Hawaii missile alert - complete and total incompetence

[connieb]

So, the "pushed the wrong button" lie has been corrected to be the fact that a career gov't worker who for 10 years, consistently did not do their job, actually believed - ( so the story goes) that a drill was a real thing. Personally, while I have no doubts as to the abject stupidity that this Gov't employee like most others must possess.... I wouldn't doubt that he did it on purpose just to see what happened and lied about his mistake to cover it up particularly since he was almost immediately directed to send a cancel, and did not.

Meanwhile.. the Gov - couldn't get the message corrected because he forgot his twitter password..

If it had not resulted in such an absolute public black eye for the state of Hawaii, the loser would still probably be employed.

The official state gov't system didn't even have any working protocols on how to handle such an emergency. WTF - we have more strict protocols about releasing tax info than these fools had to send out a warning of a nuclear attack. Seriously this is the absolute incompetence and lack of preparedness and ability to function which leads responsible people - to eschew Gov't involvement. Seriously - the dumb fvkcers are so stupid they make most things worse.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/h...-had-problems-but-kept-job/ar-BBItpOD?ocid=sf

 

[ObamacareForever]

So, the "pushed the wrong button" lie has been corrected to be the fact that a career gov't worker who for 10 years, consistently did not do their job, actually believed - ( so the story goes) that a drill was a real thing. Personally, while I have no doubts as to the abject stupidity that this Gov't employee like most others must possess.... I wouldn't doubt that he did it on purpose just to see what happened and lied about his mistake to cover it up particularly since he was almost immediately directed to send a cancel, and did not.

Meanwhile.. the Gov - couldn't get the message corrected because he forgot his twitter password..

If it had not resulted in such an absolute public black eye for the state of Hawaii, the loser would still probably be employed.

The official state gov't system didn't even have any working protocols on how to handle such an emergency. WTF - we have more strict protocols about releasing tax info than these fools had to send out a warning of a nuclear attack. Seriously this is the absolute incompetence and lack of preparedness and ability to function which leads responsible people - to eschew Gov't involvement. Seriously - the dumb fvkcers are so stupid they make most things worse.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/h...-had-problems-but-kept-job/ar-BBItpOD?ocid=sf

Pay them more and you will find a higher quality employee.

 

[connieb]

Pay them more and you will find a higher quality employee.

So dumbfvcks like this can just be on the dole instead? Really - if you are too stupid to work for Gov't.. who do you think is going to hire you?

 

[EatTheRich]

It's an emergency now? Last week weren't you posting that it was no big deal?

Government workers are the best and the brightest ... people like Jonas Salk and Robert Oppenheimer.

Have you considered that maybe that employee thought it was a real attack because Trump has brought the country to the brink of nuclear disaster?

 

[sear]

" Hawaii missile alert - complete and total incompetence "

I'd call it systemic failure, combined with individual incompetence.

If the failure was "complete & total" would the alert ever have been received?
So at least some portion of the system seems to have functioned as designed and intended.

 

[connieb]

It's an emergency now? Last week weren't you posting that it was no big deal?

Government workers are the best and the brightest ... people like Jonas Salk and Robert Oppenheimer.

Have you considered that maybe that employee thought it was a real attack because Trump has brought the country to the brink of nuclear disaster?

It was never an emergency. It is certainly a big deal that there were no proper gov't controls in Hawaii to prevent this. and I said so at the time.

Govt workers are generally the lowest of the low. They are so stupid and lazy and useless they can't hack it anywhere else. Some in certain special positions may be more intelligent than the average bear. But certainly not the vast majority. I am assuming you have seen the mouth breathing stupidity of your average DMV worker, SS employee or IRS agent in action in some point of your life.

why would I consider such nonsense as that when the information clearly said - exercise. Sorry but if someone is that stupid - they should not be in any position to send out an emergency notification. And after 10 years of absolute worthless performance on the job, Hawaii has finally let him go. Sad that it had to come to that public of a screw up for it to happen. I have considered he is a raging lunatic anti-trumper snowflake though. He is in Hawaii.. afterall.

 

[connieb]

I'd call it systemic failure, combined with individual incompetence.

If the failure was "complete & total" would the alert ever have been received?
So at least some portion of the system seems to have functioned as designed and intended.

You are right, the tech people who have to probably be above an IQ of 60 to do their work - did manage to program a system correctly. The staff running it - not so much.

 

[EatTheRich]

It was never an emergency. It is certainly a big deal that there were no proper gov't controls in Hawaii to prevent this. and I said so at the time.

Govt workers are generally the lowest of the low. They are so stupid and lazy and useless they can't hack it anywhere else. Some in certain special positions may be more intelligent than the average bear. But certainly not the vast majority. I am assuming you have seen the mouth breathing stupidity of your average DMV worker, SS employee or IRS agent in action in some point of your life.

why would I consider such nonsense as that when the information clearly said - exercise. Sorry but if someone is that stupid - they should not be in any position to send out an emergency notification. And after 10 years of absolute worthless performance on the job, Hawaii has finally let him go. Sad that it had to come to that public of a screw up for it to happen. I have considered he is a raging lunatic anti-trumper snowflake though. He is in Hawaii.. afterall.

1. "The official state gov't system didn't even have any working protocols on how to handle such an emergency." Interesting, BTW, that you're always a fan of government regulations once the need for them is concretely demonstrated ... yet the conclusion you draw from the absence of needed regulations is that government can't do anything right and needs to be defunded.

2. Compensation for public sector workers is about 16% higher than for people doing the same job in the private sector, according to the CBO. So you expect us to believe that people choose to take a pay cut to work for a private employer because they are smarter, harder working, and more capable than their better-compensated peers?

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

So, the "pushed the wrong button" lie has been corrected to be the fact that a career gov't worker who for 10 years, consistently did not do their job, actually believed - ( so the story goes) that a drill was a real thing. Personally, while I have no doubts as to the abject stupidity that this Gov't employee like most others must possess.... I wouldn't doubt that he did it on purpose just to see what happened and lied about his mistake to cover it up particularly since he was almost immediately directed to send a cancel, and did not.

Meanwhile.. the Gov - couldn't get the message corrected because he forgot his twitter password..

If it had not resulted in such an absolute public black eye for the state of Hawaii, the loser would still probably be employed.

The official state gov't system didn't even have any working protocols on how to handle such an emergency. WTF - we have more strict protocols about releasing tax info than these fools had to send out a warning of a nuclear attack. Seriously this is the absolute incompetence and lack of preparedness and ability to function which leads responsible people - to eschew Gov't involvement. Seriously - the dumb fvkcers are so stupid they make most things worse.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/h...-had-problems-but-kept-job/ar-BBItpOD?ocid=sf

Trump was so concerned that he finished up the back 9 and then sat down at his club for a sumptuous lunch.

;-)

 

[connieb]

1. "The official state gov't system didn't even have any working protocols on how to handle such an emergency." Interesting, BTW, that you're always a fan of government regulations once the need for them is concretely demonstrated ... yet the conclusion you draw from the absence of needed regulations is that government can't do anything right and needs to be defunded.

2. Compensation for public sector workers is about 16% higher than for people doing the same job in the private sector, according to the CBO. So you expect us to believe that people choose to take a pay cut to work for a private employer because they are smarter, harder working, and more capable than their better-compensated peers?

Yes, theydid not have any working protocols to handle an actual emergency notification. Not that this was an emergency. There are no protocols of the process to issue a notification in an emergency. That was the point and what you would have inderstood if you had bothered to read the article.

Govt can't do anything right because it is made up by people. Most people are stupid and incompetent. Therefore most people in govt are stupid and incompetent. Since I am neither I prefer to limit the amount I have to deal with or rely on stupid and incompetent people.

I was not the one arguing that we need to pay govt officials moreso we can get better people. That was OBCF. I already know they are far overcompensated for their level of stupidity and incompetence.

 

[connieb]

Trump was so concerned that he finished up the back 9 and then sat down at his club for a sumptuous lunch.

;-)

Rightly so since there was nothing remotely to be concerned about.

 

[EatTheRich]

Yes, theydid not have any working protocols to handle an actual emergency notification. Not that this was an emergency. There are no protocols of the process to issue a notification in an emergency. That was the point and what you would have inderstood if you had bothered to read the article.

Govt can't do anything right because it is made up by people. Most people are stupid and incompetent. Therefore most people in govt are stupid and incompetent. Since I am neither I prefer to limit the amount I have to deal with or rely on stupid and incompetent people.

I was not the one arguing that we need to pay govt officials moreso we can get better people. That was OBCF. I already know they are far overcompensated for their level of stupidity and incompetence.

Government can do a lot of things right, particularly if it is in competent hands (not the hands of the free market's highest bidder) and unobstructed.

 

[connieb]

Government can do a lot of things right, particularly if it is in competent hands (not the hands of the free market's highest bidder) and unobstructed.

Not as long as it is tun by humans the majority of which are stupid, lazy and utterly worthless. Which is why the less influence it has and the less reliance is better. Why would I ever rely on
A person with less education , less intelligence and less practical experience to make a decision for me if I can help it? Do you routinely go to people you think are dumber than you for help?

 

[EatTheRich]

Not as long as it is tun by humans the majority of which are stupid, lazy and utterly worthless. Which is why the less influence it has and the less reliance is better. Why would I ever rely on
A person with less education , less intelligence and less practical experience to make a decision for me if I can help it? Do you routinely go to people you think are dumber than you for help?

Of course. If I only went to people who were smarter I wouldn't have enough help to get anything that required large-scale collaboration done.

I notice you are posting on the Internet (created by government).

 

[connieb]

Of course. If I only went to people who were smarter I wouldn't have enough help to get anything that required large-scale collaboration done.

I notice you are posting on the Internet (created by government).

No, it was not created by Gov't. It was designed and created by academics originally for their use.