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Worst refugee crisis since WWII

Europe's refugee crisis has been dubbed the worst since WWII with a record number of 107,500 asylum seekers crossing the EU's borders in July. Tens of thousands of people are fleeing war and poverty in the Middle East and North Africa to start a new life in Europe, but many meet a tragic end there..............

http://www.rt.com/news/314206-refugee-crisis-migrants-europe/

Russia has frequently warned of major problems which Europe would face as a result of Western policies in the Middle East and North Africa and jihadist groups terrorizing people, so the current refugee crisis in the EU doesn’t come as a surprise, said the President of Russia.
TrendsEU refugee & migrant influx, Islamic State
“I think the crisis was absolutely expected,” President Vladimir Putin told journalists at the Eastern Economic Forum in Vladivostok.

“We in Russia, and me personally a few years ago, said it straight that pervasive problems would emerge, if our so-called Western partners continue maintaining their flawed ... foreign policy, especially in the regions of the Muslim world, Middle East, North Africa, which they pursue to date,” said Putin.

LIVE UPDATES: Worst refugee crisis since WWII

According to the Russian president, the main flaw of Western foreign policy is the imposition of their own standards worldwide without taking into account the historical, religious, national and cultural characteristics of particular regions.

The only way to reverse the refugee flow streaming into Europe is to help people resolve problems at home. And the first step should be by creating a common and united front against jihadist groups such as Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS/ISIL) and fighting them at their core.

“We really want to form some kind of an international coalition, therefore we conduct consultations with our US partners,”Putin said, noting that he spoke about it with President Obama.

However it is premature to discuss “direct” Russian involvement in military actions against ISIS, needless to say joining the US-led coalition, as Moscow is currently considering “other options,” said Putin.

The issue of rebuilding local economies and social spheres to convince terrified people to move back would only arise after terrorism is rooted out, Russian President said. But international support for rebuilding the statehood of the countries which have suffered at the hand of ISIS should only occur with full respect for history, culture and local traditions.

“But if we act unilaterally and argue about the quasi-democratic principles and procedures for certain areas, that will lead us to an even greater impasse,” Putin concluded.

The Russian leader emphasized that he was being critical to figure out “what is happening, and what to do next,” rather than to tease or to point out that Western policies were “shortsighted.”

Putin noted that the US is not facing a refugee crisis of the same magnitude as the EU, which has been “blindly following American orders.”

Prior to Putin’s speech, the Russian Foreign Ministry said that the EU could actually learn something from Russia in terms of offering proper living conditions to those fleeing conflict zones.

Reminding Brussels of Russia’s experience in dealing with the influx of civilians fleeing Kiev’s so-called “anti-terrorist operation” in neighboring Ukraine, the ministry's spokeswoman, Maria Zakharova said that hundreds of thousands of refugees who fled to Russia were provided with “shelter, food and aid.”

https://www.rt.com/news/314318-putin-vladivostok-eu-migrants/

The only way to reverse the refugee flow streaming into Europe is to help people resolve problems at home. And the first step should be by creating a common and united front against jihadist groups such as Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS/ISIL) and fighting them at their core.

THE CORE what would you say that was, 'the core' ? That is my question to you, in your assessment, not your Govs but your own.
 
Europe's refugee crisis has been dubbed the worst since WWII with a record number of 107,500 asylum seekers crossing the EU's borders in July. Tens of thousands of people are fleeing war and poverty in the Middle East and North Africa to start a new life in Europe, but many meet a tragic end there..............

http://www.rt.com/news/314206-refugee-crisis-migrants-europe/

Russia has frequently warned of major problems which Europe would face as a result of Western policies in the Middle East and North Africa and jihadist groups terrorizing people, so the current refugee crisis in the EU doesn’t come as a surprise, said the President of Russia.
TrendsEU refugee & migrant influx, Islamic State
“I think the crisis was absolutely expected,” President Vladimir Putin told journalists at the Eastern Economic Forum in Vladivostok.

“We in Russia, and me personally a few years ago, said it straight that pervasive problems would emerge, if our so-called Western partners continue maintaining their flawed ... foreign policy, especially in the regions of the Muslim world, Middle East, North Africa, which they pursue to date,” said Putin.

LIVE UPDATES: Worst refugee crisis since WWII

According to the Russian president, the main flaw of Western foreign policy is the imposition of their own standards worldwide without taking into account the historical, religious, national and cultural characteristics of particular regions.

The only way to reverse the refugee flow streaming into Europe is to help people resolve problems at home. And the first step should be by creating a common and united front against jihadist groups such as Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS/ISIL) and fighting them at their core.

“We really want to form some kind of an international coalition, therefore we conduct consultations with our US partners,”Putin said, noting that he spoke about it with President Obama.

However it is premature to discuss “direct” Russian involvement in military actions against ISIS, needless to say joining the US-led coalition, as Moscow is currently considering “other options,” said Putin.

The issue of rebuilding local economies and social spheres to convince terrified people to move back would only arise after terrorism is rooted out, Russian President said. But international support for rebuilding the statehood of the countries which have suffered at the hand of ISIS should only occur with full respect for history, culture and local traditions.

“But if we act unilaterally and argue about the quasi-democratic principles and procedures for certain areas, that will lead us to an even greater impasse,” Putin concluded.

The Russian leader emphasized that he was being critical to figure out “what is happening, and what to do next,” rather than to tease or to point out that Western policies were “shortsighted.”

Putin noted that the US is not facing a refugee crisis of the same magnitude as the EU, which has been “blindly following American orders.”

Prior to Putin’s speech, the Russian Foreign Ministry said that the EU could actually learn something from Russia in terms of offering proper living conditions to those fleeing conflict zones.

Reminding Brussels of Russia’s experience in dealing with the influx of civilians fleeing Kiev’s so-called “anti-terrorist operation” in neighboring Ukraine, the ministry's spokeswoman, Maria Zakharova said that hundreds of thousands of refugees who fled to Russia were provided with “shelter, food and aid.”

https://www.rt.com/news/314318-putin-vladivostok-eu-migrants/

The only way to reverse the refugee flow streaming into Europe is to help people resolve problems at home. And the first step should be by creating a common and united front against jihadist groups such as Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS/ISIL) and fighting them at their core.

THE CORE what would you say that was, 'the core' ? That is my question to you, in your assessment, not your Govs but your own.

Most of us know that for my part I fully believe that this is all deliberate to create a scenario for our march to the NWO. Ultimately the world will be offered a 'solution' to this particular dilemma. In the meantime of course it goes along with the breaking down of 'national pride' in the countries that it's affecting.

As for Putin's advice, I'm just a little on the fence there. With the various steps that he's been taking for some time he does come off as being the one to help lead the world out of this mess. Is that because his intentions are good, or is he playing 'good cop, bad cop'?
 
historians might beg to differ, and ask us to consider:

  • the portioning of india and Pakistan, the millions who were displaced
  • tribal/ethnic conflicts in Africa over the last 20 years, which resulted in 800,000 deaths
 
This is absolutely a horrible crisis. I'm just surprised it's happening, given Obama's outlook on the Middle East when he campaigned in 2007.

I believe the recent history start of this is Bush/Obama policies, though Obama seems to have found a way to help make things even worse than Bush left them.

If I’m reaching out to the Muslim world they understand that I’ve lived in a Muslim country and I may be a Christian, but I also understand their point of view … My sister is half-Indonesian. I traveled there all the way through my college years. And so I’m intimately concerned with what happens in these countries and the cultures and perspective these folks have. And those are powerful tools for us to be able to reach out to the world … then I think the world will have confidence that I am listening to them and that our future and our security is tied up with our ability to work with other countries in the world that will ultimately makes us safer.

http://mittromneycentral.com/2012/0...gurated-muslim-hostility-will-ease-laughable/
 
historians might beg to differ, and ask us to consider:

  • the portioning of india and Pakistan, the millions who were displaced
  • tribal/ethnic conflicts in Africa over the last 20 years, which resulted in 800,000 deaths

You honestly have absolutely no idea of what is happening here, do you?

And that was not the question I asked -
 
Most of us know that for my part I fully believe that this is all deliberate to create a scenario for our march to the NWO. Ultimately the world will be offered a 'solution' to this particular dilemma. In the meantime of course it goes along with the breaking down of 'national pride' in the countries that it's affecting.

As for Putin's advice, I'm just a little on the fence there. With the various steps that he's been taking for some time he does come off as being the one to help lead the world out of this mess. Is that because his intentions are good, or is he playing 'good cop, bad cop'?

Putin is OK, I agree one is still a little wary, he is a political animal after all --- but though economically he will be working for Russian interests, I truly think he is doing his best to find a way for the World to stabilize --- That he wants stability.

He is the best hope we have ------------ the rest are rotten.
 
This is absolutely a horrible crisis. I'm just surprised it's happening, given Obama's outlook on the Middle East when he campaigned in 2007.

I believe the recent history start of this is Bush/Obama policies, though Obama seems to have found a way to help make things even worse than Bush left them.


Obama's Red line in the Sand???
 
Europe's refugee crisis has been dubbed the worst since WWII with a record number of 107,500 asylum seekers crossing the EU's borders in July. Tens of thousands of people are fleeing war and poverty in the Middle East and North Africa to start a new life in Europe, but many meet a tragic end there..............

http://www.rt.com/news/314206-refugee-crisis-migrants-europe/

Russia has frequently warned of major problems which Europe would face as a result of Western policies in the Middle East and North Africa and jihadist groups terrorizing people, so the current refugee crisis in the EU doesn’t come as a surprise, said the President of Russia.
TrendsEU refugee & migrant influx, Islamic State
“I think the crisis was absolutely expected,” President Vladimir Putin told journalists at the Eastern Economic Forum in Vladivostok.

“We in Russia, and me personally a few years ago, said it straight that pervasive problems would emerge, if our so-called Western partners continue maintaining their flawed ... foreign policy, especially in the regions of the Muslim world, Middle East, North Africa, which they pursue to date,” said Putin.

LIVE UPDATES: Worst refugee crisis since WWII

According to the Russian president, the main flaw of Western foreign policy is the imposition of their own standards worldwide without taking into account the historical, religious, national and cultural characteristics of particular regions.

The only way to reverse the refugee flow streaming into Europe is to help people resolve problems at home. And the first step should be by creating a common and united front against jihadist groups such as Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS/ISIL) and fighting them at their core.

“We really want to form some kind of an international coalition, therefore we conduct consultations with our US partners,”Putin said, noting that he spoke about it with President Obama.

However it is premature to discuss “direct” Russian involvement in military actions against ISIS, needless to say joining the US-led coalition, as Moscow is currently considering “other options,” said Putin.

The issue of rebuilding local economies and social spheres to convince terrified people to move back would only arise after terrorism is rooted out, Russian President said. But international support for rebuilding the statehood of the countries which have suffered at the hand of ISIS should only occur with full respect for history, culture and local traditions.

“But if we act unilaterally and argue about the quasi-democratic principles and procedures for certain areas, that will lead us to an even greater impasse,” Putin concluded.

The Russian leader emphasized that he was being critical to figure out “what is happening, and what to do next,” rather than to tease or to point out that Western policies were “shortsighted.”

Putin noted that the US is not facing a refugee crisis of the same magnitude as the EU, which has been “blindly following American orders.”

Prior to Putin’s speech, the Russian Foreign Ministry said that the EU could actually learn something from Russia in terms of offering proper living conditions to those fleeing conflict zones.

Reminding Brussels of Russia’s experience in dealing with the influx of civilians fleeing Kiev’s so-called “anti-terrorist operation” in neighboring Ukraine, the ministry's spokeswoman, Maria Zakharova said that hundreds of thousands of refugees who fled to Russia were provided with “shelter, food and aid.”

https://www.rt.com/news/314318-putin-vladivostok-eu-migrants/

The only way to reverse the refugee flow streaming into Europe is to help people resolve problems at home. And the first step should be by creating a common and united front against jihadist groups such as Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS/ISIL) and fighting them at their core.

THE CORE what would you say that was, 'the core' ? That is my question to you, in your assessment, not your Govs but your own.

I have always been against "nation building" for these reasons. You simply can not change countrie's culture and traditions over night. Not even in several generations. And, like most things that require a lot of personal sacrifice and change, the individual people themselves must be ready, willing and wanting to change. Since most people don't actually see a "problem" with their culture they are not generally really motivated to change, or change all that much.

Which is why we need to avoid trying to tell how other countries need to act or handle their own problems. And, why we need to make sure that we limit immigration to those people who are truly ready willing and able to make the changes necessary personally to adopt an entirely new culture.

Ron White said, you can't fix stupid. And, that doesn't really apply here since other cultures are not "stupid" but you can't "fix" people you just can't. They either want to embrace a new situation for themselves or they do not. That is why you simply can't take a person out of the ghetto and stick them in an upscale neighborhood and expect them to no longer be ghetto. They have to first have made the determination that ghetto is bad, that upscale neighbor style life is better, and that they will do the hard work to fit in and change and adapt. Its why you can't fix an addict - they have to fix themselves and work at fixing themselves every day for the rest of their lives. In the same way we can't take democracy to people who have only known oppression and curtailing of freedoms. They know nothing else. Its part of who they are, their culture, their very DNA - you have to allow them to make the babysteps on their own and want it for themselves. And, the west forgets that we are where we are after about 1000 or more years worth of work. We can't actually speed that up for anyone else, either.


connie
 
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