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BTW, Trump fights property taxes too...

Bugsy McGurk said:
Sure, various layers of government must pay for the infrastructure that allows Trump to make money from his properties.

Who pays for it? Chumps like you.

http://money.cnn.com/2016/10/25/news/companies/donald-trump-property-tax-fights/index.html
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People in the real world fight their property tax assessments all the time. Oftentimes, winning. We fight ours every year. They assess one value, we prove why its less than market value. Since the assessment is supposed to be market value, its and easy case to win.

why do you chumps just bend over and take it and expect others to do so as well?
 
connieb said:
People in the real world fight their property tax assessments all the time. Oftentimes, winning. We fight ours every year. They assess one value, we prove why its less than market value. Since the assessment is supposed to be market value, its and easy case to win.

why do you chumps just bend over and take it and expect others to do so as well?
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Nah, some people, including some very wealthy people, do not sic their lawyers and accountants on the government every time the prospect of some taxation is raised. They realize how fortunate they are, and that it takes money to run our government, so they just pay their taxes. Not Trump. He views taxes as something to be paid by chumps, like his rabble.
 
Bugsy McGurk said:
Nah, some people, including some very wealthy people, do not sic their lawyers and accountants on the government every time the prospect of some taxation is raised. They realize how fortunate they are, and that it takes money to run our government, so they just pay their taxes. Not Trump. He views taxes as something to be paid by chumps, like his rabble.
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Really, because wealthy people -fighting the tax man - is what keeps the vast majority of accountants and lawyers employed. You are clearly misinformed.

connie
 
connieb said:
Really, because wealthy people -fighting the tax man - is what keeps the vast majority of accountants and lawyers employed. You are clearly misinformed.

connie
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Hey, there are other stingy, selfish wealthy people like Trump. But other wealthy people just pay their taxes.
 
Bugsy McGurk said:
Hey, there are other stingy, selfish wealthy people like Trump. But other wealthy people just pay their taxes.
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Lol. Yeah.. that just shows you don't actually know any. Why the hell do you think there even are accountants and lawyers? It sure as hell isn't poor people paying for them...
 
connieb said:
Lol. Yeah.. that just shows you don't actually know any. Why the hell do you think there even are accountants and lawyers? It sure as hell isn't poor people paying for them...
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First, of course, most accountants and lawyers do things other than help billionaires stiff the government. Second, the vast majority of people, billionaires included, willingly pay taxes. Trump just happens to be a leech.
 
Bugsy McGurk said:
First, of course, most accountants and lawyers do things other than help billionaires stiff the government. Second, the vast majority of people, billionaires included, willingly pay taxes. Trump just happens to be a leech.
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Most accountants do not actually do much more than help their clients stiff the Gov't. Indeed, that is sort of the entire point of most of the profession. And, if it isn't stiffing the Gov't it stiffing shareholders, divorcees, etc. And lawyers, well, they are just dirtbags and will help their clients stiff anyone.

The vast majority of people do pay their taxes, but only idiots pay one more cent than they have to.

connie
 
connieb said:
Most accountants do not actually do much more than help their clients stiff the Gov't. Indeed, that is sort of the entire point of most of the profession. And, if it isn't stiffing the Gov't it stiffing shareholders, divorcees, etc. And lawyers, well, they are just dirtbags and will help their clients stiff anyone.

The vast majority of people do pay their taxes, but only idiots pay one more cent than they have to.

connie
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Nah, most people don't hire lawyers and accountants to browbeat the government into accepting less in taxes. Trump does. Because he's a leech.
 
Bugsy McGurk said:
Nah, some people, including some very wealthy people, do not sic their lawyers and accountants on the government every time the prospect of some taxation is raised. They realize how fortunate they are, and that it takes money to run our government, so they just pay their taxes. Not Trump. He views taxes as something to be paid by chumps, like his rabble.
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They should....allowed to go unchekced municipalities will always over assess .... I also fight my own every year and get many concessions for it.

You are just foolish

JO
 
Bugsy McGurk said:
Nah, most people don't hire lawyers and accountants to browbeat the government into accepting less in taxes. Trump does. Because he's a leech.
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Clearly you are not in business. Because that is what the conversations of the vast majority of business owners are about with their accountants each year.
 
justoffal said:
They should....allowed to go unchekced municipalities will always over assess .... I also fight my own every year and get many concessions for it.

You are just foolish

JO
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You can pretend that Trump files the occasional suit to get relief from unjustified taxation. Or, you can read the article and otherwise accept the truth - Trump's view is that he can routinely wiggle out of taxes through scorched earth tactics and stick his rabble with the bill. Same with the way he stiffs his suppliers. With Trump, one person matters - Trump.
 
justoffal said:
They should....allowed to go unchekced municipalities will always over assess .... I also fight my own every year and get many concessions for it.

You are just foolish

JO
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Hell yeah. The law says it is supposed to approximate current market value.

If its not current market value - then I am not paying it. Why would I pay an assessment that is more than my property is actually worth? That makes absolutely no sense. These people who do the assessments are just throwing out stuff to see what sticks... and plenty of people don't pay any attention and it just slides through.
 
connieb said:
Clearly you are not in business. Because that is what the conversations of the vast majority of business owners are about with their accountants each year.
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Flat out wrong. People like Warren Buffet and Bill Gates willingly pay a fortune in taxes every year. They're not leeches.
 
Bugsy McGurk said:
Flat out wrong. People like Warren Buffet and Bill Gates willingly pay a fortune in taxes every year. They're not leeches.
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Really - you are in there in the meetings with their armies of lawyers and accountants? You sit in where they tell them.. hey.. just write the check,.. whatever ole' uncle wants...

I mean, really, why even have them then?
 
connieb said:
Really - you are in there in the meetings with their armies of lawyers and accountants? You sit in where they tell them.. hey.. just write the check,.. whatever ole' uncle wants...

I mean, really, why even have them then?
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Whatever is due. Patriotism alone compels true patriots to help fund the government, and not be leeches.
 
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