gee, whatta shocker

[Mytzlplk]

most of us reality-based people didn't need the details to know this, but it's always nice to have proof that the reality-denying rightwingnuts can deny.

I'm still trying to think of something as a matter of fact, like Iraq wmds, that they've gotten right in the last decade and more.

Should those that are chronically and consistently getting things wrong be listened to at all, much less followed off the rightwing cliff? I think not.

I chalk this up to just another example of the rightwingers thinking that at worst, the guilt is equally shared, despite as in most cases, it's something they have the lion's share of if not exclusive guilt for, like hate speech, etc.

How many times have you heard or read about all of those mythical and unseen/unfound "extreme lefties", eh? It's a rightewingnut creation, like the "liberal media" myth.

"c" y'all

The graph shows that the Democrats have barely edged towards the left over the last 30 years, while both moderate and partisan House Republicans have veered way off to the extreme right. For instance, the partisan Republican (the “90% Republican”) in 2011 is hovering near the absolute threshold of the radical right. In comparison, the partisan Democrat (the “90% Democrat”) is far from his/her ideological extreme, having only made a negligible move to the left in the last 30 years. Even more critical is that a moderate Republican in 2011 (the “10% Republican”) is not really moderate anymore, having moved so far to the right that he/she is nearly as factional as the Democrat’s partisan member.

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2...sponsible-for-hyper-polarization-of-congress/

 

[gabriel]

and they are rapidly edging
themselves out of any chance to retain power. the world is sick of radicals and their screaming.

 

[Mytzlplk]

yep, that's been in progress for a number of years imo gabe

 

[middleview]

While we engage in debate related to left right beliefs the larger problem really is money in elections. At some point the real debate has to be legislation that overrides Citizens United. The banks and brokerages controlled legislation that regulated them and the result was the 2006/2007 meltdown. They have taken trillions in equity out of the global economy. Millions of people out of work and out of their homes. The people at the top of those companies have done well....and will continue to loot the treasury until their influence is reduced to one man and one vote....just like yours and mine. Until that happens neither party should be trusted.

 

[Mytzlplk]

I agree completely -- and have made the identical argument amidst many a distraction, albeit involving missing little blonde girls, etc.

I don't trust either party, I just vote dem because they are less corrupted

I've been posting about the faux duopoly in DC for the last decade on boards like this

 

[888888]

I would have to agree, I don't hear lefties want to go far left and are more inclined to be a little left and a little right in their over all makeup.
Where people I know who are republicans are mostly way right in their beliefs, and seldom come close to the middle on any understanging of life they spew out of their mouths. They are on a scale of 0 to 10 with 1 being far left and 10 being far right very close to 8/10 for the right's views and a 3/5 being a democrat on their views.

 

[middleview]

One thing I do believe is that we have a better chance with the dems than we do the RNC. The republicans got Citizens United because they have the Supreme Court.....that is the real prize in the next election....

 

[Mytzlplk]

there is as we know, a negligible number of those on the left that even come close to the "rightness" of the modern repub

they collectively have one foot left on the ideological spectrum cliff

 

[Mytzlplk]

that's why despite all my complaints and the disappointments that prompted them from BHO, I'll likely vote for him again anyway.

the SCOTUS picks have always been the primary consideration to me. It's the most important thing imo, and especially given that a historical graph of the courts would show a similar result too -- rightward movement..

 

[888888]

What really gets me is business people who aren't much better off than myself that I know, just can't do anything but hate democrats, but when I ask them the answer I get is what you would hear from big corp's and very rich people on the right. When I ask them how anything that is being done now affects them they can't point to anything. But they have been told for so long that republicans are looking out for them and the evil democrats are trying to hurt them they just believe it.

I think they all want to believe that someday if they believe like they do they will somehow be part of that group at the top is doing so well, but complain so much about how hard it is for them. I said to a few of them what has the republicans done for you or proposed to do for you that is going to help you as a businessman. They can't come up with anything.

 

[888888]

that's why despite all my complaints and the disappointments that prompted them from BHO, I'll likely vote for him again anyway.

the SCOTUS picks have always been the primary consideration to me. It's the most important thing imo, and especially given that a historical graph of the courts would show a similar result too -- rightward movement..

I agree, it would be shortly before we would have a board of religion as a cabinet position and this country as a democracy will soon be gone.

 

[Days]

30 years ago, I used to lean to the right, now I am getting labeled liberal by people who used to stand exactly in my shoes.

I can't figure out if I'm a lib or a conservative, and frankly not sure I want to.

 

[Mytzlplk]

that's one of many reasons why 8s, they are so cult-like in their mindset.

it's also one of the main reasons why "debate" with them is futile more often than not

have a good one -- gotta scoot soon