Bernie Sanders Proclaims Severely Insensitive Racial Comment: No Media Coverage

[Mr. Friscus]

In the March 6th Debate, Bernie Sanders said that "white people don't know what it's like to be poor".

I was shocked. There are so many white people who are in poverty, homeless, or completely unable to support themselves. By number, there are massively more than any other race group.

Then I thought about the irony. So many of these young college hipster-types are supporting Bernie Sanders because of his promises of free college, raising the minimum wage, etc. One could assume that these very supporters demand this because they either are, or feel they are, "poor".

I recall Donald Trump's comments about Mexico, and bad apple immigrants who cross our borders illegally, dishonestly being plastered on every talk show and tweeted by every celebrity in a drive-by verbal assault, taking what "The Donald" said out of context completely.

So Bernie Sanders slams a huge portion of our population as having no right to speak about poverty and... nothing? Where are all the pundits expressing concern? Where are the drive-by headlines suggesting Bernie hates low-class white people?

Oh, wait.. I remember, white people are ALLOWED to be racially scrutinized.

But, there IS one Bernie Sanders quote that is making headlines. He said the word "ghetto", and implied black people happen to live in them. *Gasp*

Just more racial divisiveness from our Democrat candidates, and another example of the media being in the tank for them, while actively attacking a GOP candidate.

Also, yet another example of the new-age golden rule: You can't say anything but fluffy praise for black people. If you do, a black professor or MSNBC pundit will brand you by distorting your words. It's racial verbal warfare, just how the Democrats like it.

 

[Dino]

In the March 6th Debate, Bernie Sanders said that "white people don't know what it's like to be poor".

I was shocked. There are so many white people who are in poverty, homeless, or completely unable to support themselves. By number, there are massively more than any other race group.

Then I thought about the irony. So many of these young college hipster-types are supporting Bernie Sanders because of his promises of free college, raising the minimum wage, etc. One could assume that these very supporters demand this because they either are, or feel they are, "poor".

I recall Donald Trump's comments about Mexico, and bad apple immigrants who cross our borders illegally, dishonestly being plastered on every talk show and tweeted by every celebrity in a drive-by verbal assault, taking what "The Donald" said out of context completely.

So Bernie Sanders slams a huge portion of our population as having no right to speak about poverty and... nothing? Where are all the pundits expressing concern? Where are the drive-by headlines suggesting Bernie hates low-class white people?

Oh, wait.. I remember, white people are ALLOWED to be racially scrutinized.

But, there IS one Bernie Sanders quote that is making headlines. He said the word "ghetto", and implied black people happen to live in them. *Gasp*

Just more racial divisiveness from our Democrat candidates, and another example of the media being in the tank for them, while actively attacking a GOP candidate.

Also, yet another example of the new-age golden rule: You can't say anything but fluffy praise for black people. If you do, a black professor or MSNBC pundit will brand you by distorting your words. It's racial verbal warfare, just how the Democrats like it.

I believe he negated himself from the possibility of being president by offering such an open and mindless falsehood. That was a shameful political angle that made him seem highly incredible. A low point for certain which made him seem out of touch.

 

[Deleted member 21794]

In the March 6th Debate, Bernie Sanders said that "white people don't know what it's like to be poor".

I was shocked. There are so many white people who are in poverty, homeless, or completely unable to support themselves. By number, there are massively more than any other race group.

Then I thought about the irony. So many of these young college hipster-types are supporting Bernie Sanders because of his promises of free college, raising the minimum wage, etc. One could assume that these very supporters demand this because they either are, or feel they are, "poor".

I recall Donald Trump's comments about Mexico, and bad apple immigrants who cross our borders illegally, dishonestly being plastered on every talk show and tweeted by every celebrity in a drive-by verbal assault, taking what "The Donald" said out of context completely.

So Bernie Sanders slams a huge portion of our population as having no right to speak about poverty and... nothing? Where are all the pundits expressing concern? Where are the drive-by headlines suggesting Bernie hates low-class white people?

Oh, wait.. I remember, white people are ALLOWED to be racially scrutinized.

But, there IS one Bernie Sanders quote that is making headlines. He said the word "ghetto", and implied black people happen to live in them. *Gasp*

Just more racial divisiveness from our Democrat candidates, and another example of the media being in the tank for them, while actively attacking a GOP candidate.

Also, yet another example of the new-age golden rule: You can't say anything but fluffy praise for black people. If you do, a black professor or MSNBC pundit will brand you by distorting your words. It's racial verbal warfare, just how the Democrats like it.

Heck, for one I guess he's forgotten he was a poor bum most of his life- let alone the other millions of poor white people.

I don't imagine we'll hear much from PHLCs on this one.

 

[afella]

In the March 6th Debate, Bernie Sanders said that "white people don't know what it's like to be poor".

I was shocked. There are so many white people who are in poverty, homeless, or completely unable to support themselves. By number, there are massively more than any other race group.

Then I thought about the irony. So many of these young college hipster-types are supporting Bernie Sanders because of his promises of free college, raising the minimum wage, etc. One could assume that these very supporters demand this because they either are, or feel they are, "poor".

I recall Donald Trump's comments about Mexico, and bad apple immigrants who cross our borders illegally, dishonestly being plastered on every talk show and tweeted by every celebrity in a drive-by verbal assault, taking what "The Donald" said out of context completely.

So Bernie Sanders slams a huge portion of our population as having no right to speak about poverty and... nothing? Where are all the pundits expressing concern? Where are the drive-by headlines suggesting Bernie hates low-class white people?

Oh, wait.. I remember, white people are ALLOWED to be racially scrutinized.

But, there IS one Bernie Sanders quote that is making headlines. He said the word "ghetto", and implied black people happen to live in them. *Gasp*

Just more racial divisiveness from our Democrat candidates, and another example of the media being in the tank for them, while actively attacking a GOP candidate.

Also, yet another example of the new-age golden rule: You can't say anything but fluffy praise for black people. If you do, a black professor or MSNBC pundit will brand you by distorting your words. It's racial verbal warfare, just how the Democrats like it.

Yes that was in part of what he said. However, context is important:

Tell you another story, I was with young people active in the Black Lives Matter movement. A young lady comes up to me and she says, you don’t understand what police do in certain black communities. You don’t understand the degree to which we are terrorized, and I’m not just talking about the horrible shootings that we have seen, which have got to end and we’ve got to hold police officers accountable, I’m just talking about every day activities where police officers are bullying people.
So to answer your question, I would say, and I think it’s similar to what the secretary said, when you’re white, you don’t know what it’s like to be living in a ghetto. You don’t know what it’s like to be poor. You don’t know what it’s like to be hassled when you walk down the street or you get dragged out of a car.
And I believe that as a nation in the year 2016, we must be firm in making it clear. We will end institutional racism and reform a broken criminal justice system.


http://www.snopes.com/bernie-sanders-institutional-racism/

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Yes that was in part of what he said. However, context is important:

Tell you another story, I was with young people active in the Black Lives Matter movement. A young lady comes up to me and she says, you don’t understand what police do in certain black communities. You don’t understand the degree to which we are terrorized, and I’m not just talking about the horrible shootings that we have seen, which have got to end and we’ve got to hold police officers accountable, I’m just talking about every day activities where police officers are bullying people.
So to answer your question, I would say, and I think it’s similar to what the secretary said, when you’re white, you don’t know what it’s like to be living in a ghetto. You don’t know what it’s like to be poor. You don’t know what it’s like to be hassled when you walk down the street or you get dragged out of a car.
And I believe that as a nation in the year 2016, we must be firm in making it clear. We will end institutional racism and reform a broken criminal justice system.


http://www.snopes.com/bernie-sanders-institutional-racism/

The context doesn't much change the message, and even more erroneous claims are made.

White people live in "ghettos"... and are usually discriminated against there to some extent.

White people, as mentioned earlier, are certainly poor.

And believe it or not, white people are hassled when they walk down the street, and they get dragged out of their cars too.

All of this is just fear-mongering by Sanders, pandering to the activist BLM movement which has largely been proven to be based on a farce, mythical assumptions, and unproven claims.

I don't get how Clinton and Sanders can call out Trump for being "divisive" when they say these types of things.

 

[Dino]

Yes that was in part of what he said. However, context is important:

Tell you another story, I was with young people active in the Black Lives Matter movement. A young lady comes up to me and she says, you don’t understand what police do in certain black communities. You don’t understand the degree to which we are terrorized, and I’m not just talking about the horrible shootings that we have seen, which have got to end and we’ve got to hold police officers accountable, I’m just talking about every day activities where police officers are bullying people.
So to answer your question, I would say, and I think it’s similar to what the secretary said, when you’re white, you don’t know what it’s like to be living in a ghetto. You don’t know what it’s like to be poor. You don’t know what it’s like to be hassled when you walk down the street or you get dragged out of a car.
And I believe that as a nation in the year 2016, we must be firm in making it clear. We will end institutional racism and reform a broken criminal justice system.


http://www.snopes.com/bernie-sanders-institutional-racism/

If he meant to say that "white people are not profiled based on the car they drive" he'd behalf-right.

But to say whites don't live in ghettos or to say they don't understand what it's like to be poor, he's 100% WRONG.

 

[marvin martian]

I don't get how Clinton and Sanders can call out Trump for being "divisive" when they say these types of things.

They're liars.

 

[connieb]

The context doesn't much change the message, and even more erroneous claims are made.

White people live in "ghettos"... and are usually discriminated against there to some extent.

White people, as mentioned earlier, are certainly poor.

And believe it or not, white people are hassled when they walk down the street, and they get dragged out of their cars too.

All of this is just fear-mongering by Sanders, pandering to the activist BLM movement which has largely been proven to be based on a farce, mythical assumptions, and unproven claims.

I don't get how Clinton and Sanders can call out Trump for being "divisive" when they say these types of things.

I am so sick of this false narrative.

White people ALSO don't like poor white people. We call them "white trash" or maybe "trailer trash" or even hillbilly....

And, I saw a white kid get dragged out of his car by a white cop, thrown to the ground, forcibly restrained and arrested - because a cop rear ended him. Conversely, friends of mine were ending their relationship, he was black and she was white, and the cops were called as they were fighting as he was moving out... and the cops were very very very respectful and polite to him.. recognizing right away that the girl was the aggressor and agitator....

Dundalk and Essex MD used to be prodominatly white working class neighborhoods when Bethlehem Steel was in Baltimore......the jokes about Dundalk and Essex are legendary. For goodness sakes there is popular Christmas song making fun of Essex.

Maybe its just that middle to upper class whites, aren't real tolerant of low class people. Should we give low class blacks or hispanics a pass or something.

The whole thing is ridiculous.

 

[afella]

The context doesn't much change the message, and even more erroneous claims are made.

White people live in "ghettos"... and are usually discriminated against there to some extent.

White people, as mentioned earlier, are certainly poor.

And believe it or not, white people are hassled when they walk down the street, and they get dragged out of their cars too.

All of this is just fear-mongering by Sanders, pandering to the activist BLM movement which has largely been proven to be based on a farce, mythical assumptions, and unproven claims.

I don't get how Clinton and Sanders can call out Trump for being "divisive" when they say these types of things.

Then those who came from Japan or were from Japanese heritage and interned here in the US during WW2, could claim they were equally oppressed as a jew in Poland under the Nazi regime?

The context Bernie provided is the root of the problem. It's a matter of institutional racism which has nothing to do with racism. It's not a matter of an individual race or ethnicity, it's more of a matter of class. That institutional racism left the African American race out in the dark. From urban development, voting rights etc. it's a long list. Even in the most liberal of cities areas were set aside for those off set groups of people. They weren't educated, they weren't welcomed, and they weren't treated the same for those reasons.

Our current issues of degrading inner cities and African American communities in particular are rooted in our past. As much as were would like to claim individual relief and triumph over adverse situations, which is possible, it is not something that is engrained in the human psyche.

Really it's why we created the suburbs. The actual policy has gone away, for the most part, but the psyche of it all remains. There is a wealth of knowledge out there on the institutional racism, modern institutional racism is through our police force for the most part (not that they act in the favor of any of us anyway, but that's a separate issue). Urban development is the highlight, as far as I am concerned, of institutional racism in the south and even more so in the north.

There has been nothing to redeem that, as prices rise and options are limited for those who are disenfranchised. That is exactly what Bernie was talking about, and he's right. There's nothing to refute it.

 

[afella]

If he meant to say that "white people are not profiled based on the car they drive" he'd behalf-right.

But to say whites don't live in ghettos or to say they don't understand what it's like to be poor, he's 100% WRONG.

Read my reply to Mr. Friscus. It's ALL tied together whether we want it to be or not. He was 100% right.

 

[Dino]

Read my reply to Mr. Friscus. It's ALL tied together whether we want it to be or not. He was 100% right.

Well I hate to think of what your standard for truth and ethics looks like then.
Because he was 100% out of touch or bald-faced lying and you think he's 100% correct.

That's a frighteningly low standard for honesty. You must be a liberal.

 

[Max R.]

In the March 6th Debate, Bernie Sanders said that "white people don't know what it's like to be poor".

I was shocked. There are so many white people who are in poverty, homeless, or completely unable to support themselves. By number, there are massively more than any other race group......

LWers are not only well-known to use racial politics, but also they are well known racists.

 

[afella]

LWers are not only well-known to use racial politics, but also they are well known racists.

For a racist, then yes you'd be correct. Logic dictates otherwise.

 

[afella]

Well I hate to think of what your standard for truth and ethics looks like then.
Because he was 100% out of touch or bald-faced lying and you think he's 100% correct.

That's a frighteningly low standard for honesty. You must be a liberal.

So your matter of ethics then is? Perhaps after a century+ of oppression through "legal" means a certain segment of the population should suddenly rise up and become prosperous? Sure that's happened on occasion the output human history, but rarely and even then it takes a revolution to do so.

Degrading the prior policies that were in place is what had always helped, then a leg up to the working class, the fundamental backbone of any working society.

 

[Max R.]

For a racist, then yes you'd be correct. Logic dictates otherwise.

Agreed Bernie's a racist, but what logic are you referencing? That LWers aren't racist? That some are, some aren't?

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Then those who came from Japan or were from Japanese heritage and interned here in the US during WW2, could claim they were equally oppressed as a jew in Poland under the Nazi regime?

We aren't talking about ratios here. Sanders said an absolute. White people don't know what it's like to be poor. Yes, he said that.

He's certainly thanking his lucky stars that 80-90% of journalism majors and today's media reporters are card-carrying Democrats.

The context Bernie provided is the root of the problem. It's a matter of institutional racism which has nothing to do with racism. It's not a matter of an individual race or ethnicity, it's more of a matter of class. That institutional racism left the African American race out in the dark. From urban development, voting rights etc. it's a long list. Even in the most liberal of cities areas were set aside for those off set groups of people. They weren't educated, they weren't welcomed, and they weren't treated the same for those reasons.

Well, on those issues, the excuses have run out. Today they are indeed educated, welcomed, and are overall treated the same by the law. They are even deemed more important than any other race in nearly any public discourse or media story.

Really it's why we created the suburbs. The actual policy has gone away, for the most part, but the psyche of it all remains. There is a wealth of knowledge out there on the institutional racism, modern institutional racism is through our police force for the most part (not that they act in the favor of any of us anyway, but that's a separate issue). Urban development is the highlight, as far as I am concerned, of institutional racism in the south and even more so in the north.

There has been nothing to redeem that, as prices rise and options are limited for those who are disenfranchised. That is exactly what Bernie was talking about, and he's right. There's nothing to refute it.

I get your argument, but I've never quite understood the logic as to a solution. Thus, it always comes off as lip service.

Certainly there were laws that needed to be corrected in our time in dealing with race, and they have been.

"Institutional Racism"? I know there's an academic definition, but it can't be much proven either. It's something you seem to have to attain faith in, based on results. However, the mortal sin of this reasoning is ignoring the factors that might cause different results.

The most common factor ignored is the family unit, and how black children are raised in single-parent households at a far greater rate than any other race. Meanwhile, looking at the numbers, children who are raised by single-parent households are far more likely to commit crime, fall into drugs, and drop out of school. So:

a + b = c


while some might try to foolishly point out that (a)(race) and (c)(income/prosperity) are different, they ignore (b)(family unit). Hey, it's a nice drive-by attack, and it can be used pull in some emotional suckers (as a Bernie Sanders does), but ignoring even just this huge factor itself denies anyone from achieving clairity on the issue. And there are plenty of other issues on why races differ in how they achieve.

Also, You call suburbs some sort of moral injustice, how do you rationalize that? The city isn't a pleasant place. Crime is nearly always higher there, living conditions are low yet rent or housing costs are high. People of any color will move out of there if they have the money. I know in Cleveland, the major city I live near, all the black athletes move out to my side of town and buy huge houses away from the dirty, dangerous, poor city that has been run by Democrats for decades into the ground. There's no injustice there, it's just what anyone would do.

 

[afella]

We aren't talking about ratios here. Sanders said an absolute. White people don't know what it's like to be poor. Yes, he said that.

He's certainly thanking his lucky stars that 80-90% of journalism majors and today's media reporters are card-carrying Democrats.


Well, on those issues, the excuses have run out. Today they are indeed educated, welcomed, and are overall treated the same by the law. They are even deemed more important than any other race in nearly any public discourse or media story.



I get your argument, but I've never quite understood the logic as to a solution. Thus, it always comes off as lip service.

Certainly there were laws that needed to be corrected in our time in dealing with race, and they have been.

"Institutional Racism"? I know there's an academic definition, but it can't be much proven either. It's something you seem to have to attain faith in, based on results. However, the mortal sin of this reasoning is ignoring the factors that might cause different results.

The most common factor ignored is the family unit, and how black children are raised in single-parent households at a far greater rate than any other race. Meanwhile, looking at the numbers, children who are raised by single-parent households are far more likely to commit crime, fall into drugs, and drop out of school. So:

a + b = c


while some might try to foolishly point out that (a)(race) and (c)(income/prosperity) are different, they ignore (b)(family unit). Hey, it's a nice drive-by attack, and it can be used pull in some emotional suckers (as a Bernie Sanders does), but ignoring even just this huge factor itself denies anyone from achieving clairity on the issue. And there are plenty of other issues on why races differ in how they achieve.

Also, You call suburbs some sort of moral injustice, how do you rationalize that? The city isn't a pleasant place. Crime is nearly always higher there, living conditions are low yet rent or housing costs are high. People of any color will move out of there if they have the money. I know in Cleveland, the major city I live near, all the black athletes move out to my side of town and buy huge houses away from the dirty, dangerous, poor city that has been run by Democrats for decades into the ground. There's no injustice there, it's just what anyone would do.

The reason, I think, that Sanders said it as an absolute is because there was never a remedy. Where was the cure for what happened with the African American communities after the debacle of suppression of the 1900's? This also highlights your response to my comment on the suburbs.

The suburbs were created for the exact reason you highlighted. Now why so? Because of zoning laws which trapped African americans into designated areas for them, as no one wanted them. Then at a certain point, once the white folks got sick of the negros, they moved to a created environment to get away from them. There was nothing done to actually reform the mistakes of our zoning laws, which were institutional racism, and create fair environments for all to thrive in. Shit there still hasn't been anything done to repair that damage.

The dysfunctional family unit is a major fault of our nation, I couldn't agree more. I was raised Christian and am now an agnostic and I can see the faults in our society. No one cares about their neighbor and no one cares about themselves and theirs. There is a fix to that. Your equation is accurate, but negates human interaction. We our psyche a+b=c sometimes makes as much sense as j+q=z.


I can't disagree that the media is liberal (or conservative depending upon the outlet), I think that they are all dishonest, but that's neither here nor there.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

The reason, I think, that Sanders said it as an absolute is because there was never a remedy. Where was the cure for what happened with the African American communities after the debacle of suppression of the 1900's? This also highlights your response to my comment on the suburbs.

The suburbs were created for the exact reason you highlighted. Now why so? Because of zoning laws which trapped African americans into designated areas for them, as no one wanted them. Then at a certain point, once the white folks got sick of the negros, they moved to a created environment to get away from them. There was nothing done to actually reform the mistakes of our zoning laws, which were institutional racism, and create fair environments for all to thrive in. Shit there still hasn't been anything done to repair that damage.

Okay, so what is the solution?

Do we kick white people out of suburban houses and install black people in them?

We've fixed the laws, but we can't let the state aggressively dictate to the populace who should be where and why, especially based on race.

The dysfunctional family unit is a major fault of our nation, I couldn't agree more. I was raised Christian and am now an agnostic and I can see the faults in our society. No one cares about their neighbor and no one cares about themselves and theirs. There is a fix to that. Your equation is accurate, but negates human interaction. We our psyche a+b=c sometimes makes as much sense as j+q=z.

Yes, but I notice you turn away from addressing why it is specifically high among black people. Hey, it's nothing personal, but facts are facts, unless you want to start assigning the term "racist" to them, which honestly wouldn't surprise me considering how loony academia has become.

Isn't it possible that cultural norms like this can have an overwhelming effect on end results?

And if so, why do people like Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton, (along with Obama, Sharpton, Biden, etc.) continually ignore these factors? (Besides the obvious pandering). That's what damns them. They are intelligent, and they know better. They know the factors, they just choose to highlight the differences to divide.

But I want to hear you address this point at least, because from my experience no Democrat or liberal ever wants to touch it with a ten foot pole.

I can't disagree that the media is liberal (or conservative depending upon the outlet), I think that they are all dishonest, but that's neither here nor there.

There are some conservative outlets out there, but nearly all MSM outside of Fox is liberal. Journalism majors are probably 90% Democrat, and are quite radical.

 

[Max R.]

The reason, I think, that Sanders said it as an absolute is because there was never a remedy. Where was the cure for what happened with the African American communities after the debacle of suppression of the 1900's? This also highlights your response to my comment on the suburbs......

Dude, that doesn't make sense. First, whether or not American citizens who happen to be white have ever known poverty has nothing to do with whether or not Americans of other races have known poverty. Second, all honest, informed people know poverty has stricken people all races, genders and other differences.

http://www.ncsociology.org/sociationtoday/v2/image004.jpg

http://news.discovery.com/human/life/poverty-owsley-appalachia-120424.htm

...The suburbs were created for the exact reason you highlighted. Now why so? Because of zoning laws which trapped African americans into designated areas for them, as no one wanted them. Then at a certain point, once the white folks got sick of the negros, they moved to a created environment to get away from them. There was nothing done to actually reform the mistakes of our zoning laws, which were institutional racism, and create fair environments for all to thrive in. Shit there still hasn't been anything done to repair that damage.....

This is classic projection. LWers believe in central planning and, as in this case, project that everyone else thinks the same way. The suburbs evolved out of a desire of middle class and affluent Americans to escape the crime and depression of cities. The development of the automobile and rapid transit, specifically subways and commuter trains allowed the suburbs to develop. Without them, workers, regardless of class, were stuck living within range of an hour's horseback or bicycle ride. It has nothing to do with race and has everything to do with affluence and technology.

 

[Max R.]

Okay, so what is the solution?

Do we kick white people out of suburban houses and install black people in them? ....

That is what the racist Left is proposing although they'd settle for taxing every white American the cost of housing and provisioning every black American. Yes, it's racist, but that's what they do.