Consequences shmonsequences. Putin shrugs...moves west

[PhilFish]

We just took them out of Afghanistan now you want to put them into another decades long quagmire ?

You can see the future? Elaborate...how do you know there is a decades long conflict pending?

 

[Spamature]

You can see the future? Elaborate...how do you know there is a decades long conflict pending?

Biden firmly believes so and warned Putin of just that.
Like I said, an insurgency is easier to fund than it is to fight against.

 

[Spamature]

What's the game plan....pretend you don't know?

Biden just had a speech about it.
He plans to hurt their economy and likely to support resistance to Russia in Ukraine and elsewhere.

 

[PhilFish]

Biden firmly believes so and warned Putin of just that.
Like I said, an insurgency is easier to fund than it is to fight against.

Biden believes there's a decades long conflict?? Link?

 

[PhilFish]

Biden just had a speech about it.
He plans to hurt their economy and likely to support resistance to Russia in Ukraine and elsewhere.

The Orthodox Epiphany is today. Russians everywhere went out in sub zero temps and threw themselves in rivers and streams...

What hurt will come to a people who eat root vegetables and grain..... They'll shrug at sanctions

 

[Spamature]

The Orthodox Epiphany is today. Russians everywhere went out in sub zero temps and threw themselves in rivers and streams...

What hurt will come to a people who eat root vegetables and grain..... They'll shrug at sanctions

The fact that 45% of their economy depends on the very people they are going up against.

Let's see how long they want to eat roots and bathe in icy rivers.

 

[PhilFish]

The fact that 45% of their economy depends on the very people they are going up against.

Let's see how long they want to eat roots and bathe in icy rivers.

Uh...beet root soup and potato perogies are kind of a thing there....like.. national dishes

 

[Spamature]

Uh...beet root soup and potato perogies are kind of a thing there....like.. national dishes

They we can see how much they really like it when that all the economy can produce because Putin decided that NATO should disband and retreat.

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

Are you kidding? Putin has demanded absolutely unacceptable changes to NATO and US defense policies. He is trying to tell his population that the west is a threat.

I believe that he is bluffing. His economy is not able to support a war. His military is in a state of disrepair....Would he chance a popular revolt against his rule?

He can demand such changes until the cows come home. He’s not going to get them. He may be bluffing - we don’t know. He’s got a shitstorm on his hands if he invades.

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

The Orthodox Epiphany is today. Russians everywhere went out in sub zero temps and threw themselves in rivers and streams...

What hurt will come to a people who eat root vegetables and grain..... They'll shrug at sanctions

To be effective sanctions have to hit Putin and the oligarchs in the wallet. That takes concerted efforts from the western world and big business.

 

[EatTheRich]

Why do you think Britain and France would have gone to war?

Remember that in 1933 the Japanese had defied the world and invaded China...the world did nothing. Mussolini went to war in Africa against Ethiopia...the world did nothing.

Haven't we learned?

Over colonies and more generally the inevitable rivalry of imperialist powers. Same reason Britain sank the French Mediterranean fleet.

 

[PhilFish]

To be effective sanctions have to hit Putin and the oligarchs in the wallet. That takes concerted efforts from the western world and big business.

yes. meanwhile, Putin will very likely waltz in to Ukraine, and putins new Puppet will smile and little else...

 

[EatTheRich]

The Orthodox Epiphany is today. Russians everywhere went out in sub zero temps and threw themselves in rivers and streams...

What hurt will come to a people who eat root vegetables and grain..... They'll shrug at sanctions

Putin’s regime is already tottering hence his need to throw his weight around to compensate for his tremendous unpopularity. Inability to pay soldiers and key workers will inevitably spell collapse.

 

[PhilFish]

Putin’s regime is already tottering hence his need to throw his weight around to compensate for his tremendous unpopularity. Inability to pay soldiers and key workers will inevitably spell collapse.

exactly why standing up to him now is in order even his people yearn for ties to the west...

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

yes. meanwhile, Putin will very likely waltz in to Ukraine, and putins new Puppet will smile and little else...

Trump?

 

[PhilFish]

Trump?

nay. new puppet

 

[EatTheRich]

exactly why standing up to him now is in order even his people yearn for ties to the west...

Well, the U.S. is offering the stiffest resistance it has ever offered his regime. I do not support sanctions or belligerent troop movements but I am glad to see military aid to Ukraine being stepped up so dramatically.

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

nay. new puppet

Reminds me of when Trump accused Hillary of being Putin’s puppet.

Bizarroworld.

 

[PhilFish]

Well, the U.S. is offering the stiffest resistance it has ever offered his regime. I do not support sanctions or belligerent troop movements but I am glad to see military aid to Ukraine being stepped up so dramatically.

what stiff resistance would that be?

 

[PhilFish]

Reminds me of when Trump accused Hillary of being Putin’s puppet.

Bizarroworld.

reminds me of Putin's new puppet...Joey B