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Eh, those in Prisons in America were sent there by a Judge or a Jury of their Peers for committing a Crime, not for saying the government sucks...if it did few if any wouldn't be Prisoners.

You love Cuba but live in Montana.........Cuba is so great Cubans have floated on anything that will float to AMERICA for decades
As would people from any other country if it meant automatic residency and job placement assistance. What is remarkable is how few people came on boats in the 2000s when Cuba was much wealthier and freer than it is now.

The U.S. has a long history of framing dissidents. Cuba does have reactionary laws against criticizing the government, but they are not enforced. It is almost impossible to get locked up in Cuba without committing violent crimes.
 
The deterioration of respect for human rights I Cuba has gone hand in hand with the reintroduction of capitalism, which the repression of the masses is intended to effect.
Blame everything except communism. It must be in the manual.

The problem for you is that it simply isn't true. The repression began under Fidel Catro - communist:


Cuba: Fidel Castro’s Record of Repression​


...“As other countries in the region turned away from authoritarian rule, only Fidel Castro’s Cuba continued to repress virtually all civil and political rights,” said José Miguel Vivanco, Americas director at Human Rights Watch. “Castro’s draconian rule and the harsh punishments he meted out to dissidents kept his repressive system rooted firmly in place for decades.”...






If Cuba is your best example of communist benevolence, then you really have nothing.That should be obvious to you.

Is it your plan to make more excuses for that horrible system, and try to explain away history?
 
Blame everything except communism. It must be in the manual.

The problem for you is that it simply isn't true. The repression began under Fidel Catro - communist:


Cuba: Fidel Castro’s Record of Repression​


...“As other countries in the region turned away from authoritarian rule, only Fidel Castro’s Cuba continued to repress virtually all civil and political rights,” said José Miguel Vivanco, Americas director at Human Rights Watch. “Castro’s draconian rule and the harsh punishments he meted out to dissidents kept his repressive system rooted firmly in place for decades.”...





If Cuba is your best example of communist benevolence, then you really have nothing.That should be obvious to you.

Is it your plan to make more excuses for that horrible system, and try to explain away history?
The billionaires’ thralls exaggerated repression in Cuba to punish that country for putting the interest of working people and the oppressed ahead of the billionaires’. Yes, Cuba from the beginning was saddled with a semi-Stalinist bureaucratic dictatorship that emulated the USSR and China and drew strength from the imperialists’ Cold War against Cuba and the repression attendant to defending against it, but Cuba went through multiple deliberate government-driven campaigns of democratization in an effort to combat the dictatorial tendencies of this bureaucracy, and for decades had a far better human rights record than the U.S.-backed capitalist regimes in for example Guatemala, El Salvador, Haiti, or the Dominican Republic.
 
The billionaires’ thralls exaggerated repression in Cuba to punish that country for putting the interest of working people and the oppressed ahead of the billionaires’. Yes, Cuba from the beginning was saddled with a semi-Stalinist bureaucratic dictatorship that emulated the USSR and China and drew strength from the imperialists’ Cold War against Cuba and the repression attendant to defending against it, but Cuba went through multiple deliberate government-driven campaigns of democratization in an effort to combat the dictatorial tendencies of this bureaucracy, and for decades had a far better human rights record than the U.S.-backed capitalist regimes in for example Guatemala, El Salvador, Haiti, or the Dominican Republic.

Why would all this capitalist oppression occur under communism?

Why does it happen every time? In every communist country?

Why does communism have a zero-success rate? Why does it always, always result in brutal dictatorships?

And why would any sane individual refuse to learn that lesson?
 
Why would all this capitalist oppression occur under communism?

Why does it happen every time? In every communist country?

Why does communism have a zero-success rate? Why does it always, always result in brutal dictatorships?

And why would any sane individual refuse to learn that lesson?
Syphilitic dementia.
 
Why would all this capitalist oppression occur under communism?

Why does it happen every time? In every communist country?

Why does communism have a zero-success rate? Why does it always, always result in brutal dictatorships?

And why would any sane individual refuse to learn that lesson?
The war between the working class and the billionaire exploiters is an international one. One of the specific national forms it takes is the socialist revolution led by the workers, and the counterrevolution, organized through the counterrevolutionary workers’ state and reflecting the special interests of the labor aristocracy and labor bureaucracy, that aims to limit and ultimately reverse that revolution.

Although every country that has had such a revolution has greatly increased its standard of living, and although every workers’ state has been considerably less brutal than the capitalist societies that preceded or followed in the same countries, and although communism put an end to both world wars, Nazism, Jim Crow, and apartheid, we are told that “communism has a zero-success rate” because it has not, in 150 years, solved all the economic and social problems that capitalism also has not solved, in 500 years.
 
The war between the working class and the billionaire exploiters is an international one. One of the specific national forms it takes is the socialist revolution led by the workers, and the counterrevolution, organized through the counterrevolutionary workers’ state and reflecting the special interests of the labor aristocracy and labor bureaucracy, that aims to limit and ultimately reverse that revolution.

Although every country that has had such a revolution has greatly increased its standard of living, and although every workers’ state has been considerably less brutal than the capitalist societies that preceded or followed in the same countries, and although communism put an end to both world wars, Nazism, Jim Crow, and apartheid, we are told that “communism has a zero-success rate” because it has not, in 150 years, solved all the economic and social problems that capitalism also has not solved, in 500 years.

We've already established that the working-class fares much better under the capitalist system, so why bother with that nonsense? Is that what the manual says to do when you have no answers for the repeated failures of communism?

So again I suspect you'll dodge this one:

Why does communism always result in brutal dictatorships and human rights abuse?

Why?
 
We've already established that the working-class fares much better under the capitalist system, so why bother with that nonsense? Is that what the manual says to do when you have no answers for the repeated failures of communism?

So again I suspect you'll dodge this one:

Why does communism always result in brutal dictatorships and human rights abuse?

Why?
That just isn’t true. Life expectancy rose in every country that became socialist, and fell in every country reverting to capitalism other than China. Capitalism gave the world Auschwitz, the firebombing of Tokyo, and 11 million annual preventable deaths from starvation.

Brutal dictatorships and human rights abuse, generally reflecting the abandonment of communist leadership under external pressure, are typical of countries at war and of ruling classes that are not secure in power (that is, dying ruling classes like the bourgeoisie and rising ruling classes like the proletariat). It is revealing that, empirically, victories for the international communist movement mean less brutality and human rights abuse in workers’ states (for example, de-Stalinization in the USSR following in the wake of the Soviet defeat of Hitler, the Korean War victory over the U.S., and the Soviet development of nuclear weapons) while victories for the capitalists mean more brutality and human rights abuse in the workers’ states (for example, Mussolini’s victory helped catalyze Stalin’s political reversal of Lenin’s communist course, while the rise of Hitler and Franco gave birth to the Soviets’ Great Purge).
 
That just isn’t true. Life expectancy rose in every country that became socialist, and fell in every country reverting to capitalism other than China. Capitalism gave the world Auschwitz, the firebombing of Tokyo, and 11 million annual preventable deaths from starvation.

Brutal dictatorships and human rights abuse, generally reflecting the abandonment of communist leadership under external pressure, are typical of countries at war and of ruling classes that are not secure in power (that is, dying ruling classes like the bourgeoisie and rising ruling classes like the proletariat). It is revealing that, empirically, victories for the international communist movement mean less brutality and human rights abuse in workers’ states (for example, de-Stalinization in the USSR following in the wake of the Soviet defeat of Hitler, the Korean War victory over the U.S., and the Soviet development of nuclear weapons) while victories for the capitalists mean more brutality and human rights abuse in the workers’ states (for example, Mussolini’s victory helped catalyze Stalin’s political reversal of Lenin’s communist course, while the rise of Hitler and Franco gave birth to the Soviets’ Great Purge).


Yes, the factory workers in communist China live rich and abundant lives.


Factory workers in China often face 12–16 hour shifts, six days a week, with overtime pay sometimes as low as 55 cents per hour...While some modern factories (like the one in Guangdong) have ergonomic workstations, proper lighting, and good safety measures Reddit, many older plants use outdated equipment, leading to injuries from overheated machinery, caustic chemicals, and repetitive strain Woman - The Nest. Workers may lose limbs or suffer blisters, rashes, and bruises, and access to medical care is limited — many rely on the underfunded national healthcare system

Want to try Cuba again?

Cuba’s wages remain among the lowest in the world, with the official minimum wage at 2,100 Cuban pesos (CUP) per month since January 2021, equivalent to about $5 USD at the official exchange rate but only $0.03 USD at the informal market rate



Try another lie. This is fun.
 
Yes, the factory workers in communist China live rich and abundant lives.


Factory workers in China often face 12–16 hour shifts, six days a week, with overtime pay sometimes as low as 55 cents per hour...While some modern factories (like the one in Guangdong) have ergonomic workstations, proper lighting, and good safety measures Reddit, many older plants use outdated equipment, leading to injuries from overheated machinery, caustic chemicals, and repetitive strain Woman - The Nest. Workers may lose limbs or suffer blisters, rashes, and bruises, and access to medical care is limited — many rely on the underfunded national healthcare system

Want to try Cuba again?

Cuba’s wages remain among the lowest in the world, with the official minimum wage at 2,100 Cuban pesos (CUP) per month since January 2021, equivalent to about $5 USD at the official exchange rate but only $0.03 USD at the informal market rat



Try another lie. This is fun.
In 1978, China began a long-term retreat from socialism labeled “Reform and Opening Up,” culminating with the 2008 Beijing Olympics in a decisive political victory of the capitalist class over the workers marking the return to capitalism (with remnant pockets of socialism.) Thus, today 70% of wealth in China is privately owned, and private enterprise is responsible for 60% of GDP. It was in this context that the standard 48-hour workweek under Mao gave rise to the 72-hour workweek insisted on by many private employers. Although this 72-hour workweek was explicitly ruled illegal by the Chinese Supreme Court in 2021, the counterrevolution has led to a weakening of the left-wing elements in the unions and state, leaving effective enforcement of the current (as of 1995) 40-hour week and 3-hour daily/36-hour monthly cap on overtime lacking, especially against the American- and Japanese-owned businesses that are the worst offenders.

Cuba is now embarking on the same capitalist road, making it inevitable that conditions there will deteriorate. The fight for communism is a fight to replace the inherently exploitative wages system with voluntary production and distribution based on communal ownership; it is true that Cuba has very low wages, but it also has free education and medical care, housing that is free for over 85% of the population and cheap for the rest, low-cost utilities, and the cheapest prices for food anywhere in the world except Vietnam.
 
In 1978, China began a long-term retreat from socialism labeled “Reform and Opening Up,” culminating with the 2008 Beijing Olympics in a decisive political victory of the capitalist class over the workers marking the return to capitalism (with remnant pockets of socialism.) Thus, today 70% of wealth in China is privately owned, and private enterprise is responsible for 60% of GDP. It was in this context that the standard 48-hour workweek under Mao gave rise to the 72-hour workweek insisted on by many private employers. Although this 72-hour workweek was explicitly ruled illegal by the Chinese Supreme Court in 2021, the counterrevolution has led to a weakening of the left-wing elements in the unions and state, leaving effective enforcement of the current (as of 1995) 40-hour week and 3-hour daily/36-hour monthly cap on overtime lacking, especially against the American- and Japanese-owned businesses that are the worst offenders.

Cuba is now embarking on the same capitalist road, making it inevitable that conditions there will deteriorate. The fight for communism is a fight to replace the inherently exploitative wages system with voluntary production and distribution based on communal ownership; it is true that Cuba has very low wages, but it also has free education and medical care, housing that is free for over 85% of the population and cheap for the rest, low-cost utilities, and the cheapest prices for food anywhere in the world except Vietnam.
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In 1978, China began a long-term retreat from socialism labeled “Reform and Opening Up,” culminating with the 2008 Beijing Olympics in a decisive political victory of the capitalist class over the workers marking the return to capitalism (with remnant pockets of socialism.) Thus, today 70% of wealth in China is privately owned, and private enterprise is responsible for 60% of GDP. It was in this context that the standard 48-hour workweek under Mao gave rise to the 72-hour workweek insisted on by many private employers. Although this 72-hour workweek was explicitly ruled illegal by the Chinese Supreme Court in 2021, the counterrevolution has led to a weakening of the left-wing elements in the unions and state, leaving effective enforcement of the current (as of 1995) 40-hour week and 3-hour daily/36-hour monthly cap on overtime lacking, especially against the American- and Japanese-owned businesses that are the worst offenders.

Cuba is now embarking on the same capitalist road, making it inevitable that conditions there will deteriorate. The fight for communism is a fight to replace the inherently exploitative wages system with voluntary production and distribution based on communal ownership; it is true that Cuba has very low wages, but it also has free education and medical care, housing that is free for over 85% of the population and cheap for the rest, low-cost utilities, and the cheapest prices for food anywhere in the world except Vietnam.
Both countries are communist.

In both countries, their workers do far worse than workers in the USA.

You can continue to make excuses for your inferior system if you like, but those facts won't go away.

Communism is inferior in every way imaginable. And you know, that's why you stay here.


The good news is you'll never live one second of your life under communist oppression. You'll stay here, enjoy all the benefits of the superior capitalist system, and whine about it.

That's the plan, no?


:D
 
Both countries are communist.

In both countries, their workers do far worse than workers in the USA.

You can continue to make excuses for your inferior system if you like, but those facts won't go away.

Communism is inferior in every way imaginable. And you know, that's why you stay here.


The good news is you'll never live one second of your life under communist oppression. You'll stay here, enjoy all the benefits of the superior capitalist system, and whine about it.

That's the plan, no?


:D
Workers in the U.S. are much more likely to be incarcerated. Anyway, why are you comparing them to the richest country in the world, which uses the profits from superexploitation of the colonies and semicolonial world to cushion the effects of capitalism on its workers, and not to those same countries before their revolutions, or to countries like India and Haiti which had higher standards of living before continuing on the capitalist path?

Anyway, capitalism has clearly largely been restored in China and awaits only the defeat of a battered working class to be restored in Cuba.
 
Workers in the U.S. are much more likely to be incarcerated. Anyway, why are you comparing them to the richest country in the world, which uses the profits from superexploitation of the colonies and semicolonial world to cushion the effects of capitalism on its workers, and not to those same countries before their revolutions, or to countries like India and Haiti which had higher standards of living before continuing on the capitalist path?

Anyway, capitalism has clearly largely been restored in China and awaits only the defeat of a battered working class to be restored in Cuba.

You are perhaps successfully deluding yourself. Then again, perhaps not.

I doubt that you will be able to fool anyone else, however. No one reads you your rights in the communist system when they come to take you away. Indeed, you have none.

And you will continue to pontificate from the safety of the capitalist system you decry.

Talk the talk, will never walk the walk.

And there's your bottom line.
 
You are perhaps successfully deluding yourself. Then again, perhaps not.

I doubt that you will be able to fool anyone else, however. No one reads you your rights in the communist system when they come to take you away. Indeed, you have none.

And you will continue to pontificate from the safety of the capitalist system you decry.

Talk the talk, will never walk the walk.

And there's your bottom line.
Mm hmm.

It is true that the U.S. has historically offered greater scope for democracy than many other countries, due to the long history of fights against the capitalist government led by the plebeian masses, the leftist stamp they put on its founding revolutions, and the extent to which the hoarded wealth gained from superexploitation of the colonial and semicolonial world created a population with more modest demands while allowing elasticity for strategically timed concessions. But the burgeoning dictatorship associated with Trumpism suggests that such is no longer the case.

It is also the case that people had more rights in the socialist German Democratic Republic than under Hitler’s capitalist regime, far more in Cuba than under the Somozas, Duarte, Duvalier, etc., more under Ho Chi Minh than under the successive South Vietnamese dictatorships, etc. Furthermore, when Chile attempted to build socialism through democratic elections and scrupulous observance of civil rights, the capitalists (through the U.S. government) organized a fascist coup that killed their leader and brought untold misery to their people, and when Nicaragua attempted to do the same, the capitalists (again through the U.S. government) organized a relentless terrorist war on its people that would not cease until their candidate … who restricted civil rights … was in power. This is what I mean when I say the growth in a workers’ state of a dictatorship that the enemies of socialism can use to undermine it reflects the external pressure of the capitalists.
 
Mm hmm.

It is true that the U.S. has historically offered greater scope for democracy than many other countries, due to the long history of fights against the capitalist government led by the plebeian masses, the leftist stamp they put on its founding revolutions, and the extent to which the hoarded wealth gained from superexploitation of the colonial and semicolonial world created a population with more modest demands while allowing elasticity for strategically timed concessions. But the burgeoning dictatorship associated with Trumpism suggests that such is no longer the case.

It is also the case that people had more rights in the socialist German Democratic Republic than under Hitler’s capitalist regime, far more in Cuba than under the Somozas, Duarte, Duvalier, etc., more under Ho Chi Minh than under the successive South Vietnamese dictatorships, etc. Furthermore, when Chile attempted to build socialism through democratic elections and scrupulous observance of civil rights, the capitalists (through the U.S. government) organized a fascist coup that killed their leader and brought untold misery to their people, and when Nicaragua attempted to do the same, the capitalists (again through the U.S. government) organized a relentless terrorist war on its people that would not cease until their candidate … who restricted civil rights … was in power. This is what I mean when I say the growth in a workers’ state of a dictatorship that the enemies of socialism can use to undermine it reflects the external pressure of the capitalists.

Until you walk the walk, there is no reason to believe a word you say.

If you don't believe it, why should anyone?
 
Not by communism.

Communist countries, on the other hand, could be improved by eliminating the communism and replacing it with freedom and democracy.

But then, you already knew that.
What country came under communist or even pseudo-communist leadership and did not become freer and more democratic?
 
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