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Another reason we should not have

Bernard_Fokke said:
uncontrolled immigration, it also brings diseases not to mention crime, increased social dependence and so on. Frankly it doesn't cure any problems it just shifts them to someone else.


U.S. Officials Keep Close Eye On ‘Miserable’ Mosquito-Borne Chikungunya Virus
CDC: Cases Confirmed In 15 States, Including N.Y., With 25 In Florida Alone

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2014/06...n-miserable-mosquito-borne-chikungunya-virus/
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Where in that article did it say that the disease was imported by immigrants to this country?
 
Bernard_Fokke said:
uncontrolled immigration, it also brings diseases not to mention crime, increased social dependence and so on. Frankly it doesn't cure any problems it just shifts them to someone else.


U.S. Officials Keep Close Eye On ‘Miserable’ Mosquito-Borne Chikungunya Virus
CDC: Cases Confirmed In 15 States, Including N.Y., With 25 In Florida Alone

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2014/06...n-miserable-mosquito-borne-chikungunya-virus/
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Truly ridiculous...to blame this on immigration.


...So far, all of the infected Americans have contracted the virus in parts of the world where it is common. But researchers are worried that mosquitoes in the U.S. could pick up the disease by biting infected people.

“There’s a concern that people from the United States who go to the Caribbean might be bitten by infected mosquitoes and then bring this illness, this virus, back to the United States,” Schaffner siad. “We have the kind of mosquito that will transmit this virus here in the U.S.”

Prior outbreaks have occurred in Africa, Asia, and Europe. Late last year, the virus was found for the first time on the Caribbean islands, where more than 100,000 people have been sickened.

“So far, we have no evidence that there are U.S.-bred mosquitoes that have become infected,” Schaffner said.
 
according to the cdc..

Outbreaks have occurred in countries in Africa, Asia, Europe, and the Indian and Pacific Oceans. In late 2013, chikungunya virus was found for the first time in the Americas on islands in the Caribbean

not sure how it relates to uncontrolled immigration...
 
Point being here folks that there are health checks with proper immigration procedures, there are none with what's going on now. Belatedly there may some health screening and hopefully many vaccinations be later but if someone is carrying a virus now it's here and spreading.

Yes the chikungunya virus comes from the caribbean but do you think we don't get illegal aliens from other parts of the world besides Mexico? They come through Mexico but not all are from Mexifornia.
 
Bernard_Fokke said:
Point being here folks that there are health checks with proper immigration procedures, there are none with what's going on now. Belatedly there may some health screening and hopefully many vaccinations be later but if someone is carrying a virus now it's here and spreading.

Yes the chikungunya virus comes from the caribbean but do you think we don't get illegal aliens from other parts of the world besides Mexico? They come through Mexico but not all are from Mexifornia.
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Point is, you're being a fear monger.
 
Bernard_Fokke said:
uncontrolled immigration, it also brings diseases not to mention crime, increased social dependence and so on. Frankly it doesn't cure any problems it just shifts them to someone else.


U.S. Officials Keep Close Eye On ‘Miserable’ Mosquito-Borne Chikungunya Virus
CDC: Cases Confirmed In 15 States, Including N.Y., With 25 In Florida Alone

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2014/06...n-miserable-mosquito-borne-chikungunya-virus/
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So you are against all immigration?
 
Bernard_Fokke said:
Point being here folks that there are health checks with proper immigration procedures, there are none with what's going on now. Belatedly there may some health screening and hopefully many vaccinations be later but if someone is carrying a virus now it's here and spreading.

Yes the chikungunya virus comes from the caribbean but do you think we don't get illegal aliens from other parts of the world besides Mexico? They come through Mexico but not all are from Mexifornia.
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I agree - you have to go through a health screening when you go to China, I have a friend whose wife coudlnt' get in because she had a fever when she arrived and she was held in some isolation room for days until they could determine if she was contagious or not. We should do the same thing.
 
point being.. it's mosquito borne.. with world transit being what it is... one..or several could haver made it here in a boat, a plane, carried by the wind and so forth..

this is not to say I advocate for illegal immigration..

:)
 
ITALIA said:
So you are against all immigration?
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What is it with you and some of your ilk? The man said:
"uncontrolled immigration, it also brings diseases not to mention crime, increased social dependence and so on. Frankly it doesn't cure any problems it just shifts them to someone else."

How or why would you turn the word "uncontrolled" into the word "all"?

BTW, a number of your 'ilk' got hung up on the example that the man used instead of the point of his post.

All in all it seems like it's a deliberate ploy. That's a compliment rather than assuming stupidity.

 
Boltlady said:
What is it with you and some of your ilk? The man said:
"uncontrolled immigration, it also brings diseases not to mention crime, increased social dependence and so on. Frankly it doesn't cure any problems it just shifts them to someone else."

How or why would you turn the word "uncontrolled" into the word "all"?

BTW, a number of your 'ilk' got hung up on the example that the man used instead of the point of his post.

All in all it seems like it's a deliberate ploy. That's a compliment rather than assuming stupidity.
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He didn't specify legal verses illegal immigration. What kind of "control"? Blond and blue eyes only?
 
PhilFish said:
point being.. it's mosquito borne.. with world transit being what it is... one..or several could haver made it here in a boat, a plane, carried by the wind and so forth..

this is not to say I advocate for illegal immigration..

:)
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OK Phil how does the mosquito get the virus to spread? It sucks blood from another infected HUMAN.
 
Bernard_Fokke said:
OK Phil how does the mosquito get the virus to spread? I sucks blood from another infected HUMAN.
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well, yeah... what do we need remedial biology now?

okie... so if the virus originates in say..Africa, or the carribean... wouldnt said mosquito have to be carrying the blood of someone from there.. in order that it can be transmitted here?

or does it just sound cool to say ..well illegal immigrants carry it...

:-/
 
Bernard_Fokke said:
Those pinheads are on ignore for a good reason. :)
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I think we are too often conditioned in this country to go "oh poor so and so". Well - sometimes you need to think of self preservation first. And, if screaning people who enter (even those citizens who re-enter after travel) this country for diseases - and containing, quarantining them or sending them back home is one of those times where - you feel bad that they may be suffering, but they could wreak havoc on others... and we need to protect the general public more than we need to "be nice or considerate of someone else.
 
PhilFish said:
well, yeah... what do we need remedial biology now?

okie... so if the virus originates in say..Africa, or the carribean... wouldnt said mosquito have to be carrying the blood of someone from there.. in order that it can be transmitted here?

or does it just sound cool to say ..well illegal immigrants carry it...

:-/
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Phil,

The risk that someone fro there can carry this virus, come here, and get bit by a mosquito then that mosquito pass it to others here, is a very real risk.
 
connieb said:
Phil,

The risk that someone fro there can carry this virus, come here, and get bit by a mosquito then that mosquito pass it to others here, is a very real risk.
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sure, the same risk as say someone flying to the carribean, and being biitten... yes.
 
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