Lefties jubilant over Canada's death panels

[marvin martian]

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_...has_death_panels_and_that_s_a_good_thing.html

And they proudly admit that a public single payer system = death panels. It's a good thing!

In Canada, with our single-payer health care system, Rasouli’s situation has a very public bottom line: Should taxpayers foot the bill for his family’s indefinite goodbye?
But American critics of Canadian health care will declare that merely asking this question is unacceptable, unethical, even unthinkable—and that it proves that the Canadian system gives doctors a dangerous incentive to kill off their patients as quickly as possible. They are wrong. The Hippocratic Oath’s promise to do no harm still applies. But they are also only wrong in part. When taxpayers provide only a finite number of acute care beds in public hospitals, a patient whose life has all but ended, but whose family insists on keeping her on life support, is occupying precious space that might otherwise house a patient whose best years are still ahead

In short, if you're sick, you need to give up your hospital bed like a good collectivist and let someone better than you have it...

 

[LeilaniMP]

The left condones the outright slaughter of 40,000,000+ who never even had a chance to live.

Why would they treat the elderly or the infirm any differently?

 

[Jen]

The left condones the outright slaughter of 40,000,000+ who never even had a chance to live.

Why would they treat the elderly or the infirm any differently?

Their plans for the elderly and infirm are much the same as they are for so many unborn babies......... get rid of them if they are unproductive. Yet............ they somehow feel that an older person who has worked hard for 40+ years is worth less than some 25 year old strapping fellow who chooses not to work. Their definition of "productive" seems to be on some kind of sliding scale.

 

[Charcat]

Well, most of the elderly don't have to file taxes anymore for their set incomes, so what good are they if they're not paying taxes? Might as well get rid of them so we'll have more for the "poor." Isn't that how it works?

 

[connieb]

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_...has_death_panels_and_that_s_a_good_thing.html

And they proudly admit that a public single payer system = death panels. It's a good thing!



In short, if you're sick, you need to give up your hospital bed like a good collectivist and let someone better than you have it...

It really is only a matter of time until eugenics is fully and widely accepted. How long until a woman is forced to get an abortion if her child has downs, or has some other major condition? How long until they determine the number of days a person can stay in a coma before they just decide to pull the plug? The reality is when you have finite group resources, the group decides who is worthy of those resources. I would personally rather have my worth decided by what is in my pocketbook - that have a bureaucrat decide it based on my age or overall health or some other factor. At least what is in my pocketbook is largely in my own control.

connie

 

[LeilaniMP]

It really is only a matter of time until eugenics is fully and widely accepted. How long until a woman is forced to get an abortion if her child has downs, or has some other major condition? How long until they determine the number of days a person can stay in a coma before they just decide to pull the plug? The reality is when you have finite group resources, the group decides who is worthy of those resources. I would personally rather have my worth decided by what is in my pocketbook - that have a bureaucrat decide it based on my age or overall health or some other factor. At least what is in my pocketbook is largely in my own control.

connie

The left upholds Margaret Sanger as if she's some kind of divine being. Planned Parenthood clinics were put predominantly in minority areas to further her grand eugenics plan.

 

[LeilaniMP]

Their plans for the elderly and infirm are much the same as they are for so many unborn babies......... get rid of them if they are unproductive. Yet............ they somehow feel that an older person who has worked hard for 40+ years is worth less than some 25 year old strapping fellow who chooses not to work. Their definition of "productive" seems to be on some kind of sliding scale.

Well, most of the elderly don't have to file taxes anymore for their set incomes, so what good are they if they're not paying taxes? Might as well get rid of them so we'll have more for the "poor." Isn't that how it works?

The elderly, the infirm and the innocents are considered "unproductive" and a "burden" to the same group of people who see absolutely nothing wrong with paying out billions of dollars in "entitlements" to a bunch of lazy butts who are gaming the system.

The only thing they seem to consider "productive" is the doling out of freebies to ensure the trolls continue to vote for them.

 

[Jen]

It really is only a matter of time until eugenics is fully and widely accepted. How long until a woman is forced to get an abortion if her child has downs, or has some other major condition? How long until they determine the number of days a person can stay in a coma before they just decide to pull the plug? The reality is when you have finite group resources, the group decides who is worthy of those resources. I would personally rather have my worth decided by what is in my pocketbook - that have a bureaucrat decide it based on my age or overall health or some other factor. At least what is in my pocketbook is largely in my own control.

connie

We are all going to get older (unless we die first) and the very people who consider the old people to be expendable will some day become "expendable" too. Personally, I think Nancy Pelosi has far exceeded that age of expendability since her face lifts are no longer helping, but that's just me.

 

[LeilaniMP]

We are all going to get older (unless we die first) and the very people who consider the old people to be expendable will some day become "expendable" too. Personally, I think Nancy Pelosi has far exceeded that age of expendability since her face lifts are no longer helping, but that's just me.

Speaking of Nancy...I don't think she gets Botox anymore...she's being injected with formaldehyde now.

 

[Wulk]

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_...has_death_panels_and_that_s_a_good_thing.html

And they proudly admit that a public single payer system = death panels. It's a good thing!



In short, if you're sick, you need to give up your hospital bed like a good collectivist and let someone better than you have it...

Ye Gods, do any of you actually read what is posted? You're blabbing away about something American critics of the Canadian health system allege as if it is fact.

 

[Charcat]

Speaking of Nancy...I don't think she gets Botox anymore...she's being injected with formaldehyde now.

I didn't think she had enough tissue left to inject anything......

 

[as seen on tv]

i dont think anyone is jubilant over this. as an insurance professional (i deal with term life insurance) i can tell you that every health insurer has "approved practices and procedures" which it will fund, and "experimental or unproven treatments" which it will not. This is as true of Aetna and Blue Cross as it is of Medicare or the Candian government.

No insurer - private sector or government - gives a sick person carte blanche to spend unlimited amounts on every procedure.

its a sad fact that 50% of a persons lifetime medical expenses will be incurred in the final 6 months of his or her life. And even sadder (and truer) that there is no crystal ball to determine which 6 months will be "the last".

most people want to die in dignity. grieving relatives deny them this right, especially if someone else is footing the bill. Hospitals have no incentive to deny care to terminally ill patients. those final 6 months are a huge revenue source for them.

a $92 dose of aspirin doesn't come cheap, you know. There's all that paperwork to be completed to document the purchase, inventory, dispensing, and resupply, to meet regulatory standards.

 

[LeilaniMP]

I didn't think she had enough tissue left to inject anything......

She reminds me of the embalmed cadavers when you go to a funeral home.

YIKES! SCARY!