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Wisconsin Legislature defends 2nd Amendment and violate the 1st Amendment!

The Wisconsin Legislature is approving a motion to allow for concealed carry in the legislative building, and thus defending the right to bear arms. So they say they are defending the 2nd Amendment. At the same time the are outlawing a person in the gallary from wearing any shirt that has a message on it and doing so will have you ejected from the building. Thus they are violating the right to free speech and thus the 1st Amendment. Now I have no problem with not allowing signs or yelling in the legislative chambers, but outlawing shirts with messages seems to be a clear violation of the 1st Amendment, unless the message is an obscene nature.
 
It sounds pretty obscure to just pick that thing to outlaw in a courtroom. I wonder if people weren't using messages on T-Shirts to pass info to each other in court, or to intimidate a witness or something. You know if you were testifying against someone and their brother came in wearing a T-shirt that said "Rats Die" or something like that.... it could be a form of intimidation. So, they may have figured rather than interpreting the intent of every shirt - they would just disallow them.

connie
 
It still seems like it is a strange sort of rule to have come about if there was not some specific issue they were trying to combat.

connie
 
Oh. Where does the first ammendment mention "Obscene Nature". Where does it say you can't yell "Fire" in a crowded theater. Lefty has been eroding the constitution for so long now they can't even remember when it started.
 
The Wisconsin Legislature is approving a motion to allow for concealed carry in the legislative building, and thus defending the right to bear arms. So they say they are defending the 2nd Amendment. At the same time the are outlawing a person in the gallary from wearing any shirt that has a message on it and doing so will have you ejected from the building. Thus they are violating the right to free speech and thus the 1st Amendment. Now I have no problem with not allowing signs or yelling in the legislative chambers, but outlawing shirts with messages seems to be a clear violation of the 1st Amendment, unless the message is an obscene nature.
I bet a shoot-out between Dem and Rep Legislators there would surely make the news. Even in the Old West, state lawmakers never carried guns. It seems these Reps are even transcending Hollywood to make Wi laws drafted by "wannabe Rambos".

It seems reps have bypassed the Ole West
 
It would appear that way. But, I don't think you wake up one morning and decide that the best course of action is to eliminate T-shirts with slogans and messages on them for the hell of it. Now whether or not it is warranted or in violation of the first amendment. I am curious to know what precipitated the rule.


connie
 
It sounds pretty obscure to just pick that thing to outlaw in a courtroom. I wonder if people weren't using messages on T-Shirts to pass info to each other in court, or to intimidate a witness or something. You know if you were testifying against someone and their brother came in wearing a T-shirt that said "Rats Die" or something like that.... it could be a form of intimidation. So, they may have figured rather than interpreting the intent of every shirt - they would just disallow them.

connie

But a guy sitting in the courtroom with a gun strapped to his leg wouldn't be intimidating Connie? Really?
 
I would imagine that would depend on who you were, if you were armed and who the guy was. In general yes, I find guns and people who carry them intimidating. I am not making an issue of the relative intimidation factor. I just feel like something must have precipitated the whole T shirt thing and I would like to know what it was before I weigh in on the appropriateness of the rule.

connie
 
Connie, it was passed by the GOP controlled legislature because people were in the gallery with t-shirts that made statements against what the GOp was doing. Not obscene, just against what the GOp was doing and they wouldn't stand for that.
 
The Wisconsin Legislature is approving a motion to allow for concealed carry in the legislative building, and thus defending the right to bear arms. So they say they are defending the 2nd Amendment. At the same time the are outlawing a person in the gallary from wearing any shirt that has a message on it and doing so will have you ejected from the building. Thus they are violating the right to free speech and thus the 1st Amendment. Now I have no problem with not allowing signs or yelling in the legislative chambers, but outlawing shirts with messages seems to be a clear violation of the 1st Amendment, unless the message is an obscene nature.

Can you give us a link>?
 
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