much more info at the link.
http://www.pewforum.org/2015/09/02/u-s-catholics-open-to-non-traditional-families/
Catholics and sin
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much more info at the link.
http://www.pewforum.org/2015/09/02/u-s-catholics-open-to-non-traditional-families/
Pope Francis: "Can you imagine the reaction from your Republican controlled Congress when I talk to them about Jesus' admonition to tend to the poor, the sick, fair wages, climate change, love your neighbor, etc.?"
"Other" includes those saying "don't know" and those who do not believe in sin.
LOL
LOL
and the conservative "Christian" base actually votes those phonies into office.
Addy
Stand up for the people!
Hard to understand why they love getting punked by those Con Christians... but they do.
Hard to understand why they love getting punked by those Con Christians... but they do.
it's hard to know who starts the crazy talk in the GOP. asking if it's the leadership or the base is like the chicken/egg question.
it's said that Democrats despise their base
while Republicans fear their base.
marvin martian
Emperor
I'm not Catholic, so maybe you two church ladies can help me here. Do the parishioners get to make the rules in your church?
Charcat
One of the Patsy's
I guess I don't understand what you're trying to say about catholics. Want to just spit it out in your own words?
connieb
Senator
Sounds to me like she is saying that about half of Catholics are poorly catecized.
Which has long been a complaint of the Vatican's. http://www.ncregister.com/daily-new...ys-there-is-great-need-to-catechize-catholics
And, which I can attest is a great annoyance. I went through the RCIA program - the religious education for adults looking to convert. I didn't ultimately convert. Among other things - there is nothing at all that can ever convince me that the wine and crakers actually becomes the body and blood. Sorry not happening.
But, it is rather annoying to run into Catholics who don't know what their church teaches or more importantly why.
For instance people get caught up in the no BC thing and they don't understand WHY the church says no to BC. They don't understand how BC interferes with the unititive aspects of sexual intercourse. They don't understand why each act of intercourse is supposed to re-affirm the marriage bond, and what kind of a statement and commitment you are making to each other, and why that is important for the health of your marriage and relationship, etc. They believe the feminist tripe that its bad for women, that its patriarchal, etc. But, as a non-catholic woman married to a catholic man and who has used BC methods inline with the church teaching, I will say there is nothing at all anti-woman about it. And, it has nothing to do with wanting to control my body, etc. It actually has everything to do with embracing my fertility as a gift that it is. And, nothing is more about celebrating feminism than celebrating the wonder that is the miracle of being able to grow a tiny new person in your body. Something that no man will ever be able to do.
But, people don't like to hear things contrary to what makes like easy and enjoyable to them. So, they don't really want to learn and they want to have their cake and eat it too.
Caroljo
Senator
I suppose you have proof that in this picture, that is what was said? Or are you just pulling it out your ass?
Besides, what do you care what Catholics think?
that today's Catholics are very conservative?
now why would you think that was a legit quote?
Charcat
One of the Patsy's
Are you asking me, or just being snarky?
Caroljo
Senator
I knew it wasn't....I thought maybe you were just trying to pull more BS and pass something off as the truth.
resident_evil
Senator
Yeah, your problem is that the half you're talking about aren't practicing Catholics. They're the ones Francis is trying to call back. He might lose the other half when he does that. ha ha
Charcat
One of the Patsy's
I don't recall Jesus admonishing anyone about climate change or fair wages. And the Republican controlled Congress has no problems with taking care of the poor and the sick. It's the ones that sit on their butts and collect welfare when they are capable of working that are the problems.
I don't think Jesus would admonish anyone for telling those that are capable to go to work, and then they could help care for the truly poor and sick.
marvin martian
Emperor
I don't recall any biblical passages about giving "charity" at the point of a gun (or sword, in that case)...
D
Deleted member 21794
Guest
So then would you say Hillary Clinton is authentic? I mean you know, since Republicans are so phony, I would think you believe your side is better, right? So what are your thoughts on Hillary Clinton in that regard?
Oh and you must have missed this question- are you a Christian?
