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WTF? Whose side are these people even on? Apparently not ours....

Barbella

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Here's this member of the Muslim Brotherhood, a close associate of Hamas, Hezbollah, and the Palestinian Islamic Jihad... removed from the DHS "watchlist", and permitted to enter the US.
“I am puzzled how someone could be a member of the Muslim Brotherhood, indicted as a co-conspirator in the Holy Land Foundation trail … say that the U.S. is staging car bombings in Iraq … and be afforded the luxury of a visitor visa and de-watchlisted,”

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/05/08/hands-off-list/?intcmp=latestnews

What is the rationale behind this insanity? IS there one? Or is it all a sinister plot to decimate America and "bring her to her knees"? Are these people secretly HOPING for a major terrorist attack within our borders? Are they purposely playing into the hands of the enemy?
 
Here's this member of the Muslim Brotherhood, a close associate of Hamas, Hezbollah, and the Palestinian Islamic Jihad... removed from the DHS "watchlist", and permitted to enter the US.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/05/08/hands-off-list/?intcmp=latestnews

What is the rationale behind this insanity? IS there one? Or is it all a sinister plot to decimate America and "bring her to her knees"? Are these people secretly HOPING for a major terrorist attack within our borders? Are they purposely playing into the hands of the enemy?
Just a bit of conjecture, but the administration knows that democrats are on their way out of power. Could be they are importing terrorists into the US with the deal that once republicans take power, these terrorists can cause whatever destruction they can.

I hate thinking that people can be so obsessed with power that they're willing to burn the country to the ground to keep it, but democrats have shown that they are more than willing to do just that.
 
Just a bit of conjecture, but the administration knows that democrats are on their way out of power. Could be they are importing terrorists into the US with the deal that once republicans take power, these terrorists can cause whatever destruction they can.

I hate thinking that people can be so obsessed with power that they're willing to burn the country to the ground to keep it, but democrats have shown that they are more than willing to do just that.

You know... I had thoughts similar to yours, but then I said to myself "Nah, that can't be it"... but my gut feeling is that yeah, it CAN be...

Horrible thought.
 
Here's this member of the Muslim Brotherhood, a close associate of Hamas, Hezbollah, and the Palestinian Islamic Jihad... removed from the DHS "watchlist", and permitted to enter the US.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/05/08/hands-off-list/?intcmp=latestnews

What is the rationale behind this insanity? IS there one? Or is it all a sinister plot to decimate America and "bring her to her knees"? Are these people secretly HOPING for a major terrorist attack within our borders? Are they purposely playing into the hands of the enemy?

.....he didn't say who the guy was. So some anonymous individual from somewhere in the Middle East who it seems was a card carrying member of the Muslim Brotherhood (I wonder how we got to see their membership list) and is a "close associate" of Hamas, Hezbollah and the Islamic Jihad...(probably got Christmas cards last year from all three groups)....is now coming to the US.

Grassley's "revelation" of the person removed from the watchlist sounds a lot like this to me

I have here in my hand a list of 205 . . . a list of names that were made known to the Secretary of State as being members of the Communist Party and who nevertheless are still working and shaping policy in the State Department
 
.....he didn't say who the guy was. So some anonymous individual from somewhere in the Middle East who it seems was a card carrying member of the Muslim Brotherhood (I wonder how we got to see their membership list) and is a "close associate" of Hamas, Hezbollah and the Islamic Jihad...(probably got Christmas cards last year from all three groups)....is now coming to the US.

I agree with you on this. There are apparently an awful lot of "people who are in a position to know" who care so much about an issue that lately they choose to give an issue credence by not identifying themselves.
 
I agree with you on this. There are apparently an awful lot of "people who are in a position to know" who care so much about an issue that lately they choose to give an issue credence by not identifying themselves.

Then the linked article makes it seem even more of a conspiracy because the government official that Grassley confronts doesn't have an answer...I wonder if it is because some Tea Party wackjob handed Grassley a vague note which no more info that what the top post links to and the Homeland security folks know nothing of what Grassley is talking about.....
 
Then the linked article makes it seem even more of a conspiracy because the government official that Grassley confronts doesn't have an answer...I wonder if it is because some Tea Party wackjob handed Grassley a vague note which no more info that what the top post links to and the Homeland security folks know nothing of what Grassley is talking about.....

There are things I want to see in a news report. For example, who what where when how why....that's it. All of this "someone told us some bullshit was happening and we were like "no way" "bullcrap needs to stop. If the man referred to in the story is an issue then don't just tell us what he allegedly did, tell us who in our government he made a deal with because he obviously made a deal.
 
Here's this member of the Muslim Brotherhood, a close associate of Hamas, Hezbollah, and the Palestinian Islamic Jihad... removed from the DHS "watchlist", and permitted to enter the US.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/05/08/hands-off-list/?intcmp=latestnews

What is the rationale behind this insanity? IS there one? Or is it all a sinister plot to decimate America and "bring her to her knees"? Are these people secretly HOPING for a major terrorist attack within our borders? Are they purposely playing into the hands of the enemy?
If you heard it on Fox, it must be a lie...LOL
 
Here's this member of the Muslim Brotherhood, a close associate of Hamas, Hezbollah, and the Palestinian Islamic Jihad... removed from the DHS "watchlist", and permitted to enter the US.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/05/08/hands-off-list/?intcmp=latestnews

What is the rationale behind this insanity? IS there one? Or is it all a sinister plot to decimate America and "bring her to her knees"? Are these people secretly HOPING for a major terrorist attack within our borders? Are they purposely playing into the hands of the enemy?

Hell, the Obama cartel was more likely to expedite his visa than deny him entry.
 
Then the linked article makes it seem even more of a conspiracy because the government official that Grassley confronts doesn't have an answer...I wonder if it is because some Tea Party wackjob handed Grassley a vague note which no more info that what the top post links to and the Homeland security folks know nothing of what Grassley is talking about.....
That's it. Ignore the whole thing. Make it a Tea Party conspiracy. When the country goes down the tubes, remember that, will you.
 
That's it. Ignore the whole thing. Make it a Tea Party conspiracy. When the country goes down the tubes, remember that, will you.

Yeah...when the country goes down the tubes because people were stupid enough to elect another George W....I'll remind you.
 
Yep. As always, sticking their heads in the sand, and blame the messenger.

Re-read your post. Exactly what information was Grassley privy to that he revealed to us? What is the guy's name? We have no way to actually investigate Grassley's allegation....to me that makes it pretty much useless.
 
Re-read your post. Exactly what information was Grassley privy to that he revealed to us? What is the guy's name? We have no way to actually investigate Grassley's allegation....to me that makes it pretty much useless.

Why would you even doubt it?

Egypt’s Rose El-Youssef magazine, which asserted that six highly-placed Muslim Brotherhood infiltrators within the Obama administration had transformed the United States “from a position hostile to Islamic groups and organizations in the world to the largest and most important supporter of the Muslim Brotherhood.” (A translation of the article is available from the Investigative Project here.)

According to the Investigative Project, “the six named people include: Arif Alikhan, assistant secretary of Homeland Security for policy development; Mohammed Elibiary, a member of the Homeland Security Advisory Council; Rashad Hussain, the U.S. special envoy to the Organization of the Islamic Conference; Salam al-Marayati, co-founder of the Muslim Public Affairs Council (MPAC); Imam Mohamed Magid, president of the Islamic Society of North America (ISNA); and Eboo Patel, a member of President Obama’s Advisory Council on Faith-Based Neighborhood Partnerships. These represent many of the individuals and groups about whom Bachmann had raised concerns.

This section of Discover The Networks profiles these and other Islamists who have influenced, or have been appointed to positions within, the Obama administration. Also included in this section are a number of Islamists who have not officially been connected to the Obama administration, but who have had a significant influence on Obama's thinking over the course of his life.

Moreover, this section contains a link to a profile of the Barack H. Obama Foundation (BHOF), which was established in 2008 by Abon'go Malik Obama, President Obama's half-brother, a Kenyan-born Muslim with twelve wives. Abon'go Malik Obama is:
  • the overseer of the Muslim Brotherhood’s international investments;
  • the executive secretary of the Sudan-based Islamic Da’wa Organization (IDO), an organization primarily focused on expanding Wahhabist Islam on the African subcontinent; and
  • closely associated with Sudanese President Omar al-Bashir, a jihadist tyrant responsible for the deaths of more than three million people, all in the name of Jihad and war against Christians.

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCategory.asp?id=844
 

Why would I doubt it? Because your sources are just plain silly...This is one of the guys they accuse of having "infiltrated" the administration....

Before serving as Deputy Mayor of Los Angeles, Alikhan was a career prosecutor with the U.S. Department of Justice from 1997-2006. During that time, he served as Chief of the Cyber and Intellectual Crimes Section for the U.S. Attorney’s Office in Los Angeles and as a Senior Advisor to the U.S. Attorney General in Washington, D.C., where he oversaw the national Computer Hacking and Intellectual Property Program for the Department of Justice. Alikhan holds a J.D. from Loyola Law School and a B.A. from the University of California, Irvine.
 
The U.S.A. has an overwhelming advantage over our terr'st counterparts, that they can't overcome. It's our incredibly open society - and the fact that we have 4 Million+ Muslims living here.

I don't know the specifics of THIS, nor if it's even credible. But, I CAN suggest a very good reason why our guvmint might let someone like the anonymous dude in the top-post, into our country with a presumptive "free pass". It would be to track him to see where he goes and who he talks to.

In that case, it'd be really stupid to announce to the world, "Yeah..at first blush it might appear that we shouldn't be letting this guy in but....don't worry, we're just doing it so's we can follow him around".

In a normal politic, a Senator knows better than to make an issue of something like this. The Fox/GOP isn't normal.
 
The U.S.A. has an overwhelming advantage over our terr'st counterparts, that they can't overcome. It's our incredibly open society - and the fact that we have 4 Million+ Muslims living here.

I don't know the specifics of THIS, nor if it's even credible. But, I CAN suggest a very good reason why our guvmint might let someone like the anonymous dude in the top-post, into our country with a presumptive "free pass". It would be to track him to see where he goes and who he talks to.

In that case, it'd be really stupid to announce to the world, "Yeah..at first blush it might appear that we shouldn't be letting this guy in but....don't worry, we're just doing it so's we can follow him around".

In a normal politic, a Senator knows better than to make an issue of something like this. The Fox/GOP isn't normal.

Do you think anything here may be "Putrefied"? Blah blah blah whatever.
 
The U.S.A. has an overwhelming advantage over our terr'st counterparts, that they can't overcome. It's our incredibly open society - and the fact that we have 4 Million+ Muslims living here.

I don't know the specifics of THIS, nor if it's even credible. But, I CAN suggest a very good reason why our guvmint might let someone like the anonymous dude in the top-post, into our country with a presumptive "free pass". It would be to track him to see where he goes and who he talks to.

In that case, it'd be really stupid to announce to the world, "Yeah..at first blush it might appear that we shouldn't be letting this guy in but....don't worry, we're just doing it so's we can follow him around".

In a normal politic, a Senator knows better than to make an issue of something like this. The Fox/GOP isn't normal.
Oh, you mean like they did with the Boston Bombers. Brilliant strategy.
 
Oh, you mean like they did with the Boston Bombers. Brilliant strategy.

I don't know what "they did with" the Boston bombers and I don't know what they did or didn't do with Grassley's guy that exists or doesn't exist. So, I can't answer your question.

It doesn't matter anyway. All's I did was offer up a rationale. I think it remains a reasonable rationale.
 
I don't know what "they did with" the Boston bombers and I don't know what they did or didn't do with Grassley's guy that exists or doesn't exist. So, I can't answer your question.

It doesn't matter anyway. All's I did was offer up a rationale. I think it remains a reasonable rationale.
A rationale goes, it's better than most. Which is one of the reasons I don't credit it to the Obama administration. If I were to go by gut, I am thinking it's more of a political calculation designed to appease a Muslim donor.
 
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