Embarrassing

[Renee]

Obama, along with those who voted for him (especially twice) should be mortified at what he's managed to do. Even Jimmy Carter looks almost stellar next to Obama. I'm mortified at his performance and I knew better than to vote for him. I really don't even want to talk about how bad he is. But you have spelled it out perfectly here.

What did he do?

If you were still answering me.................

First I would love to see us leave Syria alone altogether and certainly not bomb them.
An impeachment would be horrible because then we'd be stuck with Biden.
As for Russia and Syria supposedly coming around because of Obama's threat, I think it's because neither one of them want WW3 to get started.
You do know that Russia has missiles that are unstoppable and could easily blow a number of our ships out of the water, right?
I think it's time that our gov't learned some diplomacy. Diplomacy is not just buying other countries or blowing them up.

diplomacy |diˈplōməsē|nounthe profession, activity, or skill of managing international relations, typically by a country's representatives abroad : an extensive round of diplomacy in the Middle East.• the art of dealing with people in a sensitive and effective way : his genius for tact and diplomacy.ORIGIN late 18th cent.: from French diplomatie, from diplomatique‘diplomatic,’ on the pattern of aristocratie ‘aristocracy.’

Obama called their bluff.....it led to just what you wanted ...diplomacy. Aren't you happy?

 

[Jen]

What did he do?



Obama called their bluff.....it led to just what you wanted ...diplomacy. Aren't you happy?

All this particular diplomacy does is allow Syria to carry on as it was carrying on with its civil war ( the only thing that was stopping it was Obama putting his foot in his mouth with that "red line" thing ). Putin stepped in and helped Obama slink away and pull the foot out of his mouth.

So this wonderful "diplomacy" allows Putin to look like a statesman and allows Obama to scurry back into a corner and allows Assad to continue what he was previously doing but now, with added weapons and support from Putin such that he no longer needs his chemical weapons.

I guess that's good for everyone (except for the US that now looks like the non-special nation that Obama wanted it to look like all along). I have to snicker when I see Obama or one of his little minions trying to paint this as a victory for Obama. It was no such thing unless getting one's foot out of one's own mouth is a "victory".

 

[Boca]

...the Congress as well as the American electorate has lost confidence and trust in our president.

Don't tell that to NBC or the other official Obama Broadcast Corporations.

 

[JuliefromOhio]

All this particular diplomacy does is allow Syria to carry on as it was carrying on with its civil war ( the only thing that was stopping it was Obama putting his foot in his mouth with that "red line" thing ). Putin stepped in and helped Obama slink away and pull the foot out of his mouth.

So this wonderful "diplomacy" allows Putin to look like a statesman and allows Obama to scurry back into a corner and allows Assad to continue what he was previously doing but now, with added weapons and support from Putin such that he no longer needs his chemical weapons.

I guess that's good for everyone (except for the US that now looks like the non-special nation that Obama wanted it to look like all along). I have to snicker when I see Obama or one of his little minions trying to paint this as a victory for Obama. It was no such thing unless getting one's foot out of one's own mouth is a "victory".

you wanted Obama to invade Syria and stop their civil war? hahaha
you cons crack me up.

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

If you are on the left or the right or just in the middle somewhere there is little doubt that concerning the handling of the crisis in Syria Obama has become an embarrassment to our nation. Leading from behind has proven yet another failure for Obama. I was thinking trying to be objective and when I look at the Obama legacy and his overall performance as our commander in chief it struck me that his handling of Syria is a mirror image of his presidency. Mr. President you cannot have it both ways and your never ending blame game and your apologetic speaking tours have weakened America. Your fundamental change is not the kind of change most of us anticipated nor desired. Now as Obama literally sits on the side lines we are to take direction from a Russian Thug a former KGB agent and a country who assists Iran as well as Syria. This is crazy stuff. The problem is not what to do in Syria the real problem is credibility if it be Putin or Assad but the real credibility loss lies in Obama. The Congress as well as the American electorate has lost confidence and trust in our president. Are we to be dictated to by international criminals are we to trust and arm the very folks who are trying to kill all of us. This is insane. Obama needs to lead, he needs to stand up to any faction that threatens our national security. The use and spread of chemical as well as nuclear weapons is that threat. Giving North Korea, Iran. or Syria the green light is not in our best interest.

So you figure Obama will be disgraced by future historians for ending Syrian gassings without firing a shot?

Maybe in history books written by GOP propagandists.

;-)

 

[Zoar]

If you are on the left or the right or just in the middle somewhere there is little doubt that concerning the handling of the crisis in Syria Obama has become an embarrassment to our nation. Leading from behind has proven yet another failure for Obama. I was thinking trying to be objective and when I look at the Obama legacy and his overall performance as our commander in chief it struck me that his handling of Syria is a mirror image of his presidency. Mr. President you cannot have it both ways and your never ending blame game and your apologetic speaking tours have weakened America. Your fundamental change is not the kind of change most of us anticipated nor desired. Now as Obama literally sits on the side lines we are to take direction from a Russian Thug a former KGB agent and a country who assists Iran as well as Syria. This is crazy stuff. The problem is not what to do in Syria the real problem is credibility if it be Putin or Assad but the real credibility loss lies in Obama. The Congress as well as the American electorate has lost confidence and trust in our president. Are we to be dictated to by international criminals are we to trust and arm the very folks who are trying to kill all of us. This is insane. Obama needs to lead, he needs to stand up to any faction that threatens our national security. The use and spread of chemical as well as nuclear weapons is that threat. Giving North Korea, Iran. or Syria the green light is not in our best interest.

That top post is an embarrassment to truth. What, you prefer the FearOMeter and US presidents who say Terror or WMD every other sentence???? Or Raygun and his endless military spending on shit that didn't fly or didn't shoot!!!!!

 

[Zoar]

Am Patty i bet you have Roniie Reagan bedset and pillows.

 

[MaryAnne]

I don't have to be a therapist to know that Charles Manson is. a psychopath, I don't have to be a therapist to know you have an obsessive hatred for Obama, I truly pity anyone who has the unfortunate experience of getting on your bad side
PS do you see the humor in your hypocrisy? You have told me and others we are "sick" and aren't we complete strangers? Or are we buddies. Once again.....taking the higher moral ground while shooting from the gutter.

Renee I am with you on this one!

Obama negotiated to keep us out of another useless war, and the haters are so angry they have to turn that hate on some one. Yes,they are pathological haters. There is no other word for it.

It must be awful to be so full of hate. I do not like GW Bush,but he has to answer for what he did. I do not hate him.

 

[Jen]

Renee I am with you on this one!

Obama negotiated to keep us out of another useless war, and the haters are so angry they have to turn that hate on some one. Yes,they are pathological haters. There is no other word for it.

It must be awful to be so full of hate. I do not like GW Bush,but he has to answer for what he did. I do not hate him.

MaryAnne, I'm glad you have no "pathological hatred" of Bush no matter what you said, thought, posted of him in the past.

It's sad to assume that because someone disagrees with the way Obama has handled things that they must be "pathological haters" ...........but you gave yourself a pass on that. I give you a pass on it too because I don't know what you said or thought when Bush was President. Only you and God know that. Too bad you can't offer up any compassion for anyone but yourself on this and allow for the idea that a person can disagree with Obama without being pathological about it.

 

[Renee]

Don't tell that to NBC or the other official Obama Broadcast Corporations.

And every other news station..but then again if they're not rightwing, they aren't legitimate.

 

[Renee]

I'm glad you have no "pathological hatred" of Bush no matter what you said, thought, posted of him in the past.

It's sad to assume that because someone disagrees with the way Obama has handled things that they must be "pathological haters" ...........but you gave yourself a pass on that. I give you a pass on it too because I don't know what you said or thought when Bush was President. Only you and God know that. Too bad you can't offer up any compassion for anyone but yourself on this and allow for the idea that a person can disagree with Obama without being pathological about it.

Pathological is when it is all consuming o the point of being abnormal. Here Obama has gotten gas out of the hands of Syria without one person being killed and yet you see it as a disgrace. Don't talk about compassion.....all you so is show contempt for those in need...unless of course they are good Christians

 

[Renee]

So you figure Obama will be disgraced by future historians for ending Syrian gassings without firing a shot?

Maybe in history books written by GOP propagandists.

;-)

Yes, along with getting bin laden. What a shame. He should have bought him a condo in Florida.

 

[Jen]

Pathological is when it is all consuming o the point of being abnormal. Here Obama has gotten gas out of the hands of Syria without one person being killed and yet you see it as a disgrace. Don't talk about compassion.....all you so is show contempt for those in need...unless of course they are good Christians

Gas is still in the hands of Syria. And the "deal" was reached at Obama's expense. I would have preferred for Obama to come out looking like the hero instead of Putin. But things are rarely tied up neatly in life. So if, at any time in the foreseeable future, what has happened here stops the gassing of Syrians and stops the deaths in Syria, it will be an all's well that ends well.

 

[Renee]

Gas is still in the hands of Syria. And the "deal" was reached at Obama's expense. I would have preferred for Obama to come out looking like the hero instead of Putin. But things are rarely tied up neatly in life. So if, at any time in the foreseeable future, what has happened here stops the gassing of Syrians and stops the deaths in Syria, it will be an all's well that ends well.

So pathological is your hate.....if all ends up well, it will have nothing to do with obamas threat. Putin and Assad would have made the same compromises. Right?
If the gas is still in the hands of Assad when there is an inspection, then there is a different tactic...the UN will be part of it because Russia agreed to get on board...
Why do you care if Putin looks good? Who pulled the strings?

 

[middleview]

If you are on the left or the right or just in the middle somewhere there is little doubt that concerning the handling of the crisis in Syria Obama has become an embarrassment to our nation. Leading from behind has proven yet another failure for Obama. I was thinking trying to be objective and when I look at the Obama legacy and his overall performance as our commander in chief it struck me that his handling of Syria is a mirror image of his presidency. Mr. President you cannot have it both ways and your never ending blame game and your apologetic speaking tours have weakened America. Your fundamental change is not the kind of change most of us anticipated nor desired. Now as Obama literally sits on the side lines we are to take direction from a Russian Thug a former KGB agent and a country who assists Iran as well as Syria. This is crazy stuff. The problem is not what to do in Syria the real problem is credibility if it be Putin or Assad but the real credibility loss lies in Obama. The Congress as well as the American electorate has lost confidence and trust in our president. Are we to be dictated to by international criminals are we to trust and arm the very folks who are trying to kill all of us. This is insane. Obama needs to lead, he needs to stand up to any faction that threatens our national security. The use and spread of chemical as well as nuclear weapons is that threat. Giving North Korea, Iran. or Syria the green light is not in our best interest.

1. We are on the verge of liquidating Syria's WMD arsenal. One of the largest in the world. Reagan,Bush 41, Clinton and Bush 43 all failed to do that. You are complaining that Putin is cooperating in making this happen, yet Bush 43 was the one who said he could do business with Putin....but failed.
2. Bush threatened Iraq and ended up having to invade to get rid of a non-existant WMD arsenal. Obama threatened Syria and will succeed without having to fire one bullet or drop one bomb.

 

[middleview]

Obama, along with those who voted for him (especially twice) should be mortified at what he's managed to do. Even Jimmy Carter looks almost stellar next to Obama. I'm mortified at his performance and I knew better than to vote for him. I really don't even want to talk about how bad he is. But you have spelled it out perfectly here.

Were you mortified at what Bush did?

 

[Jen]

Were you mortified at what Bush did?

I was mortified at a lot of things that Bush did and I stated that at the time. I disagreed with taking Saddam Hussein down and put that on the same level as us allowing Mubarak and Gadhafi to be deposed. As bad as those three were, we were able to contain them and keep worse things from being there (as we are now seeing in all three places).

 

[UnleashedInTheEast]

Renee I am with you on this one!

Obama negotiated to keep us out of another useless war, and the haters are so angry they have to turn that hate on some one. Yes,they are pathological haters. There is no other word for it.

It must be awful to be so full of hate. I do not like GW Bush,but he has to answer for what he did. I do not hate him.

So how should Obama answer for killing hundreds of innocent civilians?

 

[UnleashedInTheEast]

1. We are on the verge of liquidating Syria's WMD arsenal. One of the largest in the world. Reagan,Bush 41, Clinton and Bush 43 all failed to do that. You are complaining that Putin is cooperating in making this happen, yet Bush 43 was the one who said he could do business with Putin....but failed.
2. Bush threatened Iraq and ended up having to invade to get rid of a non-existant WMD arsenal. Obama threatened Syria and will succeed without having to fire one bullet or drop one bomb.

Point 1: you have no idea if that is true.

 

[middleview]

Point 1: you have no idea if that is true.

and you have no idea if it isn't. It hasn't happened yet. Duh.