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Yuri Zhivago

Yuri Zhivago

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“There is nobody in this country who got rich on their own. Nobody. You built a factory out there - good for you. But I want to be clear. You moved your goods to market on roads the rest of us paid for. You hired workers the rest of us paid to educate. You were safe in your factory because of police forces and fire forces that the rest of us paid for. You didn't have to worry that marauding bands would come and seize everything at your factory... Now look. You built a factory and it turned into something terrific or a great idea - God bless! Keep a hunk of it. But part of the underlying social contract is you take a hunk of that and pay forward for the next kid who comes along.”
― Elizabeth Warren
Yes, Obama mangled it a little bit. But RW extremists, brain raped retards like rabid raccoons who found a piss from a local cat and think this is a water fountain are frothing stinkingly all day...
 
Yuri Zhivago said:
“There is nobody in this country who got rich on their own. Nobody. You built a factory out there - good for you. But I want to be clear. You moved your goods to market on roads the rest of us paid for. You hired workers the rest of us paid to educate. You were safe in your factory because of police forces and fire forces that the rest of us paid for. You didn't have to worry that marauding bands would come and seize everything at your factory... Now look. You built a factory and it turned into something terrific or a great idea - God bless! Keep a hunk of it. But part of the underlying social contract is you take a hunk of that and pay forward for the next kid who comes along.”
― Elizabeth Warren
Yes, Obama mangled it a little bit. But RW extremists, brain raped retards like rabid raccoons who found a piss from a local cat and think this is a water fountain are frothing stinkingly all day...
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[h=2]No Man Is An Island[/h] No man is an island,
Entire of itself.
Each is a piece of the continent,
A part of the main.
If a clod be washed away by the sea,
Europe is the less.
As well as if a promontory were.
As well as if a manor of thine own
Or of thine friend's were.
Each man's death diminishes me,
For I am involved in mankind.
Therefore, send not to know
For whom the bell tolls,
It tolls for thee.




John Donne


Although...perhaps we could use fewer clods...
 
Why is the scope limited to just business owners? Aren't we each benefitting from public works..no matter the income level or degree of success?
 
PhilFish said:
Why is the scope limited to just business owners? Aren't we each benefitting from public works..no matter the income level or degree of success?
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yes we all are, 100% agree with you. But the matter, Warren and Obama were discussing, the whining of some victims of RW extremist , regarding taxes on wealthy
 
Exactly..extremists...so some minutia...who should be ignored. Good to see we agree they are not indicative of the whole. Meanwhile..we each owe 'infrastructure' for the ease and service we each enjoy. Arguably we can and should pay our share of tax in kind. Therefore I find it confounding that the dialogue seems limited in scope... sure the successful should pay more...but then..so should we all..
 
PhilFish said:
Exactly..extremists...so some minutia...who should be ignored. Good to see we agree they are not indicative of the whole. Meanwhile..we each owe 'infrastructure' for the ease and service we each enjoy. Arguably we can and should pay our share of tax in kind. Therefore I find it confounding that the dialogue seems limited in scope... sure the successful should pay more...but then..so should we all..
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in modern GOP, extremism is not minutia. The whole party went over the cliff.
you are a smart man, how you do not see it?
 
Indeed. When we both have an accord that this affliction of extremism spans both parties..then we'll be making progress. You're not too shabby yourself...yet the obvious seems to escape you, too...
 
PhilFish said:
Indeed. When we both have an accord that this affliction of extremism spans both parties..then we'll be making progress. You're not too shabby yourself...yet the obvious seems to escape you, too...
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well, for me it is not obvious . Moderate Presidency, moderate with a few lefties , dem congress ( some guy from Vermont and may be a few more) there is no equivalency, none....not even close. C'mon where is an extremism on Democratic party side.
Ed Randell? Clinton? Obama? Is Biden extremist?
open your eyes.
 
PhilFish said:
Why is the scope limited to just business owners? Aren't we each benefitting from public works..no matter the income level or degree of success?
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The scope is only limited in the Fox News version of the story that runs a couple of seconds of Obama's speech and then proceeds to editorialize. We are all fortunate to have our public infrastructure. "Public" shouldn't be considered a dirty word. Too many Americans have lost their sense of community. It's not just business owners.
 
well, for the one... anybody can turn off fox news. for the two...yeah...many have lost that sense... but then again...no ones railing on the many...just the few (business owners..)

fact is, a middle class with diminished remunerations cant carry the load... doesnt make the business owner, the rich, the 1%, etc..the bad guy.
 
Translation: "You didn't do it - we did - and you owe us!" Typical "community organizer" (read: communist) mindset...
 
Yuri Zhivago said:
well, for me it is not obvious . Moderate Presidency, moderate with a few lefties , dem congress ( some guy from Vermont and may be a few more) there is no equivalency, none....not even close. C'mon where is an extremism on Democratic party side.
Ed Randell? Clinton? Obama? Is Biden extremist?
open your eyes.
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Anybody who is pushing this anti-capitalist uber regulatory big government wealth redistributionist agenda is a leftist extremist. Either a communist or a fellow traveler.
 
Lukey said:
Anybody who is pushing this anti-capitalist uber regulatory big government wealth redistributionist agenda is a leftist extremist. Either a communist or a fellow traveler.
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Go play with NC , I am just sad , what they did to you.

Obama administration consisted of most Clinton guys is moderate centrist as one can ever be.
But mentally disturbed by Pravda and sister organization FOX people deserve our pity .
 
Ok, we get it -- society serves all of us. There are, however, different members in society. There are those who contribute to society, by getting jobs or building businesses that employ other people, paying taxes and attempting to contribute to, rather than be a burden on, society. There are those who do none of these things, and receive the benefits of society without any concomitant contribution to that society.

Obama and Warren seem to think that if you worked hard, developed something, built a factory, created a product and thereby enhanced people's lives, your creation is a product of the society and not your own. "Keep a hunk of it?" Who gets to decide how big a hunk you get to keep, and how much is the debt you owe to society?

Boiled down, this is still the liberal view that we should tax the rich to feed the poor, because the poor are victims of society, instead of its primary beneficiaries.
 
Yuri Zhivago said:
Go play with NC , I am just sad , what they did to you.

Obama administration consisted of most Clinton guys is moderate centrist as one can ever be.
But mentally disturbed by Pravda and sister organization FOX people deserve our pity .
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I heard a call from a Polish woman to Sean Hannity yesterday and she said this kind of rhetoric praising the state is EXACTLY what she remembers hearing when she was growing up under the communist regime that ran Poland pre-1970 (when she emigrated). Who am I going to believe - this woman who makes a very logical statement or you who denies the obvious? Take a guess...
 
Lukey said:
I heard a call from a Polish woman to Sean Hannity yesterday and she said this kind of rhetoric praising the state is EXACTLY what she remembers hearing when she was growing up under the communist regime that ran Poland pre-1970 (when she emigrated). Who am I going to believe - this woman who makes a very logical statement or you who denies the obvious? Take a guess...
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lol...a caller to Hannity...

No more need be said.
 
Craig said:
lol...a caller to Hannity...

No more need be said.
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Exactly why should Sasha (an anonymous poster on the internet) possess more credibility that her? She sounded credible to me. This IS communism Obama is pushing. Just because it sounds good to the left doesn't magically translate it into the philosophy of Adam Smith...
 
Lukey said:
Exactly why should Sasha (an anonymous poster on the internet) possess more credibility that her? She sounded credible to me. This IS communism Obama is pushing. Just because it sounds good to the left doesn't magically translate it into the philosophy of Adam Smith...
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Are you serious? You truly are attempting to sell me on a Hannity caller? Stop.
 
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