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Imploding from within.. who's next??

PhilFish said:
hollywood... boom.. imploding in scandal.. apparently 'casting couch' shenanigans is 'new'..

nfl...bofff.. imploding on itself, as political posturing sans a compass implodes and caves to the ole' wallet..

politics.. well, that mess is, well, a mess..

hhmm...what other paragon of virtue and political preening will be next..

silicon valley? organic farmers?

dunno... time will tell..
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Well, let's not forget the most salient example of political preening, the colossal implosion of which has completely changed the cultural landscape:

The GOP.

For generations, the GOP preened about being a bastion of decency and decorum compared to the Democratic libertines. They sniffed haughtily at Obama for not wearing a jacket in the Oval Office. They absolutely lost their minds about Clinton allegedly having sexually harassed a woman years before his presidency. They clucked their tongues about all that darn golfing Obama was doing. And they posed as the paragons of upright Christian family values and America's civic traditions.

That all looks pretty hilarious, in retrospect, doesn't it? That was before they picked as their nominee a guy who'd cheated on all three of his wives, who'd been accused of sexual harassment by countless women. It's before they picked as their leader a man who has been accused of rape, under oath, by three separate women (one of whom was his own wive). That was before they picked as their nominee someone who is a personification of the seven deadly sins -- a guy so gluttonous, greedy, prideful, and lustful that he comes across as a heavy-handed caricature in an old morality play. And it's before they were coopted by him into completely trashing our nation's political traditions and standards of decorum an good taste.

I'm not sure that any party has ever had a moral collapse as dramatic and comical as the GOP, and I'm not sure any political movement has crumbled into self-caricature as spectacularly as the conservative movement.
 
Arkady said:
Well, let's not forget the most salient example of political preening, the colossal implosion of which has completely changed the cultural landscape:

The GOP.

For generations, the GOP preened about being a bastion of decency and decorum compared to the Democratic libertines. They sniffed haughtily at Obama for not wearing a jacket in the Oval Office. They absolutely lost their minds about Clinton allegedly having sexually harassed a woman years before his presidency. They clucked their tongues about all that darn golfing Obama was doing. And they posed as the paragons of upright Christian family values and America's civic traditions.

That all looks pretty hilarious, in retrospect, doesn't it? That was before they picked as their nominee a guy who'd cheated on all three of his wives, who'd been accused of sexual harassment by countless women. It's before they picked as their leader a man who has been accused of rape, under oath, by three separate women (one of whom was his own wive). That was before they picked as their nominee someone who is a personification of the seven deadly sins -- a guy so gluttonous, greedy, prideful, and lustful that he comes across as a heavy-handed caricature in an old morality play. And it's before they were coopted by him into completely trashing our nation's political traditions and standards of decorum an good taste.

I'm not sure that any party has ever had a moral collapse as dramatic and comical as the GOP, and I'm not sure any political movement has crumbled into self-caricature as spectacularly as the conservative movement.
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that's the funny thing about paragons.. there's really no such thing, and to think that there is such a person, an embodiment of "Christian values' funnier still. Especially from the left, it being mostly bereft of it.. at least christians, or 'the religious' give it a shot, and often fail.. but give a shot none the less..
 
PhilFish said:
that's the funny thing about paragons.. there's really no such thing, and to think that there is such a person, an embodiment of "Christian values' funnier still. Especially from the left, it being mostly bereft of it.. at least christians, or 'the religious' give it a shot, and often fail.. but give a shot none the less..
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What you call a "Christian value" depends entirely on what form of Christianity you're talking about. A "Christian value" could mean burning at the stake anyone who preaches a heretical version of Christianity. Or it could mean conquering other lands in order to force their people to worship your God. Or it could mean liberal values, like modesty, charity, restraint from violence, tolerance, etc.
 
Arkady said:
What you call a "Christian value" depends entirely on what form of Christianity you're talking about. A "Christian value" could mean burning at the stake anyone who preaches a heretical version of Christianity. Or it could mean conquering other lands in order to force their people to worship your God. Or it could mean liberal values, like modesty, charity, restraint from violence, tolerance, etc.
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quite right, could. like liberal values could mean modesty, charity, restraint from violence, tolerance, etc... or shibboleth, mayhaps..
 
Arkady said:
What you call a "Christian value" depends entirely on what form of Christianity you're talking about. A "Christian value" could mean burning at the stake anyone who preaches a heretical version of Christianity. Or it could mean conquering other lands in order to force their people to worship your God. Or it could mean liberal values, like modesty, charity, restraint from violence, tolerance, etc.
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Indeed. Hard to reconcile when you have, for example, a man like Barack Obama, who calls himself a Christian, but then summarily executes his own citizens without due process.

To say nothing of people like you, who see that, then enthusiastically vote for that man to lead our country.
 
PhilFish said:
hollywood... boom.. imploding in scandal.. apparently 'casting couch' shenanigans is 'new'..

nfl...bofff.. imploding on itself, as political posturing sans a compass implodes and caves to the ole' wallet..

politics.. well, that mess is, well, a mess..

hhmm...what other paragon of virtue and political preening will be next..

silicon valley? organic farmers?

dunno... time will tell..
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By all accounts and following the sign the DNC should fall next.
 
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imploding Medals surely next
 
PhilFish said:
Hollywood issues continue to mount..

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/ra...-fired-movie-sexual-harassment-claims-1053162

http://deadline.com/2017/10/house-o...spacey-scandal-netflix-season-six-1202197604/
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I posted about spacey yesterday. Shame I liked him too. I am enjoying the massive pearl clutching from the left over this stuff which has been par for the course forever. Particularly when they let people like Andy dick become celebrities by acting inappropriately and thinking it was funny.

I must say I agree with him though this is getting ridiculous when it's harassment to proposition someone particularly when you are not even in s position of authority over them. Unless it's repeated and ongoing and interferes with your ability to do a job aren't we all adult enough to merely say, thanks but no thanks? I have been asked out at work, have been propositioned at work by clients and their staff. And have never had a problem saying no. If anything the guys avoided me out of embarrassment of being rejected. I certainly never felt weird about it. A polite, no thanks I am in a relationship even if you are not is an easy no harm no foul response. Nothing but the absolute scummist jerkyest kinds of people continue after that.
 
PhilFish said:
hollywood... boom.. imploding in scandal.. apparently 'casting couch' shenanigans is 'new'..

nfl...bofff.. imploding on itself, as political posturing sans a compass implodes and caves to the ole' wallet..

politics.. well, that mess is, well, a mess..

hhmm...what other paragon of virtue and political preening will be next..

silicon valley? organic farmers?

dunno... time will tell..
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Silicon Valley (as in the Tech Industry at large)apparently already has it's fair share of political incorrectness. This, from an article circa 2013:

For women struggling to make inroads in the male-dominated tech industry, a few stunning situations this week have provided some extreme examples of what they're up against.

Sexist attitudes in startup culture got a major showcase on stage at TechCrunch Disrupt, one of the industry's leading conferences. In a separate incident online, the hateful, bigoted musings of a media company's chief tech officer got public attention that forced his firing — but he'd been tweeting sexist content for years. They are the latest flare-ups for a community struggling to get more women in its ranks.

On Sunday, after an all-night hackathon at TechCrunch Disrupt, Australian programmers presented Titstare. "Titstare is an app where you take photos of yourself staring at tits," Jethro Batts explained. He went on to say, "I think this is the breast hack ever."

The app was dreamed up during an overnight hackathon and presented to an audience of 500. The creators later said it was a parody.

"It's not. It's not a funny thing. It's not appropriate," says Richard Jordan, whose daughter participated in the hackathon and was in the audience. He says that presentation was actually just one of two disgusting displays.

Complete text: http://www.npr.org/sections/alltech...exism-in-the-tech-industry-takes-center-stage
 
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