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How many Bush bills has Obama repealed?

Your first link says this:

While raising taxes may increase revenue in the short run, over the longer term higher tax rates leads to lower economic growth. As stated, if more dollars are extracted through taxes, there is less available for consumers/corporations to utilize.

Except Corporations which didn't as I recall have their taxes raised. Have had record profits which they were not reinvesting in this country. And the tax increases were on people who by and large could already spend all they wanted whether or not there were of a few points in tax increase.

Also the article says: "The economy is not growing strongly enough to offset the drag caused by fiscal austerity."

Which if you recall all came about because the GOtParty held the debt ceiling hostage and force this austerity on the country.

The other two are guesses that could just as well go in the other direction next quarter.

I don't care about the opinions of the writers. They are as clueless as you progressives about how the economy works.

The facts in those articles are that the government has increased the share of the economy that it extracts in taxes and the result has been a stagnation of economic activity, just as I have always maintained it would.
 
People can be tried in absentia, and that would overcome your concerns.

Yes, it would. But he didn't do that, did he? Your "constitutional scholar" wipes ass with the constitution regularly. The only reason he studied the constitution was to figure out how to subvert it.
 
1.The President asks congress to do his bidding.. What Bush bills has he asked congress to repeal?

2. Any bills passed by congress after January 2

3. That would depend which Republican. Who are you talking about?

The republicans set records for filibustering bills supported by Obama.
The democrats did pass bills which changed Gramm-Leach-Bliley and other republican bills. It was called Dodd-Frank.

1. Much of the deficit was due to a decrease in revenue, due to the recession.
2. Once Obama was sworn in a lot of money was spent to keep the recession from getting worse.

How would you have decreased the debt? I'd love to know.
 
Not when they are US citizens with Constitutional rights. I know you guys like to wipe your asses with it, but some of us still think it's a pretty important document.

Are you saying we should have allowed Awlaki to continue to plot to kill Americans until we could figure our a way to capture him?

Did we try any of the American citizens who joined the German army in WWII in absentia?

Your argument has nothing at all to do with the constitution. In fact joining a military force engaged in operations against the US pretty much costs you your citizenship. That is in the US Civil Code. Awlaki could have gone to any US embassy or consulate to protest....he knew for months that he was on the target list. The ACLU and his parents filed suit against the US government to prevent his death. The court ruled against them.

In fact legal experts from both the Obama and Bush administrations had this to say:

"As a general matter, it would be entirely lawful for the United States to target high-level leaders of enemy forces, regardless of their nationality, who are plotting to kill Americans both under the authority provided by Congress in its use of military force in the armed conflict with al-Qaida, the Taliban, and associated forces as well as established international law that recognizes our right of self-defense."

Ken Anderson, who teaches at American University's Washington College of Law and follows U.S. policy on drones, says the analysis starts with whether Awlaki amounted to a lawful target — U.S. citizen or not.

"The U.S has always seen somebody who is planning attacks against the United States as a lawful target," Anderson says.
Either because Awlaki presented an imminent threat to American citizens or because he had become an enemy fighting alongside al-Qaida in the Arabian Peninsula, Anderson says, he could be seen as a lawful target.
 
Are you saying we should have allowed Awlaki to continue to plot to kill Americans until we could figure our a way to capture him?

Did we try any of the American citizens who joined the German army in WWII in absentia?

Your argument has nothing at all to do with the constitution. In fact joining a military force engaged in operations against the US pretty much costs you your citizenship. That is in the US Civil Code. Awlaki could have gone to any US embassy or consulate to protest....he knew for months that he was on the target list. The ACLU and his parents filed suit against the US government to prevent his death. The court ruled against them.

In fact legal experts from both the Obama and Bush administrations had this to say:

"As a general matter, it would be entirely lawful for the United States to target high-level leaders of enemy forces, regardless of their nationality, who are plotting to kill Americans both under the authority provided by Congress in its use of military force in the armed conflict with al-Qaida, the Taliban, and associated forces as well as established international law that recognizes our right of self-defense."

Ken Anderson, who teaches at American University's Washington College of Law and follows U.S. policy on drones, says the analysis starts with whether Awlaki amounted to a lawful target — U.S. citizen or not.

"The U.S has always seen somebody who is planning attacks against the United States as a lawful target," Anderson says.
Either because Awlaki presented an imminent threat to American citizens or because he had become an enemy fighting alongside al-Qaida in the Arabian Peninsula, Anderson says, he could be seen as a lawful target.

Then go to court and present the case for stripping him of his citizenship first - which Obama didn't bother to do. There's a reason the framers put in these processes, and if Nixon had drones how would you have thought about the potential for abuse of the executive privilege inherent in this assassination protocol? You're only for it because Obama's your guy and you have to defend everything he does or admit you were a fool for voting for him.

Not to mention that three of the four weren't even targets - just collateral damage. This is war mongering of the worst kind and it stinks!
 
You guys need to give that shit a rest - it's not like the Obama recovery is anything to crow about. Weakest recovery ever!

It is about the same as Reagan's, measured by unemployment rates. Given that Reagan's stimulus tripled the national debt....comparitavely speaking, Obama has done pretty well.

SO while some of you righty tighties seem to think the last 8 years have been torture....that only works if you have a pretty short memory.
 
Then go to court and present the case for stripping him of his citizenship first - which Obama didn't bother to do. There's a reason the framers put in these processes, and if Nixon had drones how would you have thought about the potential for abuse of the executive privilege inherent in this assassination protocol? You're only for it because Obama's your guy and you have to defend everything he does or admit you were a fool for voting for him.

Not to mention that three of the four weren't even targets - just collateral damage. This is war mongering of the worst kind and it stinks!

That isn't required....where did you get your license to practice law?

The fact is that Awlaki was a combatant. That is no more debatable than the Americans who joined the Wehrmacht....join up with the enemy you may get killed. Samir Kahn was also a high ranking Al Qaeda member...equivalent to killing Herman Goebbels.

Awlaki had been subject to due process. He'd been added to the list of international terrorists by the UN. He'd had his assets seized by Canada and the US. He was banned from travel to the UK. He'd been found guilty of murder by a Yemeni court and was ordered captured dead or alive.

Awlaki's son was killed because he was in an SUV with 6 Al Qaeda fighters and
Ibrahim al-Banna. He should have taken a bus.

By definition, every one we kill is an extra judicial killing. Whether they are US citizens or not. When were you thinking we should start the process of trials for every Al Qaeda, Isil, Taliban or other terrorist before we can kill them?
 
It is about the same as Reagan's, measured by unemployment rates. Given that Reagan's stimulus tripled the national debt....comparitavely speaking, Obama has done pretty well.

SO while some of you righty tighties seem to think the last 8 years have been torture....that only works if you have a pretty short memory.

8 trillion vs 500 million and you think Obama's has done well more debt than all presidents added up...Wow what's wrong with you?
 
8 trillion vs 500 million and you think Obama's has done well more debt than all presidents added up...Wow what's wrong with you?

The national debt was $12 trillion when Obama took office.
1. How in hell has the debt under Obama risen more than all presidents combined? Use your head.
2. Reagan took office and the national debt was $900 billion. He added $2 trillion. I don't know where your $500 million number comes from. By the time Clinton took office the debt was $4 trillion. That was in 1990 dollars.

Reagan and H.W. Bush grew debt from 31% of GDP to 64% of GDP.....When "W" took over the debt to gdp ratio was 56%....it was 83% when he turned things over to Obama. It is now at 101%.

It is absolutely a mess, but don't think for a minute that republicans had no part in making it so.
 
You mean when democrats controlled the House and Senate?...2007 -2009?

"Control"? Look up filibusters. The democrats had a majority, but did not have control.

The recesion officially began after two quarters of negative growth. That means that if it officially began in december the decline began in August or so. Since the dems took their seats in January...you tell me, what legislation did they pass between January and August that contributed to the recession?

I've already had this conversation with you. The policies and legislation from the republicans that caused the decline to pick up speed are well documented. Research the foreclosure rates from 2001 to 2009. The worst increases were in 2005 thru 2007.

You expend more effort trying to find a way to blame democrats instead of looking into the readily available facts.
 
Then go to court and present the case for stripping him of his citizenship first - which Obama didn't bother to do. There's a reason the framers put in these processes, and if Nixon had drones how would you have thought about the potential for abuse of the executive privilege inherent in this assassination protocol? You're only for it because Obama's your guy and you have to defend everything he does or admit you were a fool for voting for him.

Not to mention that three of the four weren't even targets - just collateral damage. This is war mongering of the worst kind and it stinks!

Drumcollie thinks you are a winner. So there you have it....your support is coming from the least informed poster on the board.
 
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You guys need to give that shit a rest - it's not like the Obama recovery is anything to crow about. Weakest recovery ever!
Reagan and H.W. Bush grew debt from 31% of GDP to 64% of GDP.....When "W" took over the debt to gdp ratio was 56%....it was 83% when he turned things over to Obama. It is now at 101%.
 
"Control"? Look up filibusters. The democrats had a majority, but did not have control.

The recesion officially began after two quarters of negative growth. That means that if it officially began in december the decline began in August or so. Since the dems took their seats in January...you tell me, what legislation did they pass between January and August that contributed to the recession?

I've already had this conversation with you. The policies and legislation from the republicans that caused the decline to pick up speed are well documented. Research the foreclosure rates from 2001 to 2009. The worst increases were in 2005 thru 2007.

You expend more effort trying to find a way to blame democrats instead of looking into the readily available facts.

2. 2005- 2007 Why did Democrats vote for those bills? And as History has made so clear ..all those bad Bush bills have a democratic voting for it.

1. Who was Senate Majority and Speaker of the House 2007 - 2009
 
Drumcollie thinks you are a winner. So there you have it....your support is coming from the least informed poster on the board.
wow and all you got..is Hillary...wait no other democrats think she is a horrible choice tooo...how long before lefty says...I am not an Obama democrat?
 
wow and all you got..is Hillary...wait no other democrats think she is a horrible choice tooo...how long before lefty says...I am not an Obama democrat?

I'm not a Hillary supporter just because I point out when you guys call her a murderer that you have no evidence. I'm not excited by either the choices on the RNC side nor Hillary.
 
I don't care about the opinions of the writers. They are as clueless as you progressives about how the economy works.

The facts in those articles are that the government has increased the share of the economy that it extracts in taxes and the result has been a stagnation of economic activity, just as I have always maintained it would.

You linked to the opinions not me.
 
2. 2005- 2007 Why did Democrats vote for those bills? And as History has made so clear ..all those bad Bush bills have a democratic voting for it.

1. Who was Senate Majority and Speaker of the House 2007 - 2009

You just sort of ramble on, don't you.....How many democrats voted for Mediare Part D?
There were 7 dems in the house who voted for. 195 who voted no. 19 Repubs voted no.

That was the bill that eliminated any ability for the federal government to negotiate lower prices from drug companies. Democrats then pushed bills four or five times before they fixed that.

That a few democrats voted for it means what to you? Why do you think it matters who was Majority leader or Speaker in 2007? The recession began with republican legislation in 1999 and 2000. Yes there were some democrats who voted for Gramms bills. There were some who voted for the Mortgage downpayment assistance act.

They were republican bills. Who was the speaker of the house in 1999? How about the majority leader?
 
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