug trafficking enforcement thieving US Constitution arsonists Freudian slips of their not so master race malfeasance & failure of Rehnquist's Fourth Reich totalitarianism to nuke Temple Mount 9/11 reprisals so the Catholic Church could collect with Islamidiotocracy utilizing Federal Lynching KKK churchstate of hate fiefdom drug trafficking reprisals are just suicidal super ego beyond the pleasure principle national religion survival of the fittest fascists problems of pseudoscience politics.