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Flynn call transcript released...no bombshell for Dems...

Dawg

President
Supporting Member
That doesn't excuse lying.
"I did not have sexual relations with that woman"

"If you like your doctor"

Glad you feel as you do of lying.

Now lets talk about the COUP, this explains it with Flynn well:

 

Zam-Zam

Senator
In fact, JACK SHIT about this call was worthy of investigation.


The call starts off with the two men discussing the Middle East.

Kislyak tells Flynn that Russia “wanted to convey to” him and then-President-Elect Trump that they had “significant reservations about the idea of adopting new principles for the Middle East that our American colleagues are pushing for.” Kislyak says that Russia is “not going to support it.”

Flynn says: “Okay.”

Kislyak goes on to say that “U.S. policy might, uh, be changing or not, we want to understand what is going to be your policy when and if we are to implement things that we are working on.”

Kislyak then requests that Russian President Vladimir Putin and Trump have a video meeting on a “secure video line,” so that Putin can “congratulate” Trump and “discuss a small number, briefly, of issues that are on his agenda,” for Jan. 21, 2017.

Flynn says: “OK,” before telling Kislyak: .“What I would ask you guys to do — and make sure you, make sure that you convey this, okay? Do not, do not uh, allow this administration to box us in right now, okay?”


Flynn is referring to the Obama administration’s move to sanction Russia and expel dozens of Russian diplomats due to what he calls “cyber stuff,” and urges Kislyak not to escalate further.

“What I would ask Russia to do is to not—is—is—if anything—because I know you have to have some sort of action—to, to only make it reciprocal,” Flynn said. “Make it reciprocal. Don’t-don’t make it-don’t go any further than you have to. Because I don’t want us to get into something that has to escalate, on a, you know, on a tit for tat. You follow me ambassador?”

Kislyak says: “I understand what you’re saying, but you know, you might appreciate the sentiments that are raging now in Moscow.”

Flynn says he does “appreciate it, but I really don’t want us to get into a situation where we’re going, you know, where we do this and then you do something bigger, and then you know, everybody’s got to go back and forth and everybody’s got to be the tough guy here, you know?”

Flynn adds: “We don’t need to, we don’t need that right now, we need to—we need cool heads to prevail, and uh, and we need to be very steady about what we’re going to do because we have absolutely a common uh, threat, in the Middle East right now.”

Kislyak says he agrees, and Flynn says: “We have to eliminate this common threat.”

Kislyak goes on to discuss sanctions, saying that “one of the problems among the measures that have been announced today is that now FSB and GRU are sanctions, are sanctioned, and I ask myself, uh, does it mean that the United States isn't willing to work on terrorist threats?”


Flynn dismisses the comments, by saying: “Yeah, yeah ... yep ... yeah.” He then urges Kislyak: “If you have to do something, do something on a reciprocal basis, meaning you know, on sort of an even basis. Then that, then that is a good message and we’ll understand that message.

“And then, we know that we’re not going to escalate this thing, where we, where because if we put out--if we send out 30 guys and you send out 60, you know, or you shut down every Embassy, I mean we have to get this to a--let's keep this at a level that uh, is even-keeled, okay? And then what we can do is, when we come in, we can then have a better conversation about where we're gonna go uh, regarding, uh, regarding our relationship.”

Flynn added: “And also, basically we have to take these, these enemies on that we have. And we definitely have a common enemy. You have a problem with it, we have a problem with it in this country, and we definitely have a problem with it in the Middle East.”

Later in the call, Flynn tells Kislyak to “remember ... Ambassador, you're not talking to a diplomat, you're talking to a soldier, so l'm a very practical guy, and it's about solutions. It's about very practical solutions that we're - that we need to come up with here.”

He added: “And we have to stop talking past each other on - and so that means that we have to understand exactly what it is that we want to try to achieve, okay?"

Kislyak replies by saying he agrees "fully."
Rather embarrassing moment for Schiff and his minions, I should think.

Oops.
 

Jack4freedom

Governor
Okay Bot, it's now obvious you never had children, or were bankrupted by a corrupted government from top to bottom.

While I would recommend you see a shrink probably best you reach out to your progammer for an update.
The FBI routinely uses the tactic of threatening to prosecute family members to get guilty pleas from defendants. Scumbag right wing US Attorney Mary Beth Buchanan from Pittsburgh did exactly that in the case that sent Tommy Chong to prison a few years back. Right wing scumbags Jon Ashcroft and Gilberto (torture boy) Gonzalez both signed onto that disgusting bit of police work. THAT CASE was a total set up and the FBI, DEA and other US law enforcement agencies use these tactics against our citizens everyday. Now all of a sudden when this happens to a guy who is Trump’s buddy, the AG steps in and throws out the case.
 

Jack4freedom

Governor
The left are a bunch of hypocrites. If Hillary had won and her NSA had talked to Kislyak before the inauguration and someone suggested that he/she had violated the Logan Act, lefties like him would be outraged by the idea that a 200 year old law that no one has been charged under since before the Civil War would be used to suggest that Hillary's NSA had committed a "crime" by doing the exact same thing Flynn did. We know it, he knows it, everybody knows it. If it weren't for double standards, they'd have no standards at all.
If Hillary had won and any of her people were found to do what Flynn did. Devon Nunez, Trey Gowdy and the whole GOP Congress and Senate would still be holding hearings today trying to get her tossed out of office just like they did for 2 1/2 terms against her husband when he was president. Suggesting that only “the left” engages in partisan political tactics is laughable. There is no double standards champ. Just tit for tat and it’s been going on for decades. Get a grip.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
I keep directing you to what's on file and is available to the public.

You have what your TV told you and some sad now-debunked talking points from 2017 and the like.
Did Flynn talk to Kislyak about delaying a UN vote that was supported by the government of the United States? Yes or no.

Was Flynn authorized to negotiate with a foreign government on behalf of the United States? Yes or no.

Did Flynn lie to the FBI about his conversation with Kislyak? Yes or no.

Did Flynn lie on his FARA application? Yes or no.

Simple questions which only require a yes or no answer...quit dancing around with bullshit answers like "but he didn't think it was any of their business" or "Logan is an old law and nobody ever went to jail for a violation"....
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
"I did not have sexual relations with that woman"

"If you like your doctor"

Glad you feel as you do of lying.

Now lets talk about the COUP, this explains it with Flynn well:

Do you know of anyone who lost their doctor?
Clinton lied about having sex with Lewinsky. Trump is still lying about his affairs with porn stars and hookers and paying them to be quiet.

What coup? Look up the definition. The impeachment of Trump was no more an attempted coup than the impeachment of Clinton.
 
Did Flynn talk to Kislyak about delaying a UN vote that was supported by the government of the United States? Yes or no.

Was Flynn authorized to negotiate with a foreign government on behalf of the United States? Yes or no.

Did Flynn lie to the FBI about his conversation with Kislyak? Yes or no.

Did Flynn lie on his FARA application? Yes or no.

Simple questions which only require a yes or no answer...quit dancing around with bullshit answers like "but he didn't think it was any of their business" or "Logan is an old law and nobody ever went to jail for a violation"....
You have me confused with someone else but I will answer anyway.

He was not charged with any of that bullshit.

The FBI was CLOSING THE INVESTIGATION into Flynn in early 2017 until Strozk showed up and proceeded to set him up. You can ask all the strawman YES or NO questions you like, it will never get you around this fact.

Your nonsensical defense of the Obama DOJ in this whole sordid matter, from Flynn, dossier to FISA is incoherent at best, at worst you are lying for the Obama Administration to cover up how [Unwelcome language removed] corrupt they were.

The Logan Act is a law widely considered to be unconstitutional, which is why nobody has been charged with it since 1852. It would not stick to anyone. The very idea that you want Flynn charged with it as he was coming in as the President-elects National Security Advisor for taking or making calls with ambassadors is the dumbest [Unwelcome language removed] thing I ever heard. NO CRIMES committed on those phone calls.

Look below this post for more cry baby bullshit.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
You have me confused with someone else but I will answer anyway.

He was not charged with any of that bullshit.

The FBI was CLOSING THE INVESTIGATION into Flynn in early 2017 until Strozk showed up and proceeded to set him up. You can ask all the strawman YES or NO questions you like, it will never get you around this fact.

Your nonsensical defense of the Obama DOJ in this whole sordid matter, from Flynn, dossier to FISA is incoherent at best, at worst you are lying for the Obama Administration to cover up how [Unwelcome language removed] corrupt they were.

The Logan Act is a law widely considered to be unconstitutional, which is why nobody has been charged with it since 1852. It would not stick to anyone. The very idea that you want Flynn charged with it as he was coming in as the President-elects National Security Advisor for taking or making calls with ambassadors is the dumbest [Unwelcome language removed] thing I ever heard. NO CRIMES committed on those phone calls.

Look below this post for more cry baby bullshit.
I knew you couldn't answer with out a dance
 
Do you know of anyone who lost their doctor?
Clinton lied about having sex with Lewinsky. Trump is still lying about his affairs with porn stars and hookers and paying them to be quiet.

What coup? Look up the definition. The impeachment of Trump was no more an attempted coup than the impeachment of Clinton.
Impeachment articles for Clinton involved Obstruction of Justice and witness tampering...

Trumps? Not one actual crime in his impeachment articles, that bedwetting sycophant Adam Schiff just wanted him out of office. Why? He had the audacity to win an election and began exposing how f-ing corrupt the other party is.

Coup? The entire Russian Collusion narrative foisted on the country by the Obama Administration, the Clinton Campaign, and the DNC.

F-cking dirtbags one and all.
 
Look below this post for more cry baby bullshit.
Right on schedule:

I knew you couldn't answer with out a dance
Given that you are up to your kneck in sad debunked talking points and are just plain lying, I can see how anyone giving the facts, pointing you repeatedly to the exculpatory evidence that is public, might seem like a dance. Being sane and dealing with reality I would have no idea.......
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Right on schedule:



Given that you are up to your kneck in sad debunked talking points and are just plain lying, I can see how anyone giving the facts, pointing you repeatedly to the exculpatory evidence that is public, might seem like a dance. Being sane and dealing with reality I would have no idea.......
a bunch of yes or no questions...and you couldn't avoid essay answers because you'd have to admit the facts.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Impeachment articles for Clinton involved Obstruction of Justice and witness tampering...

Trumps? Not one actual crime in his impeachment articles, that bedwetting sycophant Adam Schiff just wanted him out of office. Why? He had the audacity to win an election and began exposing how f-ing corrupt the other party is.

Coup? The entire Russian Collusion narrative foisted on the country by the Obama Administration, the Clinton Campaign, and the DNC.

F-cking dirtbags one and all.
Impeachment of Trump included Obstruction of Justice and abuse of power.
His abuse of power was in ordering the OMB to hold a congressional appropriation without notifying congress...as is required by law.

If you don't think ordering executive branch federal employees to ignore congressional subpoenas is not obstruction
...what is? You still think Trump wasn't trying to get Ukraine to announce an investigation into Biden to influence the election....

Since Pence would have become president, as proscribed by law....and the process was entirely legal. Calling it a coup is just one very good example of how inaccurate your talking points are.

The evidence at the outset of Crossfire was circumstantial...but it was not false. Carter Page did meet with the Deputy Prime minister and then lied about it. Papadopolous did tell Downer the Russians had dirt on Hillary. Months later Downer did report that conversation, after dirt was leaked by Assange. What did either the DNC or the Clinton campaign have to do with any of that?
 
Impeachment of Trump included Obstruction of Justice and abuse of power.
His abuse of power was in ordering the OMB to hold a congressional appropriation without notifying congress...as is required by law.

If you don't think ordering executive branch federal employees to ignore congressional subpoenas is not obstruction
...what is? You still think Trump wasn't trying to get Ukraine to announce an investigation into Biden to influence the election....

Since Pence would have become president, as proscribed by law....and the process was entirely legal. Calling it a coup is just one very good example of how inaccurate your talking points are.

The evidence at the outset of Crossfire was circumstantial...but it was not false. Carter Page did meet with the Deputy Prime minister and then lied about it. Papadopolous did tell Downer the Russians had dirt on Hillary. Months later Downer did report that conversation, after dirt was leaked by Assange. What did either the DNC or the Clinton campaign have to do with any of that?

That's hysterical.

Carter Page lied to who? When? About what? Why was he never charged?

Papadopolous interview with the FBI contradicts all of that, I expect him to be exonerated as well.
 
a bunch of yes or no questions...and you couldn't avoid essay answers because you'd have to admit the facts.
A bunch of shit is actually more like it. Your yes or no questions are based on failed talking points and debunked information. The evidence on file is public, it will be painful for you but you should read it, or keep making a fool of yourself.

I bet on the latter.
 
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