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Build Back Better plan

JuliefromOhio

President
Supporting Member
Those are facts, not party propaganda. I'm surprised that the distinction eludes you so.

So, in the interest of actually having a thought, discuss:

Is there a downside to raising the debt ceiling?

See if you can answer on your own, without consulting the mother ship.
You didn't post about Biden's past High approval numbers....so it's evident that you were reflexively waiting for bad ones. You found the lowest approval rating out there while I countered with 2 that were better. Your purpose was to reflexively make Biden look bad, which was "reflexive repetition of party propaganda without the benefit of original thought."
 

Zam-Zam

Senator
You didn't post about Biden's past High approval numbers....so it's evident that you were reflexively waiting for bad ones. You found the lowest approval rating out there while I countered with 2 that were better. Your purpose was to reflexively make Biden look bad, which was "reflexive repetition of party propaganda without the benefit of original thought."
I posted recent news. His numbers are down, even in the more generous polls. It's just a fact. Facts are not propaganda.

Labeling some as a nihilist, on the other hand, is not a fact. It's just party line gibberish.

Predictably, the question which required you to do your own thinking went unanswered.
 

JuliefromOhio

President
Supporting Member
I posted recent news. His numbers are down, even in the more generous polls. It's just a fact. Facts are not propaganda.

Labeling some as a nihilist, on the other hand, is not a fact. It's just party line gibberish.

Predictably, the question which required you to do your own thinking went unanswered.
"I posted recent news."

Bullshit....
You didn't post about Biden's past High approval numbers....so it's evident that you were reflexively waiting for bad ones. You found the lowest approval rating out there while I countered with 2 that were better. Your purpose was to reflexively make Biden look bad, which was "reflexive repetition of party propaganda without the benefit of original thought."
 

Drumcollie

Ending Racism with or without Hillary

Bernie Sanders
@BernieSanders


Question: why is it that the Build Back Better plan is so ruthlessly opposed by the entire ruling class of this country?

Answer: because with this bill, we are showing that government can deliver for the needs of working class people, not just billionaires and corporations.


3:23 PM · Oct 10, 2021
Basically what Bernie is saying is you "f&cked up" by elec...err cheating for Biden*, otherwise what are we supposed to glean from this thread?

You obviously have forgotten some key points:

1. You ratted out Joe.
2. Clearly Sanders, who never said his wife was wrong for bankrupting the college, which probably now a parking lot, is angry cuz he lost and will challenge the election right?
3. Biden is a racist, white wealthy loving, hypocrite and those wealthy people Bernie mentions are the ones who bought Hunter's paintings huh?
4. You should have not posted this and hope it would just go away quietly.
 

JuliefromOhio

President
Supporting Member
Basically what Bernie is saying is you "f&cked up" by elec...err cheating for Biden*, otherwise what are we supposed to glean from this thread?

You obviously have forgotten some key points:

1. You ratted out Joe.
2. Clearly Sanders, who never said his wife was wrong for bankrupting the college, which probably now a parking lot, is angry cuz he lost and will challenge the election right?
3. Biden is a racist, white wealthy loving, hypocrite and those wealthy people Bernie mentions are the ones who bought Hunter's paintings huh?
4. You should have not posted this and hope it would just go away quietly.
Bernie is helping Joe get the bill passed.

Stop projecting GOP racism onto others.
 

Drumcollie

Ending Racism with or without Hillary
"I posted recent news."

Bullshit....
You didn't post about Biden's past High approval numbers....so it's evident that you were reflexively waiting for bad ones. You found the lowest approval rating out there while I countered with 2 that were better. Your purpose was to reflexively make Biden look bad, which was "reflexive repetition of party propaganda without the benefit of original thought."
Seriously? Quit while you are only so far behind. Are you really suggesting you have original thoughts?
 

Zam-Zam

Senator
"I posted recent news."

Bullshit....
You didn't post about Biden's past High approval numbers....so it's evident that you were reflexively waiting for bad ones. You found the lowest approval rating out there while I countered with 2 that were better. Your purpose was to reflexively make Biden look bad, which was "reflexive repetition of party propaganda without the benefit of original thought."

The article in question is date stamped: 10/08/21 08:00 AM EDT

Posted in "The Hill"

Recent news.

Again - All facts, none of which are in dispute.

Another fact: You still have failed to answer the question which requires you to have your own thought.

There must be a reason...
 

JuliefromOhio

President
Supporting Member
The article in question is date stamped: 10/08/21 08:00 AM EDT

Posted in "The Hill"

Recent news.

Again - All facts, none of which are in dispute.

Another fact: You still have failed to answer the question which requires you to have your own thought.

There must be a reason...
When Biden had really High approval ratings, you didn't reflexively consider that "news." But when the ratings dropped, you rushed right in reflexively to post them.....because they were bad for Biden.
The debt ceiling is addressed in another thread.....not this one.
 

Zam-Zam

Senator
When Biden had really High approval ratings, you didn't reflexively consider that "news." But when the ratings dropped, you rushed right in reflexively to post them.....because they were bad for Biden.
The debt ceiling is addressed in another thread.....not this one.

Nice dodge. And cowardly.

Biden's declining poll numbers were addressed in another thread - You brought it up here.
 

JuliefromOhio

President
Supporting Member
Says the party of slavery.

That is not what the top post suggested.
Democrats used to be the party of slavery, of the KKK. Once the Civil Rights Act was passed, those racists became Republicans. Nixon nudged them along using the southern strategy. That's why Trump used racism, the birther conspiracy to appeal to his voters. They loved it that he could see into their hearts. If they can't look down on minorities, how will those white con guys feel okay about themselves?

Bernie is using his clout to state facts about the Biden plan.
 

Alinvegas

Turn Back Better

Bernie Sanders
@BernieSanders


Question: why is it that the Build Back Better plan is so ruthlessly opposed by the entire ruling class of this country?

Answer: because with this bill, we are showing that government can deliver for the needs of working class people, not just billionaires and corporations.


3:23 PM · Oct 10, 2021
Hogwash. This plan is noting than Marxist redistribution of wealth. It punishes the very middle class that Biden is trying to say he is helping.
 

JuliefromOhio

President
Supporting Member
Hogwash. This plan is noting than Marxist redistribution of wealth. It punishes the very middle class that Biden is trying to say he is helping.
Actually, the Biden plan helps the middle and lower classes and gets the uber-wealthy to pay for it.

The Build Back Better Agenda
  • Lower Child Care Costs. For 57 percent of children under six, there are no good choices for child care where they live. ...
  • Lower Higher Education Costs. ...
  • Lower Prescription Drug Costs. ...
  • Lower Health Care Costs. ...
  • Lower Housing Costs.
 

Alinvegas

Turn Back Better
The ruling class are and have always been the uber-wealthy. Trump gave them a nice tax cut in 2017.
They're often stealth actors ie Dark Money.
I'm not wealthy. Just another working stiff. I enjoyed my tax cut. Put it all into my 401K which went way up when Trump was in office and has since just slid sideways ever since we started to build back better.
 

Alinvegas

Turn Back Better
Actually, the Biden plan helps the middle and lower classes and gets the uber-wealthy to pay for it.

The Build Back Better Agenda
  • Lower Child Care Costs. For 57 percent of children under six, there are no good choices for child care where they live. ...
  • Lower Higher Education Costs. ...
  • Lower Prescription Drug Costs. ...
  • Lower Health Care Costs. ...
  • Lower Housing Costs.
Just who will pay for that? The middle class. How stupid can lefty be...
 

JuliefromOhio

President
Supporting Member
I'm not wealthy. Just another working stiff. I enjoyed my tax cut. Put it all into my 401K which went way up when Trump was in office and has since just slid sideways ever since we started to build back better.
If you had kids, you would like Biden's plan.

You can blame the pandemic on your 401K losses. I remember blaming the Bush Great Recession for my losses back in 2007-08.
 

Addy

Rebuild With Biden!
Actually, the Biden plan helps the middle and lower classes and gets the uber-wealthy to pay for it.

The Build Back Better Agenda
  • Lower Child Care Costs. For 57 percent of children under six, there are no good choices for child care where they live. ...
  • Lower Higher Education Costs. ...
  • Lower Prescription Drug Costs. ...
  • Lower Health Care Costs. ...
  • Lower Housing Costs.
We must have some High income earners on PJ making over 400,000... :) they seem so worried over the increase in corporate taxes being raised
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The House legislation calls for reversing a key plank of the Republicans' 2017 tax cuts by returning the top marginal income tax rate to 39.6%, up from 37%. That new top rate would apply to single filers with taxable income greater than $400,000 a year and married couples filing jointly earning more than $450,000 annually.
That's lower than the roughly top 1% threshold that Biden proposed earlier this year in his American Families Plan. But the committee's plan also is in keeping with the President's pledge that he would not increase taxes on those earning less than $400,000, which is more than 90% of taxpayers.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/19/politics/democrats-taxes-rich-explainer
 

JuliefromOhio

President
Supporting Member
We must have some High income earners on PJ making over 400,000... :) they seem so worried over the increase in corporate taxes being raised
____________________________
The House legislation calls for reversing a key plank of the Republicans' 2017 tax cuts by returning the top marginal income tax rate to 39.6%, up from 37%. That new top rate would apply to single filers with taxable income greater than $400,000 a year and married couples filing jointly earning more than $450,000 annually.
That's lower than the roughly top 1% threshold that Biden proposed earlier this year in his American Families Plan. But the committee's plan also is in keeping with the President's pledge that he would not increase taxes on those earning less than $400,000, which is more than 90% of taxpayers.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/19/politics/democrats-taxes-rich-explainer
It's difficult for them to hear the facts when rightwing media is brainwashing them with the falsehoods.
 
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