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middleview

President
Supporting Member
That's entirely the point. Just because you wish it to be so doesn't mean that it transpired the way you said. Guilt by association isn't how it works. There will need to be proof that the rooms at the Willard and elsewhere were used as a command center for January 6th. People simply saying that that's what it was doesn't make it so. There will need to be proof that various violent factions went to the Willard, joined in meetings coordinated with Trump, shared plans, books additional rooms and so on. A bunch of disparate people renting rooms in Washington DC where a rally is taking place doesn't mean that those individuals conspired to overthrow the government. But then again we'll have to wait and see how that goes won't we
Bannon,
Eastman, Flynn, Stone, Guiliani...nothing to do with Trump, eh?

Just poker night at the Willard Hotel

 
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PhilFish

Administrator
Staff member
And in the meantime, let's not express opinions on the matter...right?

The mob would have gone to DC even if Trump hadn't invited them...
Somebody tell you not to express an opinion?

The facts of the matter are that he held a rally in DC on that day and the storming of the capital occurred. Unless somebody connects those as part and parcel to one giant plot to attack the capital, then I'm afraid he's not going to go to jail. And that's no matter how hard we may wish for that to happen.
 

PhilFish

Administrator
Staff member
Yup. Saw lots of social media posts calling for protests...none calling for overthrow of the government. Not so much for riots.
Yep yep. Exactly. Bunch of people got together to protest, nobody called for riots by BLM or antifa and lo and behold massive riots occurred. But it's okay, in whatever world you live in the only thing that the right, or trump, or both, could have been doing on January 6th is orchestrating the overthrow of our government together. Naturally, you'll be granting the latitude of an organic riot springing forth from a bunch of angry people on the one hand, but entirely discount that that could have occurred for another group of people. But I get it. Slave to your politic.

In any event, I hope Trump goes to jail. And it makes you feel real good.
 

PhilFish

Administrator
Staff member
Bannon,
Eastman, Flynn, Stone, Guiliani...nothing to do with Trump, eh?

Just poker night at the Willard Hotel

Oh I don't know whether they played poker or not. But we are all aware that they are affiliated in that they all are in the same political circles, and we're working together on an election and all that jazz. You didn't know that right? And that following an election they may have continued to talk about the outcome of the election and work together. Or is it in your mind that the only reason that they could have been at the Willard hotel and elsewhere was to conspire and overthrow the government? That's the only soul thing that they could have possibly have been doing? That despite the fact that Trump was holding a rally in Washington DC on that date. I understand, your politic tells you what to think. Anyway I hope he goes to jail. Certainly hope he doesn't get reelected. But my fear is that he will and it'll be thanks to the thought process of people like you. You know why? Because it has to be proven that's why in a court of law. As much as I want that to occur, I'm at least adult enough to acknowledge that it's a confluence of a bunch of disparate things and that it's the proving of an orchestrated plot that has to occur.
 

Bugsy McGurk

President
Somebody tell you not to express an opinion?

The facts of the matter are that he held a rally in DC on that day and the storming of the capital occurred. Unless somebody connects those as part and parcel to one giant plot to attack the capital, then I'm afraid he's not going to go to jail. And that's no matter how hard we may wish for that to happen.
Wow. You really think everything Trump did in connection with J6 was lawful?

Heaven help us.
 

PhilFish

Administrator
Staff member
Wow. You really think everything Trump did in connection with J6 was lawful?

Heaven help us.
No I don't think that everything Trump did in connection with January 6th was lawful. What's wrong with you? I said what I said, and nowhere that I say that I thought it was lawful. What I said was it still needs to be proven. And I think there will be a challenge there. Do try and keep up.
 

Bugsy McGurk

President
No I don't think that everything Trump did in connection with January 6th was lawful. What's wrong with you? I said what I said, and nowhere that I say that I thought it was lawful. What I said was it still needs to be proven. And I think there will be a challenge there. Do try and keep up.
Of course it needs to be proven. Which shouldn’t be difficult since we saw it all on live television. The story is simple - Trump organized the mob, the mob assembled, he and his minions then sent the mob to the Capitol to fight like hell to prevent the counting of electoral votes, they did just that, beating over 140 police officers with the staffs of their Trump banners, and smashed their way into the Capitol building/chambers to stop the counting of electoral votes, all while Trump watched on TV for three hours, ignoring pleas from his family and staffers to bring it to a halt.

Simple story. All undeniable. Lock him up.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Yep yep. Exactly. Bunch of people got together to protest, nobody called for riots by BLM or antifa and lo and behold massive riots occurred. But it's okay, in whatever world you live in the only thing that the right, or trump, or both, could have been doing on January 6th is orchestrating the overthrow of our government together. Naturally, you'll be granting the latitude of an organic riot springing forth from a bunch of angry people on the one hand, but entirely discount that that could have occurred for another group of people. But I get it. Slave to your politic.

In any event, I hope Trump goes to jail. And it makes you feel real good.
Did anyone tell the crowd of protesters to march on the police precinct and fight like hell? Trump did exactly that.

GIven that the capitol building was closed to the public that day...what did it mean to tell people only they could stop the steal?

Given Eastman's memo, Plan A was to get Pence to reject electors. Plan B was to prevent the completion of the count....and either get republican legislators to send "alternate" electors or to lower the count of accepted electors to where the election would go to the house.

We saw what happened in Minneapolis. The demonstration during the day was not violent...and a different mob showed up at night...

What happened in DC? A few hundred oath keepers and proud boys showed up at the barriers before Trump started talking. Oath Keepers met with Stone and Giuliani at the Willard Hotel before the riot....Coincidence?

A new video has surfaced showing former President Donald Trump's longtime adviser Roger Stone in Washington, D.C., on the morning of Jan. 6, flanked by members of the Oath Keepers militia group just hours before the deadly insurrection at the U.S. Capitol building.

In the video, which was obtained and reviewed by ABC News, Stone takes pictures and mingles with supporters outside a D.C. hotel as Oath Keepers hover around him, one wearing a baseball hat and military-style vest branded with the militia group's logo.

"So, hopefully we have this today, right?" one supporter asks Stone in the video, which was posted just after 10 a.m. on the morning of the rally. "We shall see," Stone replies.


Video surfaces showing Trump ally Roger Stone flanked by Oath Keepers on morning of Jan. 6 - ABC News
 

PhilFish

Administrator
Staff member
Of course it needs to be proven. Which shouldn’t be difficult since we saw it all on live television. The story is simple - Trump organized the mob, the mob assembled, he and his minions then sent the mob to the Capitol to fight like hell to prevent the counting of electoral votes, they did just that, beating over 140 police officers with the staffs of their Trump banners, and smashed their way into the Capitol building/chambers to stop the counting of electoral votes, all while Trump watched on TV for three hours, ignoring pleas from his family and staffers to bring it to a halt.

Simple story. All undeniable. Lock him up.
Yes. I think it is a little more than that, but again.party first
 

PhilFish

Administrator
Staff member
Did anyone tell the crowd of protesters to march on the police precinct and fight like hell? Trump did exactly that.

GIven that the capitol building was closed to the public that day...what did it mean to tell people only they could stop the steal?

Given Eastman's memo, Plan A was to get Pence to reject electors. Plan B was to prevent the completion of the count....and either get republican legislators to send "alternate" electors or to lower the count of accepted electors to where the election would go to the house.

We saw what happened in Minneapolis. The demonstration during the day was not violent...and a different mob showed up at night...

What happened in DC? A few hundred oath keepers and proud boys showed up at the barriers before Trump started talking. Oath Keepers met with Stone and Giuliani at the Willard Hotel before the riot....Coincidence?

A new video has surfaced showing former President Donald Trump's longtime adviser Roger Stone in Washington, D.C., on the morning of Jan. 6, flanked by members of the Oath Keepers militia group just hours before the deadly insurrection at the U.S. Capitol building.

In the video, which was obtained and reviewed by ABC News, Stone takes pictures and mingles with supporters outside a D.C. hotel as Oath Keepers hover around him, one wearing a baseball hat and military-style vest branded with the militia group's logo.

"So, hopefully we have this today, right?" one supporter asks Stone in the video, which was posted just after 10 a.m. on the morning of the rally. "We shall see," Stone replies.


Video surfaces showing Trump ally Roger Stone flanked by Oath Keepers on morning of Jan. 6 - ABC News
Then he'll be jailed, right? Easy peasy... but then again they rico'd the the thing..yes? The lowest bar ..
 

Bugsy McGurk

President
Did anyone tell the crowd of protesters to march on the police precinct and fight like hell? Trump did exactly that.

GIven that the capitol building was closed to the public that day...what did it mean to tell people only they could stop the steal?

Given Eastman's memo, Plan A was to get Pence to reject electors. Plan B was to prevent the completion of the count....and either get republican legislators to send "alternate" electors or to lower the count of accepted electors to where the election would go to the house.

We saw what happened in Minneapolis. The demonstration during the day was not violent...and a different mob showed up at night...

What happened in DC? A few hundred oath keepers and proud boys showed up at the barriers before Trump started talking. Oath Keepers met with Stone and Giuliani at the Willard Hotel before the riot....Coincidence?

A new video has surfaced showing former President Donald Trump's longtime adviser Roger Stone in Washington, D.C., on the morning of Jan. 6, flanked by members of the Oath Keepers militia group just hours before the deadly insurrection at the U.S. Capitol building.

In the video, which was obtained and reviewed by ABC News, Stone takes pictures and mingles with supporters outside a D.C. hotel as Oath Keepers hover around him, one wearing a baseball hat and military-style vest branded with the militia group's logo.

"So, hopefully we have this today, right?" one supporter asks Stone in the video, which was posted just after 10 a.m. on the morning of the rally. "We shall see," Stone replies.


Video surfaces showing Trump ally Roger Stone flanked by Oath Keepers on morning of Jan. 6 - ABC News
Smith has some Trump DM’s too…could be some real gold…

 

PhilFish

Administrator
Staff member
Whatever. Let me know if you can refute any of the facts I laid out, which we all saw on television.
I didn't deny any of those facts. What I said was you'll have to prove what transpired in the Willard room etc. You can't possibly know. Perhaps the prosecutor knows. We'll see
 

PhilFish

Administrator
Staff member
Whatever. Let me know if you can refute any of the facts I laid out, which we all saw on television.
See.. we're discussing this Willard room etc command center .... which newscast can you reference that affirms who and what transpired within...? After all we all saw it on television.....
 

Bugsy McGurk

President
I didn't deny any of those facts. What I said was you'll have to prove what transpired in the Willard room etc. You can't possibly know. Perhaps the prosecutor knows. We'll see
Nah, the details of what happened in the Willard war room would certainly be nice to know. Hopefully Smith has nailed that down. But it’s completely unnecessary to convict Trump. What we all saw on TV, as laid out in my post, is more than enough.
 
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