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MEAN GIRLS

drivebyheckler

drivebyheckler

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Lately I have seen a lot of talk about "Mean Girls". Obviously, this needs to be discussed in a generic sense as to comply with forum rules.

But like, oh say "The Affordable Care Act", which has resulted in health care being less affordable overall (of course, it' s windfall for moochers, but that's an entirely different thread and story), I think we have a serious case of mislabeling.

On one side, we have a few vicious people, whose major goal in PJ life is to make sure lots and lots of babies are killed. Even a top cheerleader equates freedom with lots of abortion clinics! In addition to having a lust for dead babies, that side engages in vicious, often false and straw man attacks against others.

On the other side, we have individuals who have respect for life. To these people, it's not about fighting to make sure more babies are killed. It's about individuals living a proper life. But what does proper mean? Sadly, in this day and age of big government, "society owes me!", "pay for my birth control and subsidize my abortion or I'll have this baby and REALLY mooch of you!" mentalities, we have to actually define what that means.

A proper life means you educate yourself, support yourself, manage your own reproductive organs. As a side note, Barack Obama thinks women are inferior and values them less. He thinks men can manage their reproductive organs just fine on their own, but that women are inferior and need government to step in and help. But what would one expect from a president who babbles about equal pay for women out of one side of his mouth, while paying them 13% less out of the other. But I digress...

A proper life means doing all the above, PLUS not having children until you can afford them. Many people have children unexpectedly. Normal, rational people raise those kids or put them up for adoption. And if a "mother" is so hellbent on killing her baby because it's an inconvenient time, FINE! That's an elective medical procedure. And as with any other elective medical procedure, cough up your money and pay for it.

So let's get back to the original point. I submit to you the REAL "Mean Girls" are the ones who think killing a baby for the crime of being conceived at the wrong time is fine. Is there anything meaner than killing a baby who's done nothing wrong? I think the REAL "Mean Girls" are the ones who attack others who simply propose having a little respect for life. I think the REAL "Mean Girls" are the people who think freedom means lots of abortion clinics, with these abortion clinics being subsidized by our tax money. I think the REAL "Mean Girls" are those who think certain women are inferior, can't take responsibility for their lives, and need to be told something like, "there there you little loser. You're dumb. You can't manage your own reproductive organs. Here loser, take this free birth control. Have this abortion at the place we force suckers to subsidize with tax dollars. Oh and loser, here's some food stamps. Just remember to vote Democrat. See those mean people over there? They think you're actually capable of, and expect you to, manage your own reproductive organs and can be a productive member of society. They're MEAN!"

Just who is it that is the "Mean Girls"?
 
drivebyheckler said:
Lately I have seen a lot of talk about "Mean Girls". Obviously, this needs to be discussed in a generic sense as to comply with forum rules.

But like, oh say "The Affordable Care Act", which has resulted in health care being less affordable overall (of course, it' s windfall for moochers, but that's an entirely different thread and story), I think we have a serious case of mislabeling.

On one side, we have a few vicious people, whose major goal in PJ life is to make sure lots and lots of babies are killed. Even a top cheerleader equates freedom with lots of abortion clinics! In addition to having a lust for dead babies, that side engages in vicious, often false and straw man attacks against others.

On the other side, we have individuals who have respect for life. To these people, it's not about fighting to make sure more babies are killed. It's about individuals living a proper life. But what does proper mean? Sadly, in this day and age of big government, "society owes me!", "pay for my birth control and subsidize my abortion or I'll have this baby and REALLY mooch of you!" mentalities, we have to actually define what that means.

A proper life means you educate yourself, support yourself, manage your own reproductive organs. As a side note, Barack Obama thinks women are inferior and values them less. He thinks men can manage their reproductive organs just fine on their own, but that women are inferior and need government to step in and help. But what would one expect from a president who babbles about equal pay for women out of one side of his mouth, while paying them 13% less out of the other. But I digress...

A proper life means doing all the above, PLUS not having children until you can afford them. Many people have children unexpectedly. Normal, rational people raise those kids or put them up for adoption. And if a "mother" is so hellbent on killing her baby because it's an inconvenient time, FINE! That's an elective medical procedure. And as with any other elective medical procedure, cough up your money and pay for it.

So let's get back to the original point. I submit to you the REAL "Mean Girls" are the ones who think killing a baby for the crime of being conceived at the wrong time is fine. Is there anything meaner than killing a baby who's done nothing wrong? I think the REAL "Mean Girls" are the ones who attack others who simply propose having a little respect for life. I think the REAL "Mean Girls" are the people who think freedom means lots of abortion clinics, with these abortion clinics being subsidized by our tax money. I think the REAL "Mean Girls" are those who think certain women are inferior, can't take responsibility for their lives, and need to be told something like, "there there you little loser. You're dumb. You can't manage your own reproductive organs. Here loser, take this free birth control. Have this abortion at the place we force suckers to subsidize with tax dollars. Oh and loser, here's some food stamps. Just remember to vote Democrat. See those mean people over there? They think you're actually capable of, and expect you to, manage your own reproductive organs and can be a productive member of society. They're MEAN!"

Just who is it that is the "Mean Girls"?
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PJ is a fine hodgepodge of easy going contributors, self-congratulatory blowhards who confuse volumes of verbose fluffery for thoughtful content, soul-less party operatives with effectively no free will of their own, and - frankly - several nutcases. A couple of these loons are wild-eyed loons with no filter. Some are strangely unable to contain or organize their often paranoid, and usually monolithic rant topics. One is oddly protected and mothered by a cadre of folks who have apparently gathered elsewhere and agreed to shelter/rescue when in "cyber trouble". One big, happy family.
But "mean"? That's just one more trait selectively observed through the lens of party affiliation. It's less about content or character than it is political utility.
BTW: why is it mean "girls"? Are boys allowed the full menu of posting tone while females must remain restrained by special rules?
There's plenty of grumpiness around these parts. Let's get a better terminology going. Apparently forsaking concerns about perceptions of sexism...How about "Bitter Broads"? "Surly Skirts"? "Dastardly Dames"?
 
RickWA said:
PJ is a fine hodgepodge of easy going contributors, self-congratulatory blowhards who confuse volumes of verbose fluffery for thoughtful content, soul-less party operatives with effectively no free will of their own, and - frankly - several nutcases. A couple of these loons are wild-eyed loons with no filter. Some are strangely unable to contain or organize their often paranoid, and usually monolithic rant topics. One is oddly protected and mothered by a cadre of folks who have apparently gathered elsewhere and agreed to shelter/rescue when in "cyber trouble". One big, happy family.
But "mean"? That's just one more trait selectively observed through the lens of party affiliation. It's less about content or character than it is political utility.
BTW: why is it mean "girls"? Are boys allowed the full menu of posting tone while females must remain restrained by special rules?
There's plenty of grumpiness around these parts. Let's get a better terminology going. Apparently forsaking concerns about perceptions of sexism...How about "Bitter Broads"? "Surly Skirts"? "Dastardly Dames"?
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Excellent summary, Rick. I fully concur. Now I suspect "mean" comes from several things, mostly related to distorted views liberals have.


They'd say it's "mean" to propose that a person feeding themselves via food stamps should use food stamps for actual nutrition and not empty calories like chips, soda, etc. I would say if a person can afford wasting money on chips and soda, then they really don't need food stamps. But no, that's "mean". It's not "mean" to tack that debt onto people not even born yet, but it's "mean" to expect mooches to spend other peoples' money wisely.

Of course, that is just one example of "mean". To a liberal, basically "mean" is expecting able people to be productive members of society. Of course, I could go on with many examples, but really why bother.
 
drivebyheckler said:
Excellent summary, Rick. I fully concur. Now I suspect "mean" comes from several things, mostly related to distorted views liberals have.


They'd say it's "mean" to propose that a person feeding themselves via food stamps should use food stamps for actual nutrition and not empty calories like chips, soda, etc. I would say if a person can afford wasting money on chips and soda, then they really don't need food stamps. But no, that's "mean". It's not "mean" to tack that debt onto people not even born yet, but it's "mean" to expect mooches to spend other peoples' money wisely.

Of course, that is just one example of "mean". To a liberal, basically "mean" is expecting able people to be productive members of society. Of course, I could go on with many examples, but really why bother.
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Yeah, effectively "mean" and "mean-spirited" is a dismissal tactic. Angry posts and insulting language are rarely considered "mean" in service to accepted cause or agenda.
Gotta love PJ. :)
 
drivebyheckler said:
Lately I have seen a lot of talk about "Mean Girls". Obviously, this needs to be discussed in a generic sense as to comply with forum rules.

But like, oh say "The Affordable Care Act", which has resulted in health care being less affordable overall (of course, it' s windfall for moochers, but that's an entirely different thread and story), I think we have a serious case of mislabeling.

On one side, we have a few vicious people, whose major goal in PJ life is to make sure lots and lots of babies are killed. Even a top cheerleader equates freedom with lots of abortion clinics! In addition to having a lust for dead babies, that side engages in vicious, often false and straw man attacks against others.

On the other side, we have individuals who have respect for life. To these people, it's not about fighting to make sure more babies are killed. It's about individuals living a proper life. But what does proper mean? Sadly, in this day and age of big government, "society owes me!", "pay for my birth control and subsidize my abortion or I'll have this baby and REALLY mooch of you!" mentalities, we have to actually define what that means.

A proper life means you educate yourself, support yourself, manage your own reproductive organs. As a side note, Barack Obama thinks women are inferior and values them less. He thinks men can manage their reproductive organs just fine on their own, but that women are inferior and need government to step in and help. But what would one expect from a president who babbles about equal pay for women out of one side of his mouth, while paying them 13% less out of the other. But I digress...

A proper life means doing all the above, PLUS not having children until you can afford them. Many people have children unexpectedly. Normal, rational people raise those kids or put them up for adoption. And if a "mother" is so hellbent on killing her baby because it's an inconvenient time, FINE! That's an elective medical procedure. And as with any other elective medical procedure, cough up your money and pay for it.

So let's get back to the original point. I submit to you the REAL "Mean Girls" are the ones who think killing a baby for the crime of being conceived at the wrong time is fine. Is there anything meaner than killing a baby who's done nothing wrong? I think the REAL "Mean Girls" are the ones who attack others who simply propose having a little respect for life. I think the REAL "Mean Girls" are the people who think freedom means lots of abortion clinics, with these abortion clinics being subsidized by our tax money. I think the REAL "Mean Girls" are those who think certain women are inferior, can't take responsibility for their lives, and need to be told something like, "there there you little loser. You're dumb. You can't manage your own reproductive organs. Here loser, take this free birth control. Have this abortion at the place we force suckers to subsidize with tax dollars. Oh and loser, here's some food stamps. Just remember to vote Democrat. See those mean people over there? They think you're actually capable of, and expect you to, manage your own reproductive organs and can be a productive member of society. They're MEAN!"

Just who is it that is the "Mean Girls"?
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I stopped reading after you wrote the goal of pj ERs is to kill babies.
 
drivebyheckler said:
Excellent summary, Rick. I fully concur. Now I suspect "mean" comes from several things, mostly related to distorted views liberals have.


They'd say it's "mean" to propose that a person feeding themselves via food stamps should use food stamps for actual nutrition and not empty calories like chips, soda, etc. I would say if a person can afford wasting money on chips and soda, then they really don't need food stamps. But no, that's "mean". It's not "mean" to tack that debt onto people not even born yet, but it's "mean" to expect mooches to spend other peoples' money wisely.

Of course, that is just one example of "mean". To a liberal, basically "mean" is expecting able people to be productive members of society. Of course, I could go on with many examples, but really why bother.
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Mean girls is a term for girls who treat other girls poorly...by ganging up on them and creating drama,,,,common in high school...and here
 
Renee said:
Mean girls is sexist because boys can be just as mean....I've seen it,,kids can be mean..... But never in my classroom!
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Indeed Renee. I think boys and girls can be equally mean. And I would argue that perhaps some who say girls are more mean may be looking at it from a lens that simply expects that girls are nicer. I can't speak for any particular person, have no intention of doing so- simply a random observation.
 
drivebyheckler said:
Indeed Renee. I think boys and girls can be equally mean. And I would argue that perhaps some who say girls are more mean may be looking at it from a lens that simply expects that girls are nicer. I can't speak for any particular person, have no intention of doing so- simply a random observation.
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Exactly! We hold females to higher standards. In my class I pretend that my husband and I go to a party and get drunk , and first i act like him , falling down and cursing, then I walk out acting the exact way. I then ask my group, "who looked worse" and it is always me ...exact behavior.i don't think we should lower the standards for women, but rather raise them for men.
 
Renee said:
Exactly! We hold females to higher standards. In my class I pretend that my husband and I go to a party and get drunk , and first i act like him , falling down and cursing, then I walk out acting the exact way. I then ask my group, "who looked worse" and it is always me ...exact behavior.i don't think we should lower the standards for women, but rather raise them for men.
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Actually, I like it. And I'm being serious here, for once.
 
RickWA said:
PJ is a fine hodgepodge of easy going contributors, self-congratulatory blowhards who confuse volumes of verbose fluffery for thoughtful content, soul-less party operatives with effectively no free will of their own, and - frankly - several nutcases. A couple of these loons are wild-eyed loons with no filter. Some are strangely unable to contain or organize their often paranoid, and usually monolithic rant topics. One is oddly protected and mothered by a cadre of folks who have apparently gathered elsewhere and agreed to shelter/rescue when in "cyber trouble". One big, happy family.
But "mean"? That's just one more trait selectively observed through the lens of party affiliation. It's less about content or character than it is political utility.
BTW: why is it mean "girls"? Are boys allowed the full menu of posting tone while females must remain restrained by special rules?
There's plenty of grumpiness around these parts. Let's get a better terminology going. Apparently forsaking concerns about perceptions of sexism...How about "Bitter Broads"? "Surly Skirts"? "Dastardly Dames"?
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Hey Rick, long history on the Mean Girl thing but in short, they call THEMSELVES that. They have a little club, and Stan may be surprised to know that they live up to their name quite often.

I'm partial to Surly Skirts. ;)
 
Renee said:
Exactly! We hold females to higher standards. In my class I pretend that my husband and I go to a party and get drunk , and first i act like him , falling down and cursing, then I walk out acting the exact way. I then ask my group, "who looked worse" and it is always me ...exact behavior.i don't think we should lower the standards for women, but rather raise them for men.
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Excellent way to make the point.
 
Bo-4 said:
Hey Rick, long history on the Mean Girl thing but in short, they call THEMSELVES that. They have a little club, and Stan may be surprised to know that they live up to their name quite often.

I'm partial to Surly Skirts. ;)
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They may call themselves that, but how was it started?
 
drivebyheckler said:
They may call themselves that, but how was it started?
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It started because it suits them (not that the look anything like this mind ya ;-)

mean-girls-cast.jpg
 
Funny thing is if we all stuck to discussing issues instead of each other "we" would not become the issue. When we act mean, we actually are mean. When we don't, we're not. I don't use the labels because at any given time, given the right circumstances, anyone can earn that name. Instead I read the content of the post like you just posted and decide that it is time for me to either call you a label name or debate you and I don't like labels. If I debate you there are so many wrong-thinking, man-thoughts dripping from it that I'd be here all day. So I have a choice to make. What will I do? Upon reflection on the basic overall mass of the man-thoughts I'll leave you with this:

BITCH

;)
 
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