Hypocrite???

[MaryAnne]

Joe Scarborough was on this morning calling President Obama a, 'Hypocrite,' for using Drones to cut down on the killings of ground forces!

This is the same blowhard who cheered Us into Iraq! Oh ,of course Joe is now complaining about the war and killing.The whole blanking media would like us to forget how they cheered us into war!

I am sorry, my memory is too good! Joe also was in that crowd,who hounded Clinton for 8 years and now tries to pretend he balanced the budget all by himself. I remember that too! two Government shut downs before Gingrich caved to Clinton!

What fools they think we are!

You can bitch about the use of drones all you want. They are slowing the deaths of our own! That is what I care about!

 

[NightSwimmer]

Joe is an entertainer who (long ago) accidentally became a politician. No one in their right mind would ever mistake him for a statesman.

 

[MaryAnne]

Joe is an entertainer who (long ago) accidentally became a politician. No one in their right mind would ever mistake him for a statesman.

I am not sure why I still flip Joe on once in a while,but I would have missed Whitacre from GM,if I had not flipped on the TV after coming back from the grocery.

He stated every word I have been saying for all these years.Know how many times I have been called a liar? I can only say,PFFFT! )

 

[Jen]

I am fine with the use of the drones. Obama gets a thumbs up.

But it most definitely is hypocritical to say that a little controlled enhanced interrogation where nobody dies is WRONG and TORTURE

while

Thinking the use of drones with it's collateral damage is frequently children and not only kills but permanently maims (or kills) innocent people is just fine.

So being maimed by drone bombing isn't "torture"? Having innocent people killed for being in the wrong place at the wrong time isn't "bad"?

Yes. Huge hypocrisy.

Jen

 

[Cas]

I am fine with the use of the drones. Obama gets a thumbs up.

But it most definitely is hypocritical to say that a little controlled enhanced interrogation where nobody dies is WRONG and TORTURE

while

Thinking the use of drones with it's collateral damage is frequently children and not only kills but permanently maims (or kills) innocent people is just fine.

So being maimed by drone bombing isn't "torture"? Having innocent people killed for being in the wrong place at the wrong time isn't "bad"?

Yes. Huge hypocrisy.

Jen

So you had a question for me yesterday about PJ Cons well this post for sure fits the bill.


Obama has never said what you elude to, nor does he believe what you attribute to be his beliefs.

 

[Jen]

LINK

The Pentagon now operates over 7,500 unmanned drones and have been used to bomb Pakistan, Afghanistan, Yemen, Somalia, and North Africa with horrendous collateral damage and dubious claims of legality.

LINK
This memo (see link) and the actions of President Obama regarding droned (see quote and link above) support what I have said about Obama's drone use. I did not quote Obama. But his beliefs are obvious. I agree with his drone use at this point but I also understand that it is a slippery slope and I am glad that the administration is pursuing a clear ruling on how to use drones. Drones were just coming into existence during the Bush administration so the Obama administration is the first to use them to any extent in war.

I didn't know you spoke for Obama and his beliefs, but I think you need to review your words here. Seems you really don't know what Obama believes after all.

Jen


Cas writes:

Obama has never said what you elude to, nor does he believe what you attribute to be his beliefs.

 

[888888]

Joe is an entertainer who (long ago) accidentally became a politician. No one in their right mind would ever mistake him for a statesman.

The only reason he isn't in congress right now is because a girl who was in his campaign who he was known for hanging around with was found dead. They didn't prove he did it, but he knew his political life was over as I heard about it, unless he wanted to answer questions in the press about the whole relationship.

 

[888888]

Joe is an entertainer who (long ago) accidentally became a politician. No one in their right mind would ever mistake him for a statesman.

He would

 

[NinaS]

I am fine with the use of the drones. Obama gets a thumbs up.

But it most definitely is hypocritical to say that a little controlled enhanced interrogation where nobody dies is WRONG and TORTURE

while

Thinking the use of drones with it's collateral damage is frequently children and not only kills but permanently maims (or kills) innocent people is just fine.

So being maimed by drone bombing isn't "torture"? Having innocent people killed for being in the wrong place at the wrong time isn't "bad"?

Yes. Huge hypocrisy.

Jen

The Geneva Convention says it's TORTURE. I've never been strapped down with water running down my face and throat but those who tried it to prove something says it's torture. Have you ever been unable to breathe? That's torture. And whomever is geting tortured in such a means...it is being done to them deliberately with mallice and for what reason? It is useless. I'd admit to the assassination of JFK to make someone stop pouring water down my throat even though I wasn't even born yet when he died.

 

[Jen]

So snuffing people (and any children who may be nearby) with a drone is preferable.
I see.

The Geneva Convention says it's TORTURE. I've never been strapped down with water running down my face and throat but those who tried it to prove something says it's torture. Have you ever been unable to breathe? That's torture. And whomever is geting tortured in such a means...it is being done to them deliberately with mallice and for what reason? It is useless. I'd admit to the assassination of JFK to make someone stop pouring water down my throat even though I wasn't even born yet when he died.

 

[Cas]

LINK



LINK
This memo (see link) and the actions of President Obama regarding droned (see quote and link above) support what I have said about Obama's drone use. I did not quote Obama. But his beliefs are obvious. I agree with his drone use at this point but I also understand that it is a slippery slope and I am glad that the administration is pursuing a clear ruling on how to use drones. Drones were just coming into existence during the Bush administration so the Obama administration is the first to use them to any extent in war.

I didn't know you spoke for Obama and his beliefs, but I think you need to review your words here. Seems you really don't know what Obama believes after all.

Jen


Cas writes:

Your beliefs are obvious.

And I didn't know you spoke for Obama and his beliefs, but I think you need to review your words here.

Seems you really don't have a clue about what Obama believes after all.

 

[Jen]

I didn't post my beliefs, Dear. I gave you links so that you might see Obama's beliefs. But now that I see there is a slight comprehension issue, I will back off. It's obvious you are a special case and must be handled with kid gloves or else you might copy what I say and pretend it's your thought. I'm out of patience, but I doubt you'll stick around as a Citizen of PJ for very long.
Sayonara.

Your beliefs are obvious.

And I didn't know you spoke for Obama and his beliefs, but I think you need to review your words here.

Seems you really don't have a clue about what Obama believes after all.

 

[Cas]

I didn't post my beliefs, Dear. I gave you links so that you might see Obama's beliefs. But now that I see there is a slight comprehension issue, I will back off. It's obvious you are a special case and must be handled with kid gloves or else you might copy what I say and pretend it's your thought. I'm out of patience, but I doubt you'll stick around as a Citizen of PJ for very long.
Sayonara.

It's obvious you didn't understand the very post I posted in this thread, so I will re-post it in hopes that you may be able to comprehend it dear.


So you had a question for me yesterday about PJ Cons well this post for sure fits the bill.


Obama has never said what you elude to, nor does he believe what you attribute to be his beliefs.

 

[Cotton2226]

amazing... just absolutely amazing how some people make issues out of "NUTTIN!"

 

[JackDallas]

Every Liberal piece of shit in the country and on this board, including the media, who are now taking in oxygen that would better be used by dogs, were screeching like banshees about the very same atrocities when they we being committed by Bush. Now ehen Obama is doing it, you all are making excuses and blessing the drone strikes.

And many Republican hypocrites, including Sean Hannity, are now attacking Obama for it when they were making the same excuses and giving their blessing to it when Bush was in office.
I have not changed my position on this. I will always support any President who kills Muslims.

Joe Scarborough was on this morning calling President Obama a, 'Hypocrite,' for using Drones to cut down on the killings of ground forces!

This is the same blowhard who cheered Us into Iraq! Oh ,of course Joe is now complaining about the war and killing.The whole blanking media would like us to forget how they cheered us into war!

I am sorry, my memory is too good! Joe also was in that crowd,who hounded Clinton for 8 years and now tries to pretend he balanced the budget all by himself. I remember that too! two Government shut downs before Gingrich caved to Clinton!

What fools they think we are!

You can bitch about the use of drones all you want. They are slowing the deaths of our own! That is what I care about!

 

[NinaS]

So snuffing people (and any children who may be nearby) with a drone is preferable.
I see.

I'm not sure who they are "snuffing out" but do you think that "SHOCK AND AWE" didn't kill innocents and all the attacks on the Iraqi cities after that initial attack? There are pictures to PROVE what it did to children and other citizens and for WHAT REASON?? What good did that attack and the whole war in Iraqi do besides kill thousands of innocents and thousands of our boys and girls plus maiming even more? I don't know who they are "targeting" with the drones but I know it was going on...using drones...long before Obama became President. Why is the right so up in arms about it now?

And Jen...remember who FINALLY got Osama bin Laden? It sure wasn't the one who claimed he'd get him. And if and when Obama says it's okay to torture anyone...I certainly won't uphold that decision.

 

[middleview]

I am fine with the use of the drones. Obama gets a thumbs up.

But it most definitely is hypocritical to say that a little controlled enhanced interrogation where nobody dies is WRONG and TORTURE

while

Thinking the use of drones with it's collateral damage is frequently children and not only kills but permanently maims (or kills) innocent people is just fine.

So being maimed by drone bombing isn't "torture"? Having innocent people killed for being in the wrong place at the wrong time isn't "bad"?

Yes. Huge hypocrisy.

Jen

The Geneva convention bans torture of prisoners. If you don't like the convention then elect a president who says he'll ignore it.

Killing enemy combatants is how you win a war. If it were possible to fight a war when the enemy thinks it is ok to go home at night and sleep next to his wife with his children in the next room and not kill those around him, I'd like to know how.....Clearly the enemy thinks that his family will be a shield and he'll be safe if surrounded by children....all while planning the next attack on US troops in an effort to kill someone else's child....

Sorry. We have done an excellent job of minimizing casualties among non-combatants....compare WWII numbers to now. Far higher proportions of civilian casualties then than now.

 

[Jen]

Shock and Awe killed man innocents. I was against it.
So to you that makes the drone strikes okay........in which innocents most likely are also killed?
Odd logic there, Nina.

Personally, I am good with the drone strikes. I think we should take out bad guys with them. So I support Obama's policy with them.
My post (another thread) pointed out the hypocrisy with Liberals screaming when Bush did anything that may have had collateral damage but now are strangely silent as Obama does the same thing.

You have amply proven my point and shown the hypocrisy nicely, so thank you.

I'm not sure who they are "snuffing out" but do you think that "SHOCK AND AWE" didn't kill innocents and all the attacks on the Iraqi cities after that initial attack? There are pictures to PROVE what it did to children and other citizens and for WHAT REASON?? What good did that attack and the whole war in Iraqi do besides kill thousands of innocents and thousands of our boys and girls plus maiming even more? I don't know who they are "targeting" with the drones but I know it was going on...using drones...long before Obama became President. Why is the right so up in arms about it now?

And Jen...remember who FINALLY got Osama bin Laden? It sure wasn't the one who claimed he'd get him. And if and when Obama says it's okay to torture anyone...I certainly won't uphold that decision.

 

[squareshot]

Tomorrow Iran may develop drones, and the day after Russia may decide to use theirs. Be careful what you advocate.

 

[fairsheet]

Tomorrow Iran may develop drones, and the day after Russia may decide to use theirs. Be careful what you advocate.

Funny you should mention that. Your suggestion hints me at some people's fear of a cyber-threat. Fortunately, we have a significant - and perhaps "un-overcomeable" advantage in both these regards, by dint of our being first.

IF say....The Russkis or the Iranians develop drones, our drones will be superior to their drones, and able to shoot them down.