Editing double standards

[fairsheet]

I don't have permission to join the other thread with this subject line, so I'll start my own. I've been messing around with these various political forums for some time now. One of the things that's remained consistent throughout, is that the righters AND lefters seem absolutely convinced that the moderators and administrators are out to get them. I suppose this suggests that the mods and admins are doing something right.

 

[Craig]

I don't have permission to join the other thread with this subject line, so I'll start my own. I've been messing around with these various political forums for some time now. One of the things that's remained consistent throughout, is that the righters AND lefters seem absolutely convinced that the moderators and administrators are out to get them. I suppose this suggests that the mods and admins are doing something right.

I have never had any issue with any mods, save one.

That was back at Slate...when Cheese was being particularly vile on Ballot Box. The mods were informed, but took no action. So...we up rated his nastiest post so it appeared on Slate's front page. Then the mod took action and suspended all who up rated the post.

I guess one might say we were out to get the mod...

 

[Jen]

I have never had any issue with any mods, save one.

That was back at Slate...when Cheese was being particularly vile on Ballot Box. The mods were informed, but took no action. So...we up rated his nastiest post so it appeared on Slate's front page. Then the mod took action and suspended all who up rated the post.

I guess one might say we were out to get the mod...

I remember that...........or a similar incident that resulted in the same thing.
And if moderators didn't deal with a person that is infecting the whole board, I guess it was the next best thing to do.

We have irritating posters here but fortunately, I believe that those infectious ones who could ruin a board are gone at this point.

Moderators are human. I believe they are doing their best here on PJ (though I don't appreciate it when they seem to bait posters). It's a thankless job.

 

[bdtex]

I have never had any issue with any mods, save one.

That was back at Slate...when Cheese was being particularly vile on Ballot Box. The mods were informed, but took no action. So...we up rated his nastiest post so it appeared on Slate's front page. Then the mod took action and suspended all who up rated the post.

I guess one might say we were out to get the mod...

Funny you should mention that. I'm the one that suggested we uprate it and make it one of the feature uprated posts. I did the old "undo rating" thing before the Editor,whose name I don't remember,saw it and smacked the upraters.

 

[Jen]

Funny you should mention that. I'm the one that suggested we uprate it and make it one of the feature uprated posts. I did the old "undo rating" thing before the Editor,whose name I don't remember,saw it and smacked the upraters.

Do you remember the people involved?
What name was Cheese using at the time?
LONG list of people who got caught in that. ...
I remember it happening but the memory has a lot of blanks in it.
Definitely funny.

 

[Craig]

Funny you should mention that. I'm the one that suggested we uprate it and make it one of the feature uprated posts. I did the old "undo rating" thing before the Editor,whose name I don't remember,saw it and smacked the upraters.

Awesome...

Jeremy?

 

[bdtex]

Do you remember the people involved?
What name was Cheese using at the time?
LONG list of people who got caught in that. ...
I remember it happening but the memory has a lot of blanks in it.
Definitely funny.

I don't remember. That woulda been in 2009 or 2010. No way I could remember all of FreeCheese's nics. There were way too many upraters who got smacked to remember all of them too. Not me. Obviously,Craig was one of them. lol!

 

[Jen]

I don't remember. That woulda been in 2009 or 2010. No way I could remember all of FreeCheese's nics. There were way too many upraters who got smacked to remember all of them too. Not me. Obviously,Craig was one of them. lol!

I'm thinking I uprated then thought............"this wasn't a good idea" and got outta there just in time. But I might be remembering wrong. That incident is worthy of remembering. Wish I remembered it better.

Some names have changed. Mine's always been Jen. I don't remember who Craig was on BB but I don't remember a Craig there.

 

[Craig]

I'm thinking I uprated then thought............"this wasn't a good idea" and got outta there just in time. But I might be remembering wrong. That incident is worthy of remembering. Wish I remembered it better.

Some names have changed. Mine's always been Jen. I don't remember who Craig was on BB but I don't remember a Craig there.

I was Craig. I have always been Craig.

 

[Jen]

I was Craig. I have always been Craig.

My memory is obviously failing.
My apologies.

 

[Craig]

My memory is obviously failing.
My apologies.

No problem.

 

[PhilFish]

Jeremy was the mod there then... maybe? a whole host of folks got slammed..

 

[fairsheet]

I took issue with PJ moderation early on, when it had a different set of owners. We had a variety of different moderators of presumably good faith, who didn't seem to realize how much of them and their personal feelings, they were imparting to their moderation duties. They were censoring without comprehending that they were.

 

[Jen]

I took issue with PJ moderation early on, when it had a different set of owners. We had a variety of different moderators of presumably good faith, who didn't seem to realize how much of them and their personal feelings, they were imparting to their moderation duties. They were censoring without comprehending that they were.

In the early days when you moderated, fairsheet, each side moderated its own but not the other side.
I don't understand how you, in all honesty, can say what you've said here.

 

[fairsheet]

In the early days when you moderated, fairsheet, each side moderated its own but not the other side.
I don't understand how you, in all honesty, can say what you've said here.

I quit moderating after a less than a week, as soon as I figured out that I was in the wrong place. As to how I can take issue with the moderators who presumably only moderated "their own"? Why the hell shouldn't I? I noted that I assumed the moderators to be of good faith. My obvious implication was that I wasn't implying any particular partisan problem with them.

 

[PhilFish]

I took issue with PJ moderation early on, when it had a different set of owners. We had a variety of different moderators of presumably good faith, who didn't seem to realize how much of them and their personal feelings, they were imparting to their moderation duties. They were censoring without comprehending that they were.

it did take a while to overcome the penchant for BB-esque feuding and spamming early on, I agree..

 

[Caroljo]

I keep hearing of BB and kinda wish I'd been there...sounds like quite a crew! Lol!

What I don't like is the deletion of some posts that are no worse than others...but those "others' don't get deleted. I don't think ANY post should be deleted. If someone is really saying something wrong, then they should eventually be temporarily banned.

 

[Jen]

I keep hearing of BB and kinda wish I'd been there...sounds like quite a crew! Lol!

What I don't like is the deletion of some posts that are no worse than others...but those "others' don't get deleted. I don't think ANY post should be deleted. If someone is really saying something wrong, then they should eventually be temporarily banned.

Given that which posts are deleted depends on who is moderating at the time, I would have to go with you and say that no post should be deleted. Sometimes there are words within a post that must disappear.

If any attempt at all is being made for fairness, every moderator should readily admit that he/she is biased and that in order to keep from being the Censor Overlord of things they don't agree with, only specifically offensive words should be deleted.... not entire posts.

 

[PhilFish]

Given that which posts are deleted depends on who is moderating at the time, I would have to go with you and say that no post should be deleted. Sometimes there are words within a post that must disappear.

If any attempt at all is being made for fairness, every moderator should readily admit that he/she is biased and that in order to keep from being the Censor Overlord of things they don't agree with, only specifically offensive words should be deleted.... not entire posts.

I dont think it is a matter of deleting things not agreed with. There is plenty of that. It is more a matter of deleting over the top vitriol and nonsense... always has been

 

[LeilaniMP]

Funny you should mention that. I'm the one that suggested we uprate it and make it one of the feature uprated posts. I did the old "undo rating" thing before the Editor,whose name I don't remember,saw it and smacked the upraters.

always a weasel, huh?